macOS 14 Sonoma on Unsupported Macs Thread

[alphascorp]

it was vanilla install via OCLP

Hi @deeveedee

What you meant was “clean install” instead of “vanilla”.

Sorry to play with words but if the installation uses OCLP it can't be vanilla because a vanilla installation is a clean installation of the latest system supported by a Mac without any modification of the system files.

I wanted to clarify this for novice readers who might learn the wrong terms, so as not to mislead the experienced users who would be helping them.

 

[deeveedee]

@alphascorp When you find the universally accepted definition of "vanilla" please let me know. The way that I interpreted the Reddit post, the key point of the Reddit post was not "vanilla" but was "no migrated apps."

EDIT: The Reddit post says "... no migrated apps. My suspicion is the dev tools and XCode parts I had were the root cause of it" which I interpreted to mean that an upgrade from a previous macOS version (keeping the installed apps) is the suspected cause of the problem. Thus my interpretation and recommendation to perform a "clean" installation.

 

[alphascorp]

When you find the universally accepted definition of "vanilla" please let me know.

I wasn't in any way questioning your interpretation of the reddit post, I just disagreed with the term "vanilla"

There may not be a universal definition but a simple search on macrumors
or the internet provides clear explanations of the term "vanilla"
insanelymac
tonymacx86

 

[flat4]

i prefer twist

 

[deeveedee]

If it helps, I love vanilla ice cream.

 

[alphascorp]

If it helps, I love vanilla ice cream.

Me too!!!

A quick AI search will give this answer:

A vanilla install of macOS refers to installing the operating system using the official macOS installation media without any modifications or additional software. This means the OS remains in its original form, untouched by customizations or updates applied by third parties.

For example, installing macOS using the vanilla method would involve booting from the official macOS installer and proceeding with the installation as Apple intended, without incorporating any unofficial patches or modifications.

 

[deeveedee]

@alphascorp In the hackintosh community, the term "vanilla" has almost as many interpretations as there are hackers. In the ice cream community, vanilla is a term used to describe a flavor that is derived naturally or artificially. Both communities argue about the definition of "vanilla." I will defer to you and trust that "vanilla" does have a definition accepted by a plurality in each community.

But we're way OT... I hope the OP attempts a fresh/clean/virgin installation of macOS (no app migration) and reports back.