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macOS High Sierra (10.13) Unsupported Macs Thread

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dosdude1 said:
I don't believe the 10.13 final release is out yet. iOS 11 was released today, not macOS High Sierra, as far as I'm aware.
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Oh you've got that right, just updated my iPhone to iOS11. Thought 10.13 is out at the same time, guess it's not. Please let us know when it is. Thanks for your great work buddy :)
 
High Sierra Safari on a 2.0 GHz Core 2 Duo Unibody aluminum MacBook5,1 feels much, much faster than Lion 10.7.5 Safari on a 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo white MacBook4,1.

I did a few JavaScript benchmarks and after factoring in the the 20% CPU advantage the older MacBook4,1 has, it would appear that High Sierra Safari 11.0 is 75% to 100% faster than Lion 10.7.5 Safari 6.1.6.

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...s-high-sierra-decently.2068596/#post-25067629

So those afraid of slowdowns by going with High Sierra, don't be, as long as you have sufficient RAM and an SSD.
 
ks23 said:
Hello guys,

I now have installed High Sierra on my Mac mini 3,1 and I now have two questions:

1. Is it correct that when used APFS, there is no Recovery Partition? If yes, how I'm able to recover my Mac, if needed?
2. My WiFi isn't enabled. Is there any possibility to enable WiFi, see attachment.

Thanks in advance
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Please read all the instructions on @dosdude1's website carefully before doing anything.

Your WiFi card type is 0x14E4, 0x90 which is not compatible with Sierra and High Sierra. You need to replace it with a compatible one or use a USB WiFi dongle.
 
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joshfairweather said:
@EugW awesome thank you for all your help! Another question separate to macOS you might be able to help with..

Upon startup, sleep, and loading the "storage" tab in About My Mac, my laptop makes a noise as if it's whirring away underneath the trackpad for a few seconds. If this makes any sense it sounds like: vrr, vrr vrr vrr vrr, vrr vrr vrr vrr, vrr vrr vrr vrr, vrr.

It sounds possibly like the mechanical hard drive but it didn't do it when I bought it and suddenly adopted it one day? It's a short Vrr sound, followed by 3 longer, finished with another short? Sorry if that makes NO sense lol!
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vrr indeed! of course it made sense! this thread is anything but dull... i went round making vrr vrr, vrr all day. seriously, i hope someone figures it out. my suggestion? do the SMC thing, and hopefully, it may clear up whatever it is that's causing the problem. good luck. vrrrr.
 
@dosdude1 Question for you mate. I upgraded to HS on my Mac 5,1 but it seems to be running awfully slow. I do only have 4GB RAM and a 500GB HD which will be getting upgraded this weekend. My question is, can I re-run your Sierra patch tool to downgrade from HS and then re-install your HS patch on Monday with my new upgrades and then update to the full release from your patched public beta version?

I left my MacBook after a restart to come to work so maybe when I get back everything will have finished patching and installing and it will run fine. If not I'll roll back to Sierra for now..

@EugW did you have any issues with responsiveness from your Mac 5,1 on first boot from the HS upgrade? Hopefully when I get home after a restart and some hours sitting to do it's thing it will be alright but it felt SO slow compared to Sierra.. Maybe it's just because of the lack of up to date hardware..
 
joshfairweather said:
@dosdude1 Question for you mate. I upgraded to HS on my Mac 5,1 but it seems to be running awfully slow. I do only have 4GB RAM and a 500GB HD which will be getting upgraded this weekend. My question is, can I re-run your Sierra patch tool to downgrade from HS and then re-install your HS patch on Monday with my new upgrades and then update to the full release from your patched public beta version?

I left my MacBook after a restart to come to work so maybe when I get back everything will have finished patching and installing and it will run fine. If not I'll roll back to Sierra for now..

@EugW did you have any issues with responsiveness from your Mac 5,1 on first boot from the HS upgrade? Hopefully when I get home after a restart and some hours sitting to do it's thing it will be alright but it felt SO slow compared to Sierra.. Maybe it's just because of the lack of up to date hardware..
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Yes it’s probably indexing or something in combination with a spinning hard drive. My MacBook5,1 was briefly slow after first install but that didn’t last long. Now it’s very responsive. I’m very pleased. :) In fact, now on the forums as you know I’ve been recommending dosdude1’s patch and High Sierra to people with these old machines... as long as they have SSD and bare minimum 4 GB RAM... precisely because it’s so responsive.

So, the key is the SSD. Mine is a 7 year old SSD and very slow by 2017 standards but it’s still light years faster than any spinning laptop HD.

Get an SSD asap. Just remember though you’ll need Torx screwdrivers IIRC.
 
EugW said:
Yes it’s probably indexing or something in combination with a spinning hard drive. My MacBook5,1 was briefly slow after first install but that didn’t last long. Now it’s very responsive. I’m very pleased. :) In fact, now on the forums as you know I’ve been recommending dosdude1’s patch and High Sierra to people with these old machines... as long as they have SSD and bare minimum 4 GB RAM... precisely because it’s so responsive.

So, the key is the SSD. Mine is a 7 year old SSD and very slow by 2017 standards but it’s still light years faster than any spinning laptop HD.

Get an SSD asap. Just remember though you’ll need Torx screwdrivers IIRC.
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Awesome well should have an SSD in by the end of the weekend and double RAM. IF it's no better when I'm home I'll resort back to Sierra for the time being, but if it sounds normal then I'll just crack on with HS..
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coasterOneEightThree said:
I think it's Spotlight indexing, but as you say, it doesn't last long.
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Cool well hopefully when I get home from work it'll be all good :)
 
EugW said:
Yes it’s probably indexing or something in combination with a spinning hard drive. My MacBook5,1 was briefly slow after first install but that didn’t last long. Now it’s very responsive. I’m very pleased. :) In fact, now on the forums as you know I’ve been recommending dosdude1’s patch and High Sierra to people with these old machines... as long as they have SSD and bare minimum 4 GB RAM... precisely because it’s so responsive.

So, the key is the SSD. Mine is a 7 year old SSD and very slow by 2017 standards but it’s still light years faster than any spinning laptop HD.

Get an SSD asap. Just remember though you’ll need Torx screwdrivers IIRC.
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Exactly, SSD is the key, I tried on HDD but downgraded to Sierra, now on SSD and High Sierra is working perfect.

I installed RAM and SSD with tiny slot head screwdriver :)
 
I had my first kernel panic in months of running High Sierra on a MacPro 3,1 with HD 2600 XT graphics. It appeared to be in the kernel power management code.
 
coasterOneEightThree said:
According to this German forum a rollback of these files from Sierra would do the trick:

AMDRadeonX3000.kext
AMDRadeonX3000GLDriver.bundle
IOAccelerator2D.plugin
IOAcceleratorFamily2.kext

https://www.root86.com/topic/8518-erste-erfahrungen-macos-1013-high-sierra/

Would it be possible to include these kexts with the High Sierra Patcher Tool, exchanged on macOS Post Install?
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The full explanation is also on: https://www.root86.com/topic/8534-h...ks-with-high-sierra-example-of-real-macpro31/

It looks it needs also this app for the rollback : http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/fi...-pro-a-minimal-and-super-fast-kext-installer/

Lets hope dosdude1 may be able to include the rollback in his patcher. Many thanks in advance for him to examine this workaround for the AMD cards problem in HS !!!!
 
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mnsiw said:
I installed RAM and SSD with tiny slot head screwdriver :)
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Heh. Glad it worked, but that's not recommended. You can strip some of the screws that way. That said, I adjusted my MacBook5,1's trackpad with a tiny slot head screwdriver. I'm not sure where to get the tri-wing screwdrivers locally, and it's just an adjustment screw, not a super-tight Torx screw or something. Luckily for the MacBook5,1, the small Philips and Torx screwdrivers are easier to find and are pretty inexpensive.

I believe it is a Philips #00 and a Torx T6, but don't quote me on that.

EDIT:

I just ordered one of these 64-bit screwdriver kits from iFixit:

https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Tools/64-Bit-Driver-Kit/IF145-299-1
https://canada.ifixit.com/collections/tools/products/64-bit-driver-kit
 
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Somebody with a Radeon HD 5770 in a Mac Pro 3,1: Try downloading and installing these kexts using the included installer script. Just cd into the directory, and run "./install.sh" from Terminal (you'll need to do this in Safe Mode since your system won't boot otherwise). These are the kexts mentioned in the forum @Blackriton linked, hopefully they'll do the trick. If you've tried the previously posted kexts, please re-install your OS before installing these, don't want to introduce any other variables.
 
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Hi, i have installed HS 17A362a Beta version on MBP mid 2009. Please, tell me, can I update HS from AppStore, like GM, or final version? System runs on SSD with APFS. Thanks!

One more, when final version comes, can I use Terminal command to activate Trim? Will it work like El Capitan?
 
Getheur said:
Hi, i have installed HS 17A362a Beta version on MBP mid 2009. Please, tell me, can I update HS from AppStore, like GM, or final version? System runs on SSD with APFS. Thanks!

One more, when final version comes, can I use Terminal command to activate Trim? Will it work like El Capitan?
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You can activate TRIM now.

Terminal: sudo trimforce enable
 
dosdude1 said:
Somebody with a Radeon HD 5770 in a Mac Pro 3,1: Try downloading and installing these kexts using the included installer script. Just cd into the directory, and run "./install.sh" from Terminal (you'll need to do this in Safe Mode since your system won't boot otherwise). These are the kexts mentioned in the forum @Blackriton linked, hopefully they'll do the trick. If you've tried the previously posted kexts, please re-install your OS before installing these, don't want to introduce any other variables.
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Success, with HS GM candidate. Well, I actually did a manual copy, from a Sierra partition. But the idea is the same. Thanks!

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KvR said:
Success, with HS GM candidate. Well, I actually did a manual copy, from a Sierra partition. But the idea is the same. Thanks!

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So I assume we would want the patcher to detect the presence of these AMD video cards with broken driver support before selectively applying that patch (since downgrading the IOAccelerator2D.plugin and IOAcceleratorFamily2.kext plugins universally might introduce problems for users still on the current High Sierra drivers).
 
jhowarth said:
So I assume we would want the patcher to detect the presence of these AMD video cards with broken driver support before selectively applying that patch (since downgrading the IOAccelerator2D.plugin and IOAcceleratorFamily2.kext plugins universally might introduce problems for users still on the current High Sierra drivers).
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Yep, I'm working on the post-install tool, implementing just that. Should be done later today.
 
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Quick question for those who've put High Sierra on their old MBP's, particularly those on MBP5,5's.

Is the X & the phone under it at the top of https://www.apple.com/de/iphone-x/ corrupt for you in Safari or Firefox?

I would say its fine in Chrome but the animated X doesn't appear at all and the phone under it is a static image (where its animated in Safari)

First two images Safari
Screen Shot 2017-09-20 at 19.54.27.png Screen Shot 2017-09-20 at 19.54.34.png
Firefox:

Screen Shot 2017-09-20 at 19.57.29.png

The actual source video shows the corruption for me in Safari, in Preview and Quicktime ( I downloaded it from https://images.apple.com/media/us/i...0c34a926a7/overview/primary/hero/large_2x.mp4 ),

But video plays perfectly in both Chrome and VLC.

Other random videos I've checked work fine. Also the low & medium versions of that phone video work fine in Safari.

https://images.apple.com/media/us/i...0c34a926a7/overview/primary/hero/small_2x.mp4
https://images.apple.com/media/us/i...0c34a926a7/overview/primary/hero/small_2x.mp4
https://images.apple.com/media/us/i...c34a926a7/overview/primary/hero/medium_2x.mp4
https://images.apple.com/media/us/i...0c34a926a7/overview/primary/hero/large_2x.mp4
https://images.apple.com/media/us/i...0c34a926a7/overview/primary/hero/large_2x.mp4
 
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EugW said:
You can activate TRIM now.

Terminal: sudo trimforce enable
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Thanks. But what about updates via Mac AppStore?

One problem more. When I start Siri, it shows, but no listening me, like freeze. What is it?
 
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The X3000 series apply to the HD5770 (and perhaps HD5870) but the X4000 series apply to the AMD RX 460. Does this driver rollback function with the X4000 driver series? And if it does, does it support Metal as in Sierra? Could the patch be designed to give users options depending on which card is or will be installed?
Also, KvR, do you have a screenshot of the PCI selection in system report.
 
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nekton1 said:
The X3000 series apply to the HD5770 (and perhaps HD5870) but the X4000 series apply to the AMD RX 460. Does this driver rollback function with the X4000 driver series? And if it does, does it support Metal as in Sierra? Could the patch be designed to give users options depending on which card is or will be installed?
Also, KvR, do you have a screenshot of the PCI selection in system report.
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I'm sure the X4000 drivers from Sierra would work as well.
 
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