Yep, I suspected that GPU driver could be the culprit by looking at verbose mode login messages, but I didn't have the stock GPU to test as you did.
Good to know that this probably will be fixed in future betas, though.
See ya
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Yep, I suspected that GPU driver could be the culprit by looking at verbose mode login messages, but I didn't have the stock GPU to test as you did.
Good to know that this probably will be fixed in future betas, though.
See ya
Build 17A291m (Public Beta 1) on a MacBookAir2,1
With news that Devoloper Beta 3 released today, and Public Beta 2 being suggested as soon to follow, I reckoned I would document my experience with Public Beta 1 Build 17A291m, if only to warn off anybody else considering putting that beta-ish build on a low-powered MacBookAir.
A dosdude1 patched High Sierra
The first install probably worked. I just didn't realize at the time that one of the hangs I thought it was experiencing was actually just super-slowness, and I powerbutton-forced a shut down.
Laggy Initial Setup
I did a clean install the second time. Many screens in the initial first-boot setup sequence were laggy.
Keyboard Bug
The keyboard worked fine to type in the username and password when on that particular setup screen. But several screens later, after all the setup screens were completed and it was time to finally login, the keyboard wouldn't work to type inside the password text box. I jimmied it loose by clicking on the "Carriage Return" arrow, and
was able to click back in the text box and actually type stuff in.
More Lagging
Once logged in, just about every mouse click involved a lag - many of them very long lags - before action completion. Talking simple stuff like:
- Opening up System Profiler
- Clicking on the Spotlight icon
- Popping open a new Finder window
Wonky Mounting?
When I inserted a USB thumbdrive, I could see its presence in the USB section of the System Profiler, but Desktop/Sidebar would not show it mounted. Even /Volumes did not show it. Another time after another boot, it did appear in the Desktop/Sidebar.
Maybe Next Time
The app compatibility testing I hoped to do will have to wait for a future release. This build on this machine is unusable.
With news that Devoloper Beta 3 released today, and Public Beta 2 being suggested as soon to follow, I reckoned I would document my experience with Public Beta 1 Build 17A291m, if only to warn off anybody else considering putting that beta-ish build on a low-powered MacBookAir.
A dosdude1 patched High Sierra
The first install probably worked. I just didn't realize at the time that one of the hangs I thought it was experiencing was actually just super-slowness, and I powerbutton-forced a shut down.
Laggy Initial Setup
I did a clean install the second time. Many screens in the initial first-boot setup sequence were laggy.
Keyboard Bug
The keyboard worked fine to type in the username and password when on that particular setup screen. But several screens later, after all the setup screens were completed and it was time to finally login, the keyboard wouldn't work to type inside the password text box. I jimmied it loose by clicking on the "Carriage Return" arrow, and
was able to click back in the text box and actually type stuff in.
More Lagging
Once logged in, just about every mouse click involved a lag - many of them very long lags - before action completion. Talking simple stuff like:
- Opening up System Profiler
- Clicking on the Spotlight icon
- Popping open a new Finder window
Wonky Mounting?
When I inserted a USB thumbdrive, I could see its presence in the USB section of the System Profiler, but Desktop/Sidebar would not show it mounted. Even /Volumes did not show it. Another time after another boot, it did appear in the Desktop/Sidebar.
Maybe Next Time
The app compatibility testing I hoped to do will have to wait for a future release. This build on this machine is unusable.
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I was going to get a new SSD for my 2009 MBP and HS+APFS but I think I'll wait until the official release of HS.
You can download developer beta 3 from app store or download the update files by hand, convert it to installer installable package with productbuild command and install with installer command.
Yes, the software update currently is not functional on non supported machines. Only manual installation works (yet). You can download the update files (prehaps, is alredy done), with the productbuild command, you can convert it to isntallable package and install it with the installer command from terminal.
Yes, we need to wait until the 10.13 beta with full support the various GPUs supported by the cMP 5,1. If you have an old stock HD2500 XT that shipped with the 3,1, it will boot fine without entering safe mode.
Installed Beta 3 from Installer app with the Patcher on MacBook Pro 4,1 - works nicely (trackpad seems not to be recognized, although all working fine except two-finger right 'mouse' click).
The MBP 4,1 is my machine, currently running Beta Build [17A291m].
How did you actually update to Beta 3? Can you give step-by-step instructions, how you did it?
Highly appreciated!
The folks on this forum are great, as is the forum itself! You guys rock.
This time I started right from the Beta 3 Installer App, so no prior updating was needed. The installer and a link was mentioned in another post of this thread already (not to make too much advertising for it).
And a big thank you to dosdude1, Czo, foxlet and all the others!
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I am looking someone with DP1/DP2 with advanced terminal experience. I have an almost working patch to Software Update and i need someone to test, and send back all the logs after the update completes.
Why not. I worked myself back through the pages of this thread until I hit post #86, couldn't find the "Installer App" for the Beta 3, you mentioned.
Why don't you save us some nerves and just post the dirct link or at least the post number in this thread?
Thanks, man.
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Exactly how is this being done? I have all the files from the App store in root/Updates/...
- You need to modify the distribution file to remove machine check. (simply return true in InstallationCheck function, it's javascript)
- maybe you need to remove the file reference to the recovery update (find fileref tag at the end of the file, removing the whole line is ok)
- run productbuild to convert the multiple software update package to manual installable package with:
productbuild --distribution /Library/Updates/path/to/distribution.dist --package-path /Library/Updates/path/to/directory/contains/distribution /path/to/something/to/save/the/package.pkg
- install the package by hand:
sudo installer -pkg /path/to/something/to/save/the/package.pkg -target /
But! I'm almost finished the SU patch, so i can send it to you if you wan't to help me (i need more testers and the log files from the upgrade process)
Page 12 has a link posted to a french site, have a look there.
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Thank you for your swift and high quality reply. Very kind of you, I'd like to try your SU patcher as per your instructions.
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Thank you for your reply, that's exactly where I got Public Beta 1 from. Already downloaded several times from the latest posts there advertising Developer Beta 3 and Public Beta 2. Both downloads are Public Beta 1. Hm. But thanks anyways, man, I appreciate your effort, although a bit secretive.
Thank you, you give me hope! Unfortunately, the video card that I initially had with this system died several years ago.
My bad, you are right the version on the french forum is indeed Public Beta 1. I didn’t check the build number before.
I assume Dev Beta 3 build is (17A306f).
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The latest build is indeed 17A306f (SU ID 091-21704). Apple is still pushing out that build (as fetched via FetchMacOS).
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So the App Store informed me that Dev Beta 3 was available so I proceeded and it downloaded and installed, but I still have the same build number as previous, although System Report shows it as being installed. Curious.
I have located the files in Updates but there is no distribution file, have considered using product build but have never done this before and am quite perplexed.
I have located the files in Updates but there is no distribution file, have considered using product build but have never done this before and am quite perplexed.
I'd like to share my experience with that French site.
Up to July 9, I had 17A291m on the 08 Pro 3,1. On July 10 I saw this:
https://www.zoneactu.fr/2017/07/10/...h-sierra-10-13-developer-beta-3-liens-pkg-zip
so I got the 4.8GB (5,056,411 KB) app.zip file, made an installer flash drive with it and installed it only to discover it was still showing 17A291m. Weird. Then on July 12 I saw this:
https://www.zoneactu.fr/2017/07/12/...high-sierra-10-13-public-beta-2-liens-pkg-zip
Another hour, fresh download, new app.zip file has the same Kilobyte count as the previous one (5,056,411 KB). Why bother with it if it is the same version, the one that doesn't register as 306f on my machine, right? Wrong? Not sure.
Up to July 9, I had 17A291m on the 08 Pro 3,1. On July 10 I saw this:
https://www.zoneactu.fr/2017/07/10/...h-sierra-10-13-developer-beta-3-liens-pkg-zip
so I got the 4.8GB (5,056,411 KB) app.zip file, made an installer flash drive with it and installed it only to discover it was still showing 17A291m. Weird. Then on July 12 I saw this:
https://www.zoneactu.fr/2017/07/12/...high-sierra-10-13-public-beta-2-liens-pkg-zip
Another hour, fresh download, new app.zip file has the same Kilobyte count as the previous one (5,056,411 KB). Why bother with it if it is the same version, the one that doesn't register as 306f on my machine, right? Wrong? Not sure.