In my case, I have come back from an Macbook Pro 16" M1 to an Intel I9 16" 2019. I need to boot natively from windows sometines, and virtualize some OS, like Solaris. That is imposible with an Apple Silicon.
And geekbench is the same.
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And geekbench is the same.
I flipped a coin to determine that macOS 15 will continue to support Intel Macs. If my coin's prediction is correct, I'm going to use it to play the stock market.
Mac Pro´s Intel, 5900 USD the cheapest, were sold only two years ago.
Has anyone found a fix to the stuttering issue on HBO MAX on Safari. Still happens about 10 - 20% of the time, especially when watching fast action scenes but not exclusively. Hardware acceleration is enabled on the Mac and there's no increase in CPU/GPU usage during the stutters.
I share your optimism. I just built my latest hack and hope it has another macOS.
Has anybody here successfully clean installed Sonoma 14.5 final from a USB installer built with OCLP 1.5 final on to a 12" MacBook (NOT PRO and NOT AIR) 9,1 (with internal SSD erased using Disk Utility at OCLP 1.5 Recovery Disk screen)? I have tried numerous times and simply get the 29 minutes remaining screen that counts down to about 21 minutes and then the MB reboots to the same 29 minutes remaining screen and this repeats endlessly. I'm not a novice at this (see signature) but this has beaten me. I've used different USB sticks, redownloaded OCLP and Sonoma several times, reset the NVRAM and SMC, several times, but the result is always the same. BTW, Monterey final installs seamlessly from a standard non-OCLP USB installer without problems.
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The crucial factor for intel based machines for macOS 15 now seems to be presence or absence of T2 chip as various musings and rumors go. If possible at all (just wildly speculating here!) it would clearly be a Hercules task for OCLP to circumvent this security requirement. But I´m optimistic until proven otherwise ;-)
The crucial factor is simply that they can´t let behind people who spent that SO much money two years ago. That´s all.
I´m with you there - and the latest intel gear had T2 chips, I´d assume...
You can bet your ass...
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But that leaves the question: Even if OCLP could achieve that, why would it be worth it to update to MacOS15 after all?
Obviously LLMs need proper hardware in order to perform up to standard. That technology seems very demanding in regards.
Alex Ziskind did test LLMs on several hardware setups. Looks like those babies could ask for RAM up to 160GB or larger if one wants to use it properly.
We’ll find out soon enough.
Pray, why not? As far as I know, Macs running under OCLP, when well put together, run for weeks and months without faltering.
In my case I can certify that with OCLP the Macs have been running stably for years... ;-)
However @trifero was referring to computer security (hacker attacks etc.) and this is quite a dilemma...
For my part, however, I use Little Snitch (updated to the latest version), the Firewall, FileVault, I'm careful... and of course I don't frequent porn sites, free streaming, dark WEB, etc...
TL;DR version: It all depends on your equipment, and your experience level. I would suggest that when you're an IT pro- or experienced enthusiast you tend to regard your whole desktop life as a pro environment. My mantra is, "it's all just 1's and zeroes underneath".
The long-winded version: I run a supported intel 2018 Mac mini and an unsupported retina MBP 2012. The rMBP is far superior in graphics and disk so remains the daily driver. The supported MM is kept for emergencies and mission critical stuff and is perfect for that.
If I didn't have a supported mini standing by my stress levels would be higher. If it's dropped in macOS 15 then, and only then, will I start considering adding another Mac. At this point in history, Apple silicon has not, to me, proven its long term reliability. After all, the rMBP turns 12 years old this year. Apple silicon SOCs have only been around for 5 years.
On top of that, I want a mature AI-capable SOC on the next m/c. Since Apple describes M4 as the first environment "built for AI from the ground up", i.e. first gen, I'm thinking M6 would be good.
This is not for any AI software functionality (that I know of currently), btw. For me, as of right now, it's all about the hardware's closer physical proximity to, and integration of, memory and CPU, and for future-proofing.
IMO people tend to discount the fact that what allows AI (software) to work are new chip designs (hardware, their associated firmware, and, I assume, development of new compilers). Other than that, at the machine level, it's still all just mundane bit-switching zeroes and ones, but way faster.
I admit to over-simplifying this to make a point.
The long-winded version: I run a supported intel 2018 Mac mini and an unsupported retina MBP 2012. The rMBP is far superior in graphics and disk so remains the daily driver. The supported MM is kept for emergencies and mission critical stuff and is perfect for that.
If I didn't have a supported mini standing by my stress levels would be higher. If it's dropped in macOS 15 then, and only then, will I start considering adding another Mac. At this point in history, Apple silicon has not, to me, proven its long term reliability. After all, the rMBP turns 12 years old this year. Apple silicon SOCs have only been around for 5 years.
On top of that, I want a mature AI-capable SOC on the next m/c. Since Apple describes M4 as the first environment "built for AI from the ground up", i.e. first gen, I'm thinking M6 would be good.
This is not for any AI software functionality (that I know of currently), btw. For me, as of right now, it's all about the hardware's closer physical proximity to, and integration of, memory and CPU, and for future-proofing.
IMO people tend to discount the fact that what allows AI (software) to work are new chip designs (hardware, their associated firmware, and, I assume, development of new compilers). Other than that, at the machine level, it's still all just mundane bit-switching zeroes and ones, but way faster.
I admit to over-simplifying this to make a point.
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I have had that message a lot through every Mac Os X/macOS. With or without OC. Realy, don´t care.
Crazy since >10 years now, and counting. Several CAD engineering / office Macs running with OCLP (dosdude1 patches before that era).
I think he refers to possibly inherently decreased security of the system. I´d put it the other way round: Next to buying the currently supported machines (in turns of around 3-5 years) it´s the safest way to go on with old hardware, much better than if you stick with the latest supported macOS on it. (And yeah, Linux or even Win come to the rescue, but that does not run the same proven programs (eh, "Apps") that could be crucial to doing your work tasks).
My customers know it, love it and some even decided to go that way as well. No worries!