macOS High Sierra (10.13) Unsupported Macs Thread

[thekayman]

Just noticed that basic extensions such as Mail or Airdrop are missing from the Share button / menu? Any ideas?

 

[olrik77]

1. The card is a native Mac card (Apple Mac Pro nVidia GTX285 1GB Dual DVI CUDA) ...
2. ... therefor no need to flash it
3. No additional installs over and above the magnificent dosdude1's patches
4. It boots completely normally, and if I hold the option key I get the choice of boot disks.

Hello from France,

I ordered, too, a Nvidia XT680 (2GB) card (Apple edition) on Ebay.

By the way, did you install HS on an APFS formatted disk or simply on a HFS one ; Clean install or update from El Capitan or Sierra ?

Many thanks for your experience,

Cordialement,

PJN

 

[tim.ipsw]

Update: Further analysis has revealed sleep mode actually is working most of the time, but needs ~40 seconds (!) to get activated after the macbookpro5,2's lid is closed. For these ~40 seconds, the Sleep Indicator Light (SIL) will be on permanently, it will start pulsing afterwards.

This happens on an HFS+ installation upgraded from Sierra, but neither booting into safe mode nor booting a clean High Sierra install from an external drive has shown a different behaviour.

In some rare cases, sleep does not get activated at all, not even after the above-mentioned ~40 seconds.

If anybody has made similar or contrary observations on this sleep issue, I'd be more than happy if you could share them.

Same here, same model. It is verry annoying. Hope apple/ dosdude1 will fix it asap.
Thanks for the great work @dosdude1 ❤️

 

[CR_B]

Huray, it works.

I've a MacPro with ati graphics.
So sleep doesn't work ans red screen ... was very ... red

I bought a GTX680.
First doesn't work, web driver install was crashing .. and no way.

So I went back to the root, reinstall High Sierra, rerun patch and now ...

It works.

Many thanks to do dosdude for his works (I previously used sierra patcher)

My mac will live 2 more years

Do I recommend tu use apple's drivers, or nvidia's one ?
Performance are the same, or really not ?

 

[dosdude1]

Huray, it works.

I've a MacPro with ati graphics.
So sleep doesn't work ans red screen ... was very ... red

I bought a GTX680.
First doesn't work, web driver install was crashing .. and no way.

So I went back to the root, reinstall High Sierra, rerun patch and now ...

It works.

Many thanks to do dosdude for his works (I previously used sierra patcher)

My mac will live 2 more years

Do I recommend tu use apple's drivers, or nvidia's one ?
Performance are the same, or really not ?

I'd stay with the stock drivers... No need to use the Web Drivers with a GTX680.

 

[olrik77]

@dosdude1

Bonsoir,

Is it possible to install HS (via your HS patch) from El Capitan or is it necessary to do so from Sierra ?

And, by the way, with my Mac Pro 3,1 with a SSD and two "hybrid", is it preferable to install the OS on the SSD formatted in APFS or leave it in HFS (actually El capitan is running on the SSD and the two hybrid are for backup and data)

Many thanks for your great job,

Merci !

PJN

 

[dosdude1]

@dosdude1

Bonsoir,

Is it possible to install HS (via your HS patch) from El Capitan or is it necessary to do so from Sierra ?

And, by the way, with my Mac Pro 3,1 with a SSD and two "hybrid", is it preferable to install the OS on the SSD formatted in APFS or leave it in HFS (actually El capitan is running on the SSD and the two hybrid are for backup and data)

Many thanks for your great job,

Merci !

PJN

It's completely up to you, but keep note that if you use APFS, the boot process will look like this. Also you cannot enable FileVault or use the Recovery partition.

 

[MisutaaUrufu]

Did you check the patch updater? Both of those patches should be available from there.

I installed the post-patch tools and the patch updater, and ran the backlight patch, but it doesn't work. It actually works less than Sierra did, as apps cannot adjust the brightness either (with or without the patch). Any ideas as to why it's not responding to brightness at all?

On another note, the nightshift patch from the utility fixed my display settings issue. It seems the older nightshift patch was incompatible?

 

[Machist]

MacPro 3,1 Radeon HD7950

1. After all High Sierra seems to be stable, but sometimes I can see RED disorder (safari and every time in Preview when I open PDF).
2. Sleep problem "solved" for now -> newer sleep
3. Sometimes that red login window comes back? I don't know why? But that is easy to fix.
4. Share menu behavior is strange? I can't add new programs in share menu and example Mail is missing? I can't tick "share menu" in Internet accounts
5. Photos crash every time when it upload pictures from iCloud. Anyone has this same problem?

 

[chrome-dome]

Hello from France,

I ordered, too, a Nvidia XT680 (2GB) card (Apple edition) on Ebay.

By the way, did you install HS on an APFS formatted disk or simply on a HFS one ; Clean install or update from El Capitan or Sierra ?

Many thanks for your experience,

Cordialement,

PJN

I installed HS on an SSD HFS partition, as a clean install. I am also running Sierra on the other SSD partition, as I can't switch fully until Adobe (or Apple) sort out the Illustrator/InDesign issues.

 

[jhowarth]

It's completely up to you, but keep note that if you use APFS, the boot process will look like this. Also you cannot enable FileVault or use the Recovery partition.

Is the recovery partition available under the stock HFS+ install of HS as well? I thought that the Recovery Partition was always an APFS one under HS and that wasn't wired up yet? Or did you find a way to convert it back to HFS during the install process or re-purpose the APFS patches to boot it as an APFS volume?

 

[olrik77]

I installed HS on an SSD HFS partition, as a clean install. I am also running Sierra on the other SSD partition, as I can't switch fully until Adobe (or Apple) sort out the Illustrator/InDesign issues.

Many thanks for your return.

I do not use InDesign or Illustrator but Acrobat Pro and Photoshop and Lightroom : any issues with these application ?

Merci beaucoup,

PJN

 

[dosdude1]

Is the recovery partition available under the stock HFS+ install of HS as well? I thought that the Recovery Partition was always an APFS one under HS and that wasn't wired up yet? Or did you find a way to convert it back to HFS during the install process or re-purpose the APFS patches to boot it as an APFS volume?

The Recovery Partition is HFS if you installed to an HFS volume, and works no differently than a Sierra recovery partition.

 

[A4orce84]

Hey Guys,

I was curious for those that have upgraded to High Sierra, how has the PERFORMANCE been? I am currently on MacOS El Capitan still on my 2009 MacBook Pro (MacBookPro5,3).

Overall, even with El Capitan performance on the machine is pretty good (with 8GB of Memory + SSD), and I've been happy to squeeze a bit more life out of it. However, I don't want to upgrade if I'm going to have way worse / slower performance.

Any honest feedback in terms of performance and daily-use would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

 

[Computers 4 U LLC]

Hey Guys,

I was curious for those that have upgraded to High Sierra, how has the PERFORMANCE been? I am currently on MacOS El Capitan still on my 2009 MacBook Pro (MacBookPro5,3).

Overall, even with El Capitan performance on the machine is pretty good (with 8GB of Memory + SSD), and I've been happy to squeeze a bit more life out of it. However, I don't want to upgrade if I'm going to have way worse / slower performance.

Any honest feedback in terms of performance and daily-use would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

I have not noticed any performance gains, on supported macs or unsupported macs, I haven't noticed any performance gains using APFS either (supported & unsupported macs). Performance has not decreased though.

 

[dandoe]

Yeah, it should serve you well. And if I'm not mistaken, GTX 680 is the highest model that's supported natively by the system (built-in drivers), so you won't have to install nVidia's Web Driver, which is really not yet ready for High Sierra and could cause you problems.

I received my GTX680 today! (was having issues with my Radeon 6870)

After installing the GTX680, no red graphic issues anymore, and wake from sleeps works too now.

But now i have other problems with the new GTX680 (using the built-in drivers):

- boot takes way longer now
- flickering boot screen (name/pswd text input)
- very (!) slow/choppy/wobbling animations (macOS Finder, Safari, Videos)
- System Information->Graphics/Display does not recognise/show my first/main display (27" DELL @2560x1440), only the second display (22" LG @1680x1050), also no info about Metal-support.



After booting from my macOS Sierra-backup – no problems at all! (so the GTX680 works fine with Sierra)



I will try a High Sierra clean-install tomorrow.
If the clean-install of HS doesn't help, i will have to drop HS and return to Sierra.

UPDATE: Bluetooth is gone now too after my last reboot! Very strange.

 

[EugW]

Hey Guys,

I was curious for those that have upgraded to High Sierra, how has the PERFORMANCE been? I am currently on MacOS El Capitan still on my 2009 MacBook Pro (MacBookPro5,3).

Overall, even with El Capitan performance on the machine is pretty good (with 8GB of Memory + SSD), and I've been happy to squeeze a bit more life out of it. However, I don't want to upgrade if I'm going to have way worse / slower performance.

Any honest feedback in terms of performance and daily-use would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

With 8 GB of memory, I don't notice much difference with light to moderate usage.

However, I got the impression that with 4 GB of memory, High Sierra is a little more beachball prone than El Capitan was. I can't say about Sierra though, since I never tested Sierra.

So in other words, both El Capitan and High Sierra are limited by 4 GB, but perhaps High Sierra a little more so. But if you have 8 GB you're probably fine with either (unless you have very heavy needs).

 

[dosdude1]

I received my GTX680 today! (was having issues with my Radeon 6870)

After installing the GTX680, no red graphic issues anymore, and wake from sleeps works too now.

But now i have other problems with the new GTX680 (using the built-in drivers):

- boot takes way longer now
- flickering boot screen (name/pswd text input)
- very (!) slow/choppy/wobbling animations (macOS Finder, Safari, Videos)
- System Information->Graphics/Display does not recognise/show my first/main display (27" DELL @2560x1440), only the second display (22" LG @1680x1050), also no info about Metal-support.

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After booting from my macOS Sierra-backup – no problems at all! (so the GTX680 works fine with Sierra)

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I will try a High Sierra clean-install tomorrow.
If the clean-install of HS doesn't help, i will have to drop HS and return to Sierra.

UPDATE: Bluetooth is gone now too after my last reboot! Very strange.

You need to clean install... The GPU patch for AMD cards causes issues with other cards. I'm currently working on an implementation to uninstall patches, but until then I'd just recommend you re-install.

 

[jhowarth]

The Recovery Partition is HFS if you installed to an HFS volume, and works no differently than a Sierra recovery partition.

I didn't realize that was working since the Recovery Partition patch is still disabled in the default patch settings for MacPro 3,1 on HFS volumes. Perhaps it should be re-enabled in that case now that it works?

 

[dosdude1]

I didn't realize that was working since the Recovery Partition patch is still disabled in the default patch settings for MacPro 3,1 on HFS volumes. Perhaps it should be re-enabled in that case now that it works?

It's always enabled for HFS volumes, but not selected by default. The option is disabled if an APFS volume is selected.

 

[craigtheguru]

You need to clean install... The GPU patch for AMD cards causes issues with other cards. I'm currently working on an implementation to uninstall patches, but until then I'd just recommend you re-install.

I'll be in this (or similar) boat soon too. (Flakey 5770 and switching to a gtx 680.) Can I just re-run the High Sierra installer on my current 10.13.0 install and not apply the GPU patch or do I need to start from scratch? If I can install a clean OS on another volume and copy the right files back to my current install will that work?

 

[mcousin]

Hi!

Systems works fine except for the red-square-bug.

I am using an AMD Radeon 7950 in a MacPro 3.1

Is there a way that this can be fixed in the future, dosdude1? Or is there no way no get rid of it. In that case I would go back to Sierra.

 

[dandoe]

You need to clean install... The GPU patch for AMD cards causes issues with other cards. I'm currently working on an implementation to uninstall patches, but until then I'd just recommend you re-install.

Thanks for the quick reply dosdude1!

Would it fix the problem if i just copy the related files from my working Sierra backup? (craigtheguru had a similar idea using unpatched HS files)

Which kext files would i need to copy from my working Sierra system to HS? (i also downloaded your 10.12AMDKexts.zip mentioned in a previous comment, are those the only files patched or are more files involved?)

Thanks again,
Dan

P.S.: My other old/original ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT 256MB works fine with the AMD patch applied, btw. (no issues like the Radeon HD 6870 1GB or the Nvidia GTX680 2GB)

 

[Blackriton]

You need to clean install... The GPU patch for AMD cards causes issues with other cards. I'm currently working on an implementation to uninstall patches, but until then I'd just recommend you re-install.

I received today GeoForce GTX680 to replace my Radeon 5770. Before I installed it I will wait for your uninstall patches as I prefer not to clean re-install. Big thanks, Dosdude1 for your great work and help.

 

[thewebgal]

Found a big part of the problem with my early 2009 macPro issues. Apparently my recovery partition got corrupted by a High Sierra beta I tried briefly in June I think. I had restored the drive, but that did not scrub the bad recovery Partition. And since its near impossible now to find a copy of the original Install Sierra package now that official High Sierra has been released, I could not fix/restore the recovery partition. But last night, on a hunch, I checked a developers' site and found a hidden page with Sierra tools and a link to the Sierra install package, and that was all I needed to repair the partition on my OWC SSD as well as on the original Macintosh HD HDD (which had an El Capitan recovery partition) I had pulled last spring when I installed the SSD. So now, the recovery partition is fixed and has Sierra on both drives, both drives have been Time Machine restored to 10.12.6 of Monday afternoon, and after work today, I should be able to do the upgrade to HS!

(My OWC SSD is their 480GB Mercury Electra 6G 2.5-inch 7mm SATA 6.0Gb/s SSD and not the Aura
SSD.)