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Loco Sock

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First time OCLP, long time mac user. Anyway, running an iMac 18,3 here, downloaded 1.0.0 and Sonoma 14 Release. Everything went smoothly. Have now completed the upgrade from Ventura and the only thing I can find at this time is when clicking on the menu bar at the top, all of the Apple dropdowns (Wifi, Bluetooth, Sound, AirDrop, Control Center) or futher info originate in the upper left of the screen. The one that does operate correctly (drop down from the menu point) is Time Machine.

Anyway, can't find anything that doesn't work, we'll be on the look out.

Tremendous job! Thank you!

Edit: Reboot took care of everything... thanks again.
 

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MacinMan

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First time OCLP, long time mac user. Anyway, running an iMac 18,3 here, downloaded 1.0.0 and Sonoma 14 Release. Everything went smoothly. Have now completed the upgrade from Ventura and the only thing I can find at this time is when clicking on the menu bar at the top, all of the Apple dropdowns (Wifi, Bluetooth, Sound, AirDrop, Control Center) or futher info originate in the upper left of the screen. The one that does operate correctly (drop down from the menu point) is Time Machine.

Anyway, can't find anything that doesn't work, we'll be on the look out.

Tremendous job! Thank you!
I'm using Sonoma on an iMac 17,1, and haven't noticed any erattic menu behavior. I just tried my menus over on the right side after reading your post.
 

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alexjohnson

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I need some help please:

I accidentally installed the 14.1 beta on my 9,2 and somehow bricked my device. Since then I can’t install neither Sonoma 14 (downgrade is not possible) or Ventura on any internal or external drive whatsoever.

The error seems to be always the same:

Mac update assistant couldn’t install a firmwire required. It doesn’t matter whether I try the internal SSD and external SSD, or I am connected to Wi-Fi or ethernet.

Did anyone else had the same issue or similar one and how did you solve it? Any advice is appreciated.
Ha! I did the same—and this is my second time doing this…

I have a Mac mini (Late 2012), i.e. 6,1. I applied the PB of 14.1 and like you it was fine till the post-install patch, at which point it would restart to an Apple logo. (I have verbose logging disabled.)

My route back is slow, but a kind of fun exercise in OS archaeology. My main Mac is an M1 and I have been unsuccessful in creating external installers for the mini: ideally I would go straight to Catalina but it's tough as the App Store won't allow me to download it. I tried a few hacks (e.g. macOS Catalina Patcher) which successfully appear to create an installer that would launch on my Mac mini, but then fail with the circle with a diagonal line. I also couldn't get Restore within Disk Utility to work.

So, it's bootstrapping time.

The last time I did this I erased the whole internal drive in the process but by coincidence my Time Capsule died recently and I was going to be using an external drive connected to this Mini as a Time Machine server and in the meantime have fewer backups than I would like so my process is:
  • Starting in Recovery mode. On my Mac that takes me to Mountain Lion 10.8. I erase an external drive and install to that. It's a blast-from-the-past but it won't connect to the App Store, and Safari is also functionally pretty useless.
  • Once that is up and running, shut down and connect to another Mac. Use Apple's own downloads to El Capitan 10.11, reason being a more modern macOS won't run on Mountain Lion. Copy that to the Downloads folder (or wherever) of the User folder on the external drive.
  • Launch the old Mac (using the external drive, as before), and upgrade that external drive to El Capitan. (Almost everyone sensible will be using a somewhat modern USB SSD etc. FWIW I have an old WD Passport I'm using that has FireWire 800 as well as USB and I found using FireWire would also always fail. It's possible this is an issue with my drive, but I just accepted the ~50% slower USB 2.0; I don't use it for anything else now than these installers so speed isn't really an issue.) This will now allow you to use the App Store, and you can get to Catalina 10.15. Again, you're installing this on the external startup drive.
  • Catalina supports APFS so start with the boot picker (holding option) and you want Disk Utility to partition the drive in your Mac. I say partition but you want to create a new Volume. (Disk Utility will suggest this.) That will be the least destructive option.
  • I found I then needed to do all the patches to Catalina—a straight download of the installer kept failing till I did.
  • Once you have the installer, you can install it to the new Volume you've just created. Now you will have a working bootable Catalina on your internal drive.
  • At some point—and sorry I forgot exactly where—Disk Utility can prompt you for a password of the other Volume(s) you have, that are the hard drive (SSD, etc.) you had before installing Sonoma 14.1. That Volume, at least for me, is visible in the sidebar of Disk Utility, but under File you need to select "View in Finder." You should now be able to see all your data, which is the main point of the exercise. (Hopefully this was not your daily driver Mac, but just in case…).
  • Because you have two Volumes the size will accommodate whatever is in them so you can copy everything you want over to the new Volume.
  • Your 14.1 is, I believe, not recoverable right now because OCLP will create another 14.0 installer, and the Mac won't let you "downgrade." So, you may have some settings to reset but once all that is done, using Disk Utility from a boot picker (option key) startup, you can delete the bad Volume once everything is copied over.
Personally I am using OCLP in part to mirror (loosely, manually—and by design after a very bad iCloud data loss issue with syncing in a PB a few years ago) an M1 Mac mini—both are media servers connected to TVs as their "day job" and I like them to be as identical as possible to each other—but also just to play with it so as a "hobbyist" I find the small challenge of bootstrapping from, say, Mountain Lion to be interesting. Pales next to the OCLP guys' efforts of course.
 
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rehkram

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Recommend running SilentKnight after installing Sonoma 14.0. It found 4 items needing updates on this rMBP10,1 which all downloaded & installed fine. Items were MRT, Safari Tech preview, and two XProtect objects.

In the end I just updated it in place using the OCLP-created installer USB rather than wiping the disk. As expected, the rMBP is fairly busy right now, CPU bound and a lot of writes to disk, fans going a bit. This always happens with any significant update so I'm just gonna leave it to do its thing and check it later.

Edit, 20 mins later: CPU and disk activity has dropped back to normal-ish, fans still going but not as fast. Looking good so far.
 
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amd is the best

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Installed Sonoma today on my 2011 12,2 iMac with Kepler card. All worked well aside from bluetooth. My keyboard and trackpad are both MIA for now but I'm sure this will be resolved before too long.

Also, spotify opens but is a black screen.
 
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Skyfallkavu

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Ha! I did the same—and this is my second time doing this…

I have a Mac mini (Late 2012), i.e. 6,1. I applied the PB of 14.1 and like you it was fine till the post-install patch, at which point it would restart to an Apple logo. (I have verbose logging disabled.)

My route back is slow, but a kind of fun exercise in OS archaeology. My main Mac is an M1 and I have been unsuccessful in creating external installers for the mini: ideally I would go straight to Catalina but it's tough as the App Store won't allow me to download it. I tried a few hacks (e.g. macOS Catalina Patcher) which successfully appear to create an installer that would launch on my Mac mini, but then fail with the circle with a diagonal line. I also couldn't get Restore within Disk Utility to work.

So, it's bootstrapping time.

The last time I did this I erased the whole internal drive in the process but by coincidence my Time Capsule died recently and I was going to be using an external drive connected to this Mini as a Time Machine server and in the meantime have fewer backups than I would like so my process is:
  • Starting in Recovery mode. On my Mac that takes me to Mountain Lion 10.8. I erase an external drive and install to that. It's a blast-from-the-past but it won't connect to the App Store, and Safari is also functionally pretty useless.
  • Once that is up and running, shut down and connect to another Mac. Use Apple's own downloads to El Capitan 10.11, reason being a more modern macOS won't run on Mountain Lion. Copy that to the Downloads folder (or wherever) of the User folder on the external drive.
  • Launch the old Mac (using the external drive, as before), and upgrade that external drive to El Capitan. (Almost everyone sensible will be using a somewhat modern USB SSD etc. FWIW I have an old WD Passport I'm using that has FireWire 800 as well as USB and I found using FireWire would also always fail. It's possible this is an issue with my drive, but I just accepted the ~50% slower USB 2.0; I don't use it for anything else now than these installers so speed isn't really an issue.) This will now allow you to use the App Store, and you can get to Catalina 10.15. Again, you're installing this on the external startup drive.
  • Catalina supports APFS so start with the boot picker (holding option) and you want Disk Utility to partition the drive in your Mac. I say partition but you want to create a new Volume. (Disk Utility will suggest this.) That will be the least destructive option.
  • I found I then needed to do all the patches to Catalina—a straight download of the installer kept failing till I did.
  • Once you have the installer, you can install it to the new Volume you've just created. Now you will have a working bootable Catalina on your internal drive.
  • At some point—and sorry I forgot exactly where—Disk Utility can prompt you for a password of the other Volume(s) you have, that are the hard drive (SSD, etc.) you had before installing Sonoma 14.1. That Volume, at least for me, is visible in the sidebar of Disk Utility, but under File you need to select "View in Finder." You should now be able to see all your data, which is the main point of the exercise. (Hopefully this was not your daily driver Mac, but just in case…).
  • Because you have two Volumes the size will accommodate whatever is in them so you can copy everything you want over to the new Volume.
  • Your 14.1 is, I believe, not recoverable right now because OCLP will create another 14.0 installer, and the Mac won't let you "downgrade." So, you may have some settings to reset but once all that is done, using Disk Utility from a boot picker (option key) startup, you can delete the bad Volume once everything is copied over.
Personally I am using OCLP in part to mirror (loosely, manually—and by design after a very bad iCloud data loss issue with syncing in a PB a few years ago) an M1 Mac mini—both are media servers connected to TVs as their "day job" and I like them to be as identical as possible to each other—but also just to play with it so as a "hobbyist" I find the small challenge of bootstrapping from, say, Mountain Lion to be interesting. Pales next to the OCLP guys' efforts of course.
This may help you: https://github.com/dortania/OpenCor...SHOOTING.md#stuck-on-boot-after-root-patching

I made the same mistake on macbookpro14,3. It seems things that require root patching should not be updated to 14.1 yet. The 14.1 KDK is not available and when attempting to use the 14.0 KDK, it results in a kernel panic. I needed AMD GCN patches and experienced the same thing. You can easily go back to the sealed snapshot, but patching won't work until we get the KDK.
 

MacinMan

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Recommend running SilentKnight after installing Sonoma 14.0. It found 4 items needing updates on this rMBP10,1 which all downloaded & installed fine. Items were MRT, Safari Tech preview, and two XProtect objects.

In the end I just updated it in place using the OCLP-created installer USB rather than wiping the disk. As expected, the rMBP is fairly busy right now, CPU bound and a lot of writes to disk, fans going a bit. This always happens with any significant update so I'm just gonna leave it to do its thing and check it later.

Edit, 20 mins later: CPU and disk activity has dropped back to normal-ish, fans still going but not as fast. Looking good so far.
Just ran Silent Knight after seeing your recommendation. Says no updates. So, looks like I'm good to go.
 
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MacinMan

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Question, I've gotten the videos to play on the lockscreen say landscapes, under water, etc. Is there a way to have them play on the desktop while working? or is it just an idle feature ? While working, the video is just a still image.
 

rehkram

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Question, I've gotten the videos to play on the lockscreen say landscapes, under water, etc. Is there a way to have them play on the desktop while working? or is it just an idle feature ? While working, the video is just a still image.
I don't think so.
 

luckyduke23

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Sonoma and OCLP 1.0.0 running smoothly on my machine (see signature). Even Parallels 18(!) with W10 VM running well.

Only annoying issue so far is the ugly default login wallpaper which cannot be changed with FileVault enabled. Any later solutions are highly welcome...
 
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smeagol152

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I don't have an Apple Watch, so I can't help in that regard. But what do you mean by ''hard freeze?'' Is it after doing something specific? Also, the widgets thing is known I'm pretty sure, I've had the exact same issue with them since Ventura.
About widgets issues, there is an opened thread in the discord server. I personally think that this issue is not going to be solved since this is happening in Ventura also and with specific Intel Models (Broadwell in my case) and lack of support since 0.5.0

Even in Github, i cannot find this issue tracked.
 

MacinMan

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So, since Somona is running well for me, and I decided to keep Monterey as my stable / supported install, and skip Ventrua completely after trying Somona, is there a reason to keep following it's progress with Open Core ? I mean is there a reason to consider going back at this point since Somona is pretty much running just as well as Ventura did.
 

MacinMan

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Being quoted can be painful sometimes, you took it well. ;)
Actually I could drive a lot of people here mad, I was very good at English so I could very well be like your English teacher at times correcting you. In this case, I just happened to get the word sounds confused in my head, so I picked the wrong one. Oh well, I took it well, as you said.
 
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Tockman

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Unfortunately, my experience with Sonoma gets bad, at least right now. The last phase of upgrade from 13.3 (after second restart) led to nothing - I see the progress meter but no movement on it. Waited for quite long time. Forcefully restarted Mac, started reinstallation, checked disk for errors, cleared PRAM - all no luck. Now OS is almost installed but fails to load - with no error messages. Just an empty progress scale. Is there reason to wipe Mackintosh HD and try again? Any advice is thankfully welcome.
 

chris1111

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Unfortunately, my experience with Sonoma gets bad, at least right now. The last phase of upgrade from 13.3 (after second restart) led to nothing - I see the progress meter but no movement on it. Waited for quite long tine. Forcefully restarted Mac, started reinstallation, checked disk for errors, cleared PRAM - all no luck. Now OS is almost installed but fail to load - with no error messages. Just an empty progress scale. Is there reason to wipe Mackintosh HD and try again? Any advice is thankfully welcome.
For an update or a macOS install you always had to add the -v in the boot args because this would allow you to see where it is stuck and post the image.
 
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