macOS High Sierra (10.13) Unsupported Macs Thread

[rosuna]

One thing I have noticed with the rollback to 10.12 kexts to enable the HD5770 and 5870 is that entering TM and scrolling back in time will sometimes display all red screens in the screen pile. This usually resolves to normal after a few seconds but not all and not always. It's a small glitch I can live with because I only use TM once in a blue moon to restore a file.
Coincidentally, today was a blue moon day.

It is perfect for me too... !!!!

 

[rosuna]

The better solution for new installs would be a button in the installer to select replacing those 4 files with the files from 10.12.

 

[tarasis]

I can confirm this bug.

Thank you for confirming it.

 

[EugW]

Thank you for confirming it.

BTW, for those who are not aware, this is what it is supposed to look like:

But this is what we get on the High Sierra upgraded MacBookPro5,5 and MacBook5,1:

https://www.apple.com/iphone-x/

 

[valorn]

Quick question for those who've put High Sierra on their old MBP's, particularly those on MBP5,5's.

Is the X & the phone under it at the top of https://www.apple.com/de/iphone-x/ corrupt for you in Safari or Firefox?

I would say its fine in Chrome but the animated X doesn't appear at all and the phone under it is a static image (where its animated in Safari)

First two images Safari
View attachment 719361 View attachment 719360
Firefox:

View attachment 719359

The actual source video shows the corruption for me in Safari, in Preview and Quicktime ( I downloaded it from https://images.apple.com/media/us/i...0c34a926a7/overview/primary/hero/large_2x.mp4 ),

But video plays perfectly in both Chrome and VLC.

Other random videos I've checked work fine. Also the low & medium versions of that phone video work fine in Safari.

https://images.apple.com/media/us/i...0c34a926a7/overview/primary/hero/small_2x.mp4
https://images.apple.com/media/us/i...0c34a926a7/overview/primary/hero/small_2x.mp4
https://images.apple.com/media/us/i...c34a926a7/overview/primary/hero/medium_2x.mp4
https://images.apple.com/media/us/i...0c34a926a7/overview/primary/hero/large_2x.mp4
https://images.apple.com/media/us/i...0c34a926a7/overview/primary/hero/large_2x.mp4

It happens exactly the same here. Macbook Pro 5,5 with HS GM.

 

[EugW]

It happens exactly the same here. Macbook Pro 5,5 with HS GM.

Anyone tried it with other patched Macs? I'm wondering if it's global for these unsupported Macs or if it's just specific to those of us with nVidia GeForce 9400M.

https://www.apple.com/iphone-x/

 

[valorn]

The Recovery partition installed with the patched High Sierra won't be bootable on unsupported machines as it is an APFS volume and EFI shell approach to booting those on unsupported supported machines hasn't been extended to handle the recovery partition volumes. You will have to launch Disk Utility from the USB installer created by the High Sierra Patch application. However, the 'Convert to APFS...' option will only be available for SSD drives in the initial release. You could try to use 'diskutil apfs convert' from the Terminal for Fusion or hard drives but the results from that have been mixed. Also, if you install a patched High Sierra on an unsupported machine and then decide to convert the boot volume to APFS, you have to repeat the post install patching to insure that the APFS patch is applied.

I have HS GM installed in Macbook Pro 5,5; 8 Gb RAM and 500 Gb SSD.

I haven't seen the "convert to APFS" option when I installed HS.

I cannot run Recovery Mode 10.13 pressing CMD+R. It shows a forbidden signal and it finally shuts the Mac down.

In Disk Utility from Patching Installation Flash Drive the "convert to APFS" is in gray.

Is there any way to get the conversion to APFS. Is it expectable on final release?


Thanks

 

[Stratus Fear]

Anyone tried it with other patched Macs? I'm wondering if it's global for these unsupported Macs or if it's just specific to those of us with nVidia GeForce 9400M.

https://www.apple.com/iphone-x/

It works properly on my iMac7,1 in every browser. Sounds like it might be a 9400M thing.

 

[EugW]

It works properly on my iMac7,1 in every browser. Sounds like it might be a 9400M thing.

Thanks but... Hmmm... It shouldn't work at all in Chrome. In Chrome all you would get is a static image of the phone. Or at least, that's what I get with my 2017 Macs in Chrome. It only displays the multi-colour X in Safari.

 

[Stratus Fear]

Thanks but... Hmmm... It shouldn't work at all in Chrome. In Chrome all you would get is a static image of the phone. Or at least, that's what I get with my 2017 Macs in Chrome. It only displays the multi-colour X in Safari.

Hmm. Not sure. It works in Chrome on this iMac, and also on my Late 2013 15" MBPr. You have an extension or setting synced via your Google account that may be interfering?

 

[valorn]

Thanks but... Hmmm... It shouldn't work at all in Chrome. In Chrome all you would get is a static image of the phone. Or at least, that's what I get with my 2017 Macs in Chrome. It only displays the multi-colour X in Safari.

If it was a problem with video card, why would this work with Chome and VLC and not with Safari or Firefox?
https://images.apple.com/media/us/i...0c34a926a7/overview/primary/hero/large_2x.mp4

 

[Stratus Fear]

If it was a problem with video card, why would this work with Chome and VLC and not with Safari or Firefox?
https://images.apple.com/media/us/i...0c34a926a7/overview/primary/hero/large_2x.mp4

It's possible that VLC doesn't use any GPU accelerated rendering or video decoding. Not sure as I haven't used it in quite some time.

 

[EugW]

Hmm. Not sure. It works in Chrome on this iMac, and also on my Late 2013 15" MBPr. You have an extension or setting synced via your Google account that may be interfering?

I'll try again when I get home. Maybe it was the OS I was running or something. Or maybe I'm just confused.

EDIT:

In the meantime I tried Chrome 44 on Windows 7, Safari on iOS 11, Firefox 9 on iOS 11, and Chrome 61 on iOS 11, and all of them give me only the static image, not the flowing multicolour X.

 

[valorn]

It's possible that VLC doesn't use any GPU accelerated rendering or video decoding. Not sure as I haven't used it in quite some time.

Maybe that's the point. I have checked hardware acceleration in VLC and then the video is behaving the same way that in Safari and Firefox.

So it could exist some bugs using some cards.

Mine is:
Modelo de chipset: NVIDIA GeForce 9400M
Tipo: GPU
Bus: PCI
VRAM (total): 256 MB
Fabricante: NVIDIA (0x10de)
ID del dispositivo: 0x0863
ID de la revisión: 0x00b1
Revisión de la ROM: 3427

 

[virk]

If I understand you correctly, that seems very complicated for little benefit. It seems easier to me just to deal with them separately.

Yes, that may be. But I would like to do it the way I described if that works So if somebody knows about that, kindly let me know!

In any case as soon as I have installed High Sierra on the supported Macbook I will make that test and post the result.

 

[retiarius]

BTW, for those who are not aware, this is what it is supposed to look like:

[....]

Just a technicality, but if your Safari window is sufficiently narrow (at least on a vanilla MacBook5,1 running HS displaying natively at 1280x800), the X will display correctly because the webpage source is using the file ending "medium_2x.mp4 (556x1188 pixels)", whereas wider windows use "large_2x.mp4 (648x1372 pix).

As noted elsewhere (forcing HW acceleration with VLC), for whatever reason the driver
can correctly accelerate the medium-res .mp4 but not the larger one. Still waiting to hear if either the drivers for unsupported MB(P)s work for this issue using Mavericks, or whether the supported polycarbonate MacBook6,1 with the same Nvidia 9400M can display correctly. If the supported white MacBook can't do such, it can be reported to Apple as a bug.

 

[nekton1]

It does seem that 17A362a is the GM; there was no second GM candidate today (Thursday) so unless Apple breaks the habit of a lifetime and releases a second GM candidate on a Friday, 17A362a is it.

 

[valorn]

I have HS GM installed in Macbook Pro 5,5; 8 Gb RAM and 500 Gb SSD.

I haven't seen the "convert to APFS" option when I installed HS.

I cannot run Recovery Mode 10.13 pressing CMD+R. It shows a forbidden signal and it finally shuts the Mac down.

In Disk Utility from Patching Installation Flash Drive the "convert to APFS" is in gray.

Is there any way to get the conversion to APFS. Is it expectable on final release?


Thanks

Can anybody help me?

 

[jhowarth]

It does seem that 17A362a is the GM; there was no second GM candidate today (Thursday) so unless Apple breaks the habit of a lifetime and releases a second GM candidate on a Friday, 17A362a is it.

Alternatively, if the changes are limited to installer tweaks, I think there have been cases were Apple has bumped the build number to a higher one that was only tested internally though.

 

[dosdude1]

Can anybody help me?

Unmount the drive, then Disk Utility should let you convert to APFS.

 

[valorn]

Unmount the drive, then Disk Utility should let you convert to APFS.

I’ve entered disk utility in flash installation.

Then I unmounted the SSD500 disk and I was able to convert it to APFS.

The problem is that I can’t restart using the SSD500 disk anymore.

I’ve tried to use the tool to set SSD500 as the booting partition but I get this message: “Running bless to place boot files failed”

Any ideas?

 

[dosdude1]

I’ve entered disk utility in flash installation.

Then I unmounted the SSD500 disk and I was able to convert it to APFS.

The problem is that I can’t restart using the SSD500 disk anymore.

I’ve tried to use the tool to set SSD500 as the booting partition but I get this message: “Running bless to place boot files failed”

Any ideas?

Did you run the APFS patch from the post-install tool?

 

[valorn]

Did you run the APFS patch from the post-install tool?

I didn’t know I had to do that but now I’ve done it and it worked. Thanks a lot for your incredible work and for helping so many people.

Just one last question: I had previously El Capitan and so I had a recovery partition.

Once I have APFS in my SSD and recovery partition is no longer usable, can I get that 4,46 GB space back to the primary partition?

 

[EugW]

I thought I'd pull out my backup clean 10.11 El Capitan install to test Safari 11 with the iPhone X page. Well it turns out I have backup clean installs for 10.4 all the way up to 10.10, and then 10.12, but no 10.11. It figures. So I found my copy of the El Capitan installer. It's apparently corrupted. Again, it figures. So, I redownloaded it, having to boot into 10.10 to do that, since I can't download it from Sierra or High Sierra.

Anyhow, to make a long story short, I finally booted into El Capitan and installed Safari 11 on my MacBookPro5,5.

View attachment 719468

2017 MacBook10,1 10.13 Safari 11.0 - Renders perfectly
2009 MacBookPro5,5 10.13 Safari 11.0 - Garbled like in your pic
2008 MacBook5,1 10.13 Safari 11.0 - Garbled like in your pic
2017 iMac18,3 10.12 Safari 10.1.2 - Renders perfectly
2008 MacBook4,1 10.7 Safari 6.1.6 - Doesn't display at all. Acts like your Chrome example with a static image.

It would be interesting to see the results from a MacBook6,1, since that is fully supported by High Sierra, but has the same nVidia 9400M GPU. In fact, it's almost identical to the MacBook5,1 spec-wise.

2009 MacBookPro5,5 10.10.4 Yosemite Safari 8.0.3 - I get nothing at all. It's a blank screen. I get the description if I scroll down though.
2009 MacBookPro5,5 10.11.6 El Capitan Safari 9.1.2 - Works fine. X displays perfectly.
2009 MacBookPro5,5 10.11.6 El Capitan Safari 11.0 - Works fine. X displays perfectly.

Also, the other poster was right about Chrome. On Chrome in 10.12 Sierra on iMac18,3, the page does work properly too.

Just a technicality, but if your Safari window is sufficiently narrow (at least on a vanilla MacBook5,1 running HS displaying natively at 1280x800), the X will display correctly because the webpage source is using the file ending "medium_2x.mp4 (556x1188 pixels)", whereas wider windows use "large_2x.mp4 (648x1372 pix).

As noted elsewhere (forcing HW acceleration with VLC), for whatever reason the driver
can correctly accelerate the medium-res .mp4 but not the larger one. Still waiting to hear if either the drivers for unsupported MB(P)s work for this issue using Mavericks, or whether the supported polycarbonate MacBook6,1 with the same Nvidia 9400M can display correctly. If the supported white MacBook can't do such, it can be reported to Apple as a bug.

This is correct. I get the garbled page on MacBook5,1 High Sierra with a wide Safari 11 window. But with a narrow browser window, it displays correctly, just smaller.

 

[dosdude1]

I just finished updating High Sierra Patcher, it now includes the necessary patches for some of the non-working AMD video cards (Radeon HD 5xxx, 6xxx, and 7xxx series) on the Mac Pro 3,1. Also made some minor changes to APFS booting to make it a little cleaner. Download from my webpage, as always.