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MacPro: ATI X1900 XT Price Drop?!!?
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jansmith said:
I get the funny feeling Apple is toying with us
Mister Mr. said:
Yes, if it IS cancellable it will ask you to select the item(s) you want to cancel before it actually does cancel them.
I had to call apple the other day regarding an order I placed a long time ago and hasn't arrived yet. After sorting that out I also asked what's up with my Mac Pro order and if I can't cancel it online does that mean it's ready?
Response I got, you can technically cancel it at anytime UNLESS it's literally on the shipping dock. So not having the ability to cancel online doesn't mean it's being built, about to ship, or anything like that.
I haven't been able to cancel my order for about a week and still no shipment notice (ordered aug 7th)
I just want my bloody Mac Pro! I have the nice shiny 23" ACD sitting there waiting to be used..
MrJynx
Response I got, you can technically cancel it at anytime UNLESS it's literally on the shipping dock. So not having the ability to cancel online doesn't mean it's being built, about to ship, or anything like that.
I haven't been able to cancel my order for about a week and still no shipment notice
(ordered aug 7th)I just want my bloody Mac Pro! I have the nice shiny 23" ACD sitting there waiting to be used..
MrJynx
Daspeed said:
Aug 7th, before 3pm. (I was waiting
)The thing is, expect the early orders to get 'locked-down' in seemingly random order for the first day or so when it starts. But locking down the order does mean they are preparing to build the system... but it doesn't mean that they have all the parts yet. The CC charge is the proof that they are getting ready to send a machine your way.
Mrjynx said:
That makes sense. It is just strange everyones order flashing from uncancellable to cancellable back and forth like this. It must be someone at Apple who frequents these forums and loves to hear us scream
I hear ya! I have two 30" ACD's here behind my laptop on my desk. My Powerbook can only run one of them ... but at very bad resolution. Only serves to increase my anticipation.
Mister Mr. said:
Six? boy your optomistic. With Quad-Core due by year end that's really only 3...
If you're worried about obsolecense, cancel your order. You'll always be obsolete and it's only going to get worse over the next two years.
AMD and Intel are in a street fight to the death and they're going to be cramming as many cores as they can as fast as they can in an effort to win your heart and mind.
Never mind that people don't really like the idea of buying a computer in January that is no longer available in March and the March computer is half the price per core of the January computer.
MovieCutter said:
C'mon, let's be realistic here. Any true FPS afficianado doesn't want an xBox, it's just not the same playing shooter games on a console.
greenstork said:
Any true FPS afficianado isn't buying a Mac either, much less a $3000 workstation. They're custom building their own machines with Core2Duo Extremes and SLI 7950's.
BenRoethig said:
Thanks for clearing things up, I had forgotten that computers can be for one thing, and one thing only. Nobody could possibly want a Mac Pro for video editing and games, those people simply don't exist.
BenRoethig said:
I've heard this argument before and I get it, really, but some people use a Mac for all of their productivity, design, and video related tasks and also play games, gasp. I, for one, don't want two computer sitting on my desk and I frankly don't know anyone that does.
To get the same performance I need for Apple applications, I'd need a Mac Pro and to get a decent performance for gaming, comparable to the "slow FB-DIMMs" of the Mac Pro, I'd probably have to spend in the neighborhood of $1500-2000 for a good PC. A low end Mac Pro, plus a moderately priced PC is way way more money than just buying a nicely equipped Mac Pro.
Your perception is that only consumers play games, not professionals, and you're wrong.
greenstork said:
I see your point, but you're coming off more as a gamer and less as a professional. That being said, I spent 5 hours playing Oblivion on my Mac Pro w/ 30" ACD last night and it was sweet, my only complaint is that I can't encode in OSX at the same time. I have no problems with professionals playing games, but if you're buying a workstation for any more than 40% gaming and 60% production, it's a waste of money.
greenstork said:
No, my perceptions is that consumers shouldn't need a to buy a professional workstation to be able to play them.
BenRoethig said:
You must be new to computers...
People with tons of money have been buying huge video cards that carry a price premium of $100s of dollars to have the biggest, baddest thing on the market for 30 - 45 days more than the next guy because they want to part with their money faster.
There have been peopple buying multiprocessor systems for years now to play games.
This is nothing new.
A workstation is a marketing term only.
I've historically only been able to afford bottom-of-the-line Macs. My machines have always been a little slow from day one, and it has always been extremely frustrating. I'm now able to afford much more, so even though what I got is far more than what I need, the extra peace of mind from knowing that it won't be slow right out of the box and will likely serve my needs quite well for several years to come is well worth the extra cost. I wasn't going to settle for less than the best this time. It's an excessive expenditure of money, perhaps, but it's far from being a waste, unless you think all expenses that don't lead directly to income or basic sustenance are a waste. Yeah, it's ridiculous that I got a quad 3GHz Mac Pro w/ Radeon x1900 xt to replace my single 1.25GHz G4 when I won't do a single thing with it that will let it realize its full potential. For all that money I spent beyond what was necessary, all I'm really getting in return is... excessive irrational joy. Okay, I'll take that deal.MovieCutter said:
jfkfc said:
One of these days I'm going to figure out how to become a marketing guru like Intel and ATI have become to make people think that their computer becomes obsolete and worthless within moments so that they have to keep buying my stuff.
Crack dealers sure have it easy.
I'm not acting like Apple didn't warn me that it was going to take this long, but it's still just kind of annoying that we have to wait this long for this half-year-old videocard to find its way into our Mac Pros or onto our doorsteps
My Mac Pro isn't obsolete yet since at least Apple hasn't announced a revision. My point is that it could at least be growing old while I'm using the damned thing.Trekkie said:
It's Apple's fault there isn't a more suitable gaming machine than the Mac Pro, so go complain to them about people "misusing" computers they put their own money down for. Otherwise, please be quiet.MovieCutter said:
jfkfc said:
Um, yeah, no thanks. I like expressing my opinion. That being said, I don't care how you spend your damn money, but when there are other options out there just for playing games, it's simply foolish to buy a Mac Pro JUST for playing game, especially when there are better options out there for gaming. If you're working and playing games, that's another story.
Trekkie said:
New to computers? I got my first Mac around '92. The PPC Mac market isn't representative of the computer market as a whole. Go to Alienware, Falcon Northwest, or any other gaming machine maker and figure out how how many of them use Xeon machines for gaming or any other task. I'll save you some time and tell you right now: zero. Nobody else even thinks about it. That's what intel developed Conroe for.
Workstation is not just a marketing term it is a server derived desktop intended for use in high end professional tasks.
BenRoethig said:
I was on my 5th or 6th computer by then
Back in my day we had flame wars the good old fashioned way, one person at a time dialed into a BBS replying to messages and then logging off and waiting for the next person to login and respond! hah
I feel so old, and i'm only 35.
Actually I take that back, flame wars didn't start until things got a bit more real-time with TBBS and MajorBBS multi line BBS. People had time to think vs. react
yeppers, and what is even better is I was at the heart of the flame war in the late 80s that got Trade Wars 2002 started.
If you can believe it, what started that was one programmer swearing how hard it was to convert WWIV 3.21d in Turbo Pascal 3.0 to Turbo Pascal 5.0 and how it took him months to do it.
So Gary Martin said 'eh, can't be that hard' and it took him a day to convert it, and then he thought what the heck and started growing the game.
I was one of the 7 team members of the Klingon DSF that won the first TW2002 tournament. heh.
Ahh, nostalgia, the world looks so much better through rose tinted glasses.
If you can believe it, what started that was one programmer swearing how hard it was to convert WWIV 3.21d in Turbo Pascal 3.0 to Turbo Pascal 5.0 and how it took him months to do it.
So Gary Martin said 'eh, can't be that hard' and it took him a day to convert it, and then he thought what the heck and started growing the game.
I was one of the 7 team members of the Klingon DSF that won the first TW2002 tournament. heh.
Ahh, nostalgia, the world looks so much better through rose tinted glasses.