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Mine is boot looping with that option ticked loads first part of white bar then just boot loops round and round.?.
Done a it a few times on a 2012 rMBP for various reasons. It will semi-work but lack the proper current to do certain things that the battery is needed for regardless. So maybe not usable for anything "serious". If you are reluctant to buy a battery for some reason, borrow one for tests you may need? But it should boot.
My 2 cents. YMMV.
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I've had about 7 responses to my original question and (unless I've missed the point somehow) none have so much as mentioned the issue let alone any answer; there seems to be three types of updates; System/Firmware and Security with some overlap, you seem to have clearly confirmed what I already understood i.e. that an OCLP OS cannot get firmware updates so checking it seems to be of no value. I just went into Settings/updates and discovered that settings had altered; I certainly had them all on off except for the first one; my original query was about the last one but now it seems that these options are only for finger exercising - unless I had them set in safe mode and they somehow revert; anyway this is now bigger question than my original one and raises another question: should I just pay for Win11 and abandon this bizarre "Alice in Wonderland" Apple/OCLP combo?@iMac'd There are software updates (what you're used to seeing) and also firmware updates (lower level software that directly controls hardware). Neither should be auto-updated when running OCLP in case there is an incompatibility between the update and OCLP. Best to wait until the developers (or other users) have verified nothing breaks before installing an update.
Software updates: macOS 14.4.1, security updates, etc
Firmware updates: machine dependent and only available when running a supported OS for that machine
SilentKnight is a good tool that will tell you about the latest software updates and also tell you if your firmware isn't running the latest version.
SilentKnight, Skint, silnite, LockRattler, SystHist & Scrub
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Safest to leave the last option turned off as well and manually install those updates.
About background updates in macOS - Apple Support
Your Mac automatically installs Rapid Security Responses, security-configuration updates, and system data files in the background.
About the "Install system data files and security updates" checkbox in App Store prefs
Check your settings in the App Store System Preference Pane. By default Install macOS updates is not checked. If you checked it and now do not want the updates to install automatically, uncheck it. Do not uncheck “Install system data files and security updates”, this should always be enabled.
Just in case someone finds this interesting: I have noticed high CPU usage on my 6.1 machine with suggestd and other processes running in the background which are seemingly unrelated to what I need this Macbook for on a daily basis. CPU was usually active with 90%+ on average.
After having done a bit of research, I turned off/signed out of iCloud completely and accessing everything related through Safari if needed. CPU idles now at around 65% and runs way more smoother. Upgrade to 8GB Ram certainly did its part.
After having done a bit of research, I turned off/signed out of iCloud completely and accessing everything related through Safari if needed. CPU idles now at around 65% and runs way more smoother. Upgrade to 8GB Ram certainly did its part.
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I had it off but it seemed to get turned on by some unknown entity/programme; it's remained off for one day. Don't updates requiring patches automatically produce a notification from OCLP? (I left a device for hours after an update and there was none but this may be time related). I had the bottom setting on for months and never got any prompt; so what you are implying is that they will or may lead to instability and best to wait for them to be included in the "normal" updates?
That's what I've concluded but it's basically only guessing; it's more prudent regarding OCLP and less so for security but I suppose security is around 99% user carefulness - but then I don't know what protection has been used with these apparently near daily "updates".Safest to leave the last option turned off as well and manually install those updates.
About background updates in macOS - Apple Support
Your Mac automatically installs Rapid Security Responses, security-configuration updates, and system data files in the background.support.apple.com
About the "Install system data files and security updates" checkbox in App Store prefs
Check your settings in the App Store System Preference Pane. By default Install macOS updates is not checked. If you checked it and now do not want the updates to install automatically, uncheck it. Do not uncheck “Install system data files and security updates”, this should always be enabled.talk.tidbits.com
Apple seeded macOS 14.5 RC (23F79) to developers
MacBookPro11,2 OTA update to Sonoma 14.5 (23F79) without any issues using OCLP 1.5.0 (N)...
Imac27,13.2, OCLP 1.4.3--14.5 Sonoma, OTA, no problems but interestingly before restarting at OCLP's request, there was a message saying that OCLP 1.5 was the latest official release, but Dortania still says 1.4.3. Am I missing something, I will do the nightly.
When I was using OCLP a few months ago, I would check a box in settings, that doesn't seem to be there now, does anyone else with 13.2 check a box if using the standard Imac setup.
When I was using OCLP a few months ago, I would check a box in settings, that doesn't seem to be there now, does anyone else with 13.2 check a box if using the standard Imac setup.
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OTA update 14.5 RC went fine on my MBA 7,2 with OCLP 1.5n.
Updated rMBP10,1 2012 OTA from last beta to 14.5 RC, OCLP 1.5.0n, no issues detected yet.
Same here. Fans were running riot on the last beta here and now appear to stay quiet again. For now at least.
MacBook Pro mid 2014 success from last beta to RC, 1.16gb after reverting patches for me using OCLP 1.5 nightly .
Only issue I had is edit widgets crashed on opening first time works every time after that . Awesome work from the Devs. Still can’t fault this (old) machine for what it does.
Only issue I had is edit widgets crashed on opening first time works every time after that . Awesome work from the Devs. Still can’t fault this (old) machine for what it does.
"Fan riot" here with the last beta also. Likewise, too early to know if it's fixed.
Updated cMP 5,1 2012 OTA from 14.4.1 to 14.5 RC, OCLP 1.5.0n, no issues detected yet.
Awesome work from the Devs.
Awesome work from the Devs.
Were there any updates issue under item 2.
When using FaceTime on MacPro 6,1 14.4.1 and latest nightly can connect to or be called by 3rd parties no problem, but after initial connect and very brief video, video of the other caller/participant reverts to their non-video display screen the same as an audio call, with audio connection still working fine. Apologies if I missed any work-around in the thread..
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Yes, this is an explorative endeavor, and this is exactly hat you've signed up for by being here; if you feel unsure/unsafe/unhappy/overwhelmed, I can only recommend that you follow the path of a supported system and wish you well moving on!
Test MacPro5,1 nearly the same as described below but only 6core, newest OCLP 1.5.0n, macOS 14.5RC OTA with KDK 23F5074a without problems...
Thank you for the confirmation; computers and their software have such complex interactivity and counting on free advice from a few activists can't be counted on; I didn't think (i.e. had no idea) that running a supported OS in addition to an OCLP OS on the same SSD would be so (apparently) problematic; it seems very few attempt this - so I now appreciate that I was exploring the outer realms without the know how. That stated; apart from some oddity every few days both OS's seem to work. I'm getting back to risk taker (explorer) mode and might try Google Gemini's dubious advice about disabling OCLP with a simple command line prior to a reinstall of the supported OS.
I am glad you used the word 'dubious' for the 'advice' from Google Gemini(?). Most of us on this thread have found that, by carefully following the instructions and recommendations of the OCLP developers, more or less everything goes well. Nothing is perfect, but OCLP makes a good stab at it.
Apple released macOS 14.5 (Build 23F79 same as RC)
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