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macOS High Sierra (10.13) Unsupported Macs Thread

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A4orce84 said:
Hey Guys,

I was curious for those that have upgraded to High Sierra, how has the PERFORMANCE been? I am currently on MacOS El Capitan still on my 2009 MacBook Pro (MacBookPro5,3).

Overall, even with El Capitan performance on the machine is pretty good (with 8GB of Memory + SSD), and I've been happy to squeeze a bit more life out of it. However, I don't want to upgrade if I'm going to have way worse / slower performance.

Any honest feedback in terms of performance and daily-use would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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I'm running High Sierra on a early 2009 iMac with 8GB and a standard HD and it is running fine.
Performance is on par with when I was running El Capitan.
 
dandoe said:
Thanks for the quick reply dosdude1!

Would it fix the problem if i just copy the related files from my working Sierra backup? (craigtheguru had a similar idea using unpatched HS files)

Which kext files would i need to copy from my working Sierra system to HS? (i also downloaded your 10.12AMDKexts.zip mentioned in a previous comment, are those the only files patched or are more files involved?)

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Thanks again,
Dan

P.S.: My other old/original ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT 256MB works fine with the AMD patch applied, btw. (no issues like the Radeon HD 6870 1GB or the Nvidia GTX680 2GB)
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No, you need to get those kexts from a High Sierra install. If you ran "install.sh" initially, the files should be backed up to ~/AMD_Backup.
 
Thanks guys! Do I need to do anything special with the upgrade, I plan on NOT doing a clean install, but still want to take advantage of APFS. Will it automatically convert my drive during the upgrade? Or is the only way to do this to format the drive and do a clean install?


Thanks,
Asif
 
A4orce84 said:
Thanks guys! Do I need to do anything special with the upgrade, I plan on NOT doing a clean install, but still want to take advantage of APFS. Will it automatically convert my drive during the upgrade? Or is the only way to do this to format the drive and do a clean install?


Thanks,
Asif
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You'll need to use Disk Utility in the High Sierra installer to convert your volume to APFS. Just do this after installing, and ensure you run the post-install tool to apply the APFS patch afterwards.
 
Hi dosdude1! As you seem to be only, I break any forum rules and ask with this post again.
Please forgive in advance.
Do you think that the red squares bug can be fixed at any time in the future? Or is it hopeless?
 
mcousin said:
Hi dosdude1! As you seem to be only, I break any forum rules and ask with this post again.
Please forgive in advance.
Do you think that the red squares bug can be fixed at any time in the future? Or is it hopeless?
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The only thing you can do to get rid of that issue is to change the graphics card to an nVidia one.
 
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dosdude1 said:
No, you need to get those kexts from a High Sierra install. If you ran "install.sh" initially, the files should be backed up to ~/AMD_Backup.
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I don't see a ~/AMD_Backup in my home dir and only did the patched HS Installer w/ the post install app after the initial install completed.

Sounds like I'll grab the plain vanilla drivers from another HS install (the ones listed by dandoe) and see how that goes.
 
Has anyone successfully installed High Sierra on a 17-inch, mid-2009 MacBook Pro (MacBookPro5,2)? I've confirmed that my wifi card is compatible and am thinking about pulling the trigger on the upgrade.
 
I can not create bootable usb in any way, can anyone give an idea of what is happening?
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roysterdoyster said:
1) macOS 10.13.1-Update 1 [build 17B25c]
Direct d/l link anyone?

2) Can these package files be wrapped into an installer for use with @dosdude1's patcher?
EmbeddedOSFirmware.pkg
FirmwareUpdate.pkg
FullBundleUpdate.pkg
macOSUpd10.13.1.RecoveryHDUpdate.pkg
macOSUpd10.13.1.pkg

Thanks guys.
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Just install the final release and update via the App Store. I wouldn't recommend updating, though, as 10.13.1 seems to have a bug where the App Store and Safari don't work.
 
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mcousin said:
Hi!

Systems works fine except for the red-square-bug.

I am using an AMD Radeon 7950 in a MacPro 3.1

Is there a way that this can be fixed in the future, dosdude1? Or is there no way no get rid of it. In that case I would go back to Sierra. :(
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Is your 7950 a Mac version or a flashed PC 7950 version? I ask because I have the latter and want to avoid the "Red Square Bug."
 
A4orce84 said:
Hey Guys,

I was curious for those that have upgraded to High Sierra, how has the PERFORMANCE been? I am currently on MacOS El Capitan still on my 2009 MacBook Pro (MacBookPro5,3).

Overall, even with El Capitan performance on the machine is pretty good (with 8GB of Memory + SSD), and I've been happy to squeeze a bit more life out of it. However, I don't want to upgrade if I'm going to have way worse / slower performance.

Any honest feedback in terms of performance and daily-use would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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My MacBook 5,2 is actually snappier on High Sierra with 4GB RAM (and an SSD; been using this since ElCap); my apps are hanging less, the UI animations are quicker than they used to be, everything launches quicker, and my fans are kicking in less. System also boots faster, logs in faster, and overall feels like a considerable improvement.

Granted I'm using APFS (and clover to boot), so I don't know if any performance gains are from that, but I have noticed considerable improvement personally none the less. Anecdotal, naturally, so YMMV.

MisutaaUrufu said:
I installed the post-patch tools and the patch updater, and ran the backlight patch, but it doesn't work. It actually works less than Sierra did, as apps cannot adjust the brightness either (with or without the patch). Any ideas as to why it's not responding to brightness at all?
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NVM on this. A rebuild of my kext cache solved it. Brightness now works just as well as ever.
 
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galoot said:
Has anyone successfully installed High Sierra on a 17-inch, mid-2009 MacBook Pro (MacBookPro5,2)? I've confirmed that my wifi card is compatible and am thinking about pulling the trigger on the upgrade.
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Yes, I've upgraded a Sierra installation on a MBP mid-2009 17" (macbookpro5,2) with a 512GB SSD to High Sierra. For reasons of backwards-compatibility (mac:Office 2011 etc. pp.) I've not switched from HFS+ to AFPS.

The machine's performance seems comparable to the one under Sierra, it's at least not slower. IMHO, the real disadvantages of an upgrade of the macbookpro5,2 to High Sierra at this point are:

  • Hibernate/sleep mode is currently not entirely reliable - the machine will go to sleep most of the time if you close its lid, but it will take ~40 seconds in hibernate mode 3 for that. And going to sleep and wake-up itself are not entirely reliable.
  • The wonderful gfxCardStatus tool for switching from discrete to integrated nVidia graphics does not work anymore under High Sierra. At least not on the mid-2009 machines. This leads to a situation where your macbookpro5,2 will always start with discrete graphics activated anytime you do a reboot and you'll actually have to logout (!) for switching to internal graphics (the preferable mode for most tasks as it's generating far less heat and (therefore) fan activity). Which is really annoying. I've contributed issue reports in both remaining GitHub repositories of gfxCardStatus (1,2).
  • There seems to be a bug or at least an issue with the iCloud login on macOS 10.13 High Sierra where you can neither logoff nor login with your Apple ID in the relevant dialogs, but will be confronted with a "This action could not be completed. Try again" error message. It's possible but in no way confirmed yet that this is in some way linked to a downgrade of iTunes 12.7 to 12.6.2.
If I had to decide again whether I should upgrade the macbookpro5,2 from Sierra to High Sierra, I'd now rather refrain from it at this point for the reasons above.

Yet I've still to acknowledge that dosdude1 has done a phenomenal job in providing High Sierra patcher - it's a really nice example of an individual extending a completely decently working machine's lifespan, which Apple had artificially reduced, again in a very sustainable manner.
 
Is there any benefit switching the harddrive over to the newer file system apfs or what ever its called? Is it worth it, or is it fine leaving the harddrive format as is when upgrading thru the patch?
 
Hackintosh HD said:
Yes, I've upgraded a Sierra installation on a MBP mid-2009 17" (macbookpro5,2) with a 512GB SSD to High Sierra. For reasons of backwards-compatibility (mac:Office 2011 etc. pp.) I've not switched from HFS+ to AFPS.

The machine's performance seems comparable to the one under Sierra, it's at least not slower. IMHO, the real disadvantages of an upgrade of the macbookpro5,2 to High Sierra at this point are:

  • Hibernate/sleep mode is currently not entirely reliable - the machine will go to sleep most of the time if you close its lid, but it will take ~40 seconds in hibernate mode 3 for that. And going to sleep and wake-up itself are not entirely reliable.
  • The wonderful gfxCardStatus tool for switching from discrete to integrated nVidia graphics does not work anymore under High Sierra. At least not on the mid-2009 machines. This leads to a situation where your macbookpro5,2 will always start with discrete graphics activated anytime you do a reboot and you'll actually have to logout (!) for switching to internal graphics (the preferable mode for most tasks as it's generating far less heat and (therefore) fan activity). Which is really annoying. I've contributed issue reports in both remaining GitHub repositories of gfxCardStatus (1,2).
  • There seems to be a bug or at least an issue with the iCloud login on macOS 10.13 High Sierra where you can neither logoff nor login with your Apple ID in the relevant dialogs, but will be confronted with a "This action could not be completed. Try again" error message. It's possible but in no way confirmed yet that this is in some way linked to a downgrade of iTunes 12.7 to 12.6.2.
If I had to decide again whether I should upgrade the macbookpro5,2 from Sierra to High Sierra, I'd now rather refrain from it at this point for the reasons above.

Yet I've still to acknowledge that dosdude1 has done a phenomenal job in providing High Sierra patcher - it's a really nice example of an individual extending a completely decently working machine's lifespan, which Apple had artificially reduced, again in a very sustainable manner.
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Thank you for the detailed response. Perhaps I'll wait for Apple to release a new 17-inch that supports 32GB of RAM. (Yes, I have a rich fantasy life.)
 
An High Sierra supplemental update appeared tonight in the App Store and was installed without an hitch on my MacPro 3,1 with Radeon 5770 but no change for the Preview+pdf red bug and I didn't test the sleep issue either.

I think that the appearance of this update (with no numbered change) probably shows that the 10.13.1 may also appear in the App Store without repatching the installation with dosdude1's patch.
 
Hackintosh HD said:
Yes, I've upgraded a Sierra installation on a MBP mid-2009 17" (macbookpro5,2) with a 512GB SSD to High Sierra. For reasons of backwards-compatibility (mac:Office 2011 etc. pp.) I've not switched from HFS+ to AFPS.

The machine's performance seems comparable to the one under Sierra, it's at least not slower. IMHO, the real disadvantages of an upgrade of the macbookpro5,2 to High Sierra at this point are:

  • Hibernate/sleep mode is currently not entirely reliable - the machine will go to sleep most of the time if you close its lid, but it will take ~40 seconds in hibernate mode 3 for that. And going to sleep and wake-up itself are not entirely reliable.
  • The wonderful gfxCardStatus tool for switching from discrete to integrated nVidia graphics does not work anymore under High Sierra. At least not on the mid-2009 machines. This leads to a situation where your macbookpro5,2 will always start with discrete graphics activated anytime you do a reboot and you'll actually have to logout (!) for switching to internal graphics (the preferable mode for most tasks as it's generating far less heat and (therefore) fan activity). Which is really annoying. I've contributed issue reports in both remaining GitHub repositories of gfxCardStatus (1,2).
  • There seems to be a bug or at least an issue with the iCloud login on macOS 10.13 High Sierra where you can neither logoff nor login with your Apple ID in the relevant dialogs, but will be confronted with a "This action could not be completed. Try again" error message. It's possible but in no way confirmed yet that this is in some way linked to a downgrade of iTunes 12.7 to 12.6.2.
If I had to decide again whether I should upgrade the macbookpro5,2 from Sierra to High Sierra, I'd now rather refrain from it at this point for the reasons above.

Yet I've still to acknowledge that dosdude1 has done a phenomenal job in providing High Sierra patcher - it's a really nice example of an individual extending a completely decently working machine's lifespan, which Apple had artificially reduced, again in a very sustainable manner.
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Just so you know, the dual-nVidia GPU MBPs will remember which GPU was selected across reboots, so you don't have to manually change it back every boot (this is consistent across 3 MacBookPro5,1s, and 2 MacBookPro5,2s that I've tested). Also, sleep for me, on all those machines, works perfectly fine, with no issues at all (takes ~30 seconds to enter sleep, which is perfectly normal).
 
dosdude1 said:
No, you need to get those kexts from a High Sierra install. If you ran "install.sh" initially, the files should be backed up to ~/AMD_Backup.
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Unfortunately, i previously ran "install.sh" twice, as there was a strange "invalid signature" error – so the backup files got overwritten! XD

So i did a High Sierra clean install on an old hdd, copied the mentioned files from that HS clean install to my current HS SSD, shut down the Mac, reinstalled the GTX680 i received yesterday and powered up the Mac Pro.

Yay!!! \o/

Everything works nice and smoothly now!
Boot screen with HS-wallpaper, smooth graphics/UI/video, no red graphic issues, no wake-from-sleep-issue, full Metal-support, etc..

SystemInformation-HS-NVIDIA-GTX680.jpg


dosdude1, you are a rockstar! :)
Thanks again for your great support! Also thanks a lot to everybody else for the helpful ideas, tips and hints!

Cheers,
Dan

P.S.: i have not applied the AFPS patch yet, still using HFS+ (as i finally got everything up and running and i don't see any benefit right now)
 
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