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alexffff

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alexffff said:
BTW I have problem with enabling pcie 2.0 x16 on slot 2.
I used this guide https://docs.google.com/document/d/...NU7m-mDBLAWWJipyM/edit#heading=h.v4727xejik0y
and made a mistake, i ran fast.sh with 00:00 , 00:01 , 00:05 , 00:09 parameters.
two of them updated.

I had no internet connection on mp that time, so I had a mistake with this action.

then I connected to internet and downloaded pci ids.
00:00 is host bridge memory controllet hub
00:01 - 00:09 are PCI bridge ... PCIE Express port 1 - 9

my gpu is 02:00
and my nvme adapter is 01:00
01:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Samsung .......

When I ran fast.sh 01:00 I get output: Final PCIe 1.0 x4
System report also tells that slot 2 is x4 with 2.5GT/s link speed.

How can I enable PCIE 2.0 x16 on my slot 2?
please help

my ssd speed is 800mb/s now, I want to achieve 1500mb/s
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alexffff said:
used this guide https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...4-ssds-5900-mb-s.1936311/page-9#post-25247002
and got message
Before: PCIe 1.0 x4
After: PCIe 2.0 x4

then I edited script to display current settings only
rebooted mac pro and get Before: PCIe 1.0 x4 again....
is it possible to make it permanent?
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crjackson2134 said:
Would you please take this to a different, more appropriate thread. This thread IS NOT about NVME booting on cMP31. It’s about BootROM 144.0.0.0.0.
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tsialex said:
More important to anything, it's not about MP3,1 at all…

P.S.:

If anyone can't read between the lines, I'm totally against MP3,1 APFS/NVMe injection with the current tools and I'm not going to make it easy for people brick logic boards.
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tsialex said:
Since I got a DM asking why I'm against MP3,1 APFS/NVMe injection, it's all about the risk/benefit.

MP3,1 never got the equivalent of 138.0.0.0.0 BootROM, that makes the default state of PCIe 16x slots 2.0 instead of the default 1.0. So, even if you get APFS/NVMe correctly working, you still have PCIe 1.0 x4 speeds until you reconfigure the PCIe 16x slot to PCIe 2.0 using pciutils for the session - it's not permanent. Every time you reboot, you have to reconfigure.

All the risk of bricking that I already explained multiple times, for ~700MB/s.
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okey, discussion is here now: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mac-pro-3-1-nvme-support-upgrade-guide-questions.2194878/
 
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accessvirus

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Hi,
I want to buy 2TB nvme bootable ssd. What is your cheapest ssd suggest? Thanks.
For mac pro 5.1 (upgraded from 4.1) high sierra 10.13.4
 
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flowrider said:
^^^^I've had build (18G95) since 8/27/19. But product ID is 061-06464.

Lou
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Re-issued September 3:

macOS 10.14.6 Update (ComboUpdate 3,93GB) 061-06467
macOS 10.14.6 Update (DeltaUpdate 2,61GB) 061-06471
macOS Mojave 10.14.6 Supplemental Update (1,47GB) 061-06469
This update contains bug fixes that improve the stability, performance, and security of your Mac, and is recommended for all users.



This update:

  • Resolves an issue that may cause certain Mac notebooks to shut down during sleep
  • Fixes an issue that may degrade performance when working with very large files
  • Addresses an issue that may prevent Pages, Keynote, Numbers, iMovie, and GarageBand from updating


For more detailed information about this update, please visit: https://support.apple.com/kb/HT209149

For detailed information about the security content of this update, please visit: https://support.apple.com/kb/HT201222
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tsialex said:
Re-issued September 3:

macOS 10.14.6 Update (ComboUpdate 3,93GB) 061-06467
macOS 10.14.6 Update (DeltaUpdate 2,61GB) 061-06471
macOS Mojave 10.14.6 Supplemental Update (1,47GB) 061-06469
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I wonder if this last Supplemental Update (Version 3?) is for a special or new Mac/MacBook?
 
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tsialex said:
Re-issued September 3:

macOS 10.14.6 Update (ComboUpdate 3,93GB) 061-06467
macOS 10.14.6 Update (DeltaUpdate 2,61GB) 061-06471
macOS Mojave 10.14.6 Supplemental Update (1,47GB) 061-06469
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remind me how we download the full combo version?
 
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TheStork said:
I wonder if this last Supplemental Update (Version 3?) is for a special or new Mac/MacBook?
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No, all Mojave supported Macs including MP5,1 that installed the deprecated 18G87 build - see the board-id highlighted in the screenshot:

Screen Shot 2019-09-04 at 19.34.49.png


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critter13 said:
remind me how we download the full combo version?
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AFAIK, Apple did not yet updated the Support site for the 18G95 build, still link to 18G87 061-06464 from August 26.

This is the link for the deprecated version support article for the 10.14.6 ComboUpdate: https://support.apple.com/kb/DL2010
 
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tsialex said:
No, all Mojave supported Macs including MP5,1 that installed the deprecated 18G87 build - see the board-id highlighted in the screenshot:

View attachment 856110

[doublepost=1567636894][/doublepost]

AFAIK, Apple did not yet updated the Support site for the 18G95 build, still link to 18G87 061-06464 from August 26.

This is the link for the deprecated version support article for the 10.14.6 ComboUpdate: https://support.apple.com/kb/DL2010
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Have there been any updates to the nvme/apfs ffs components? Apfs seems to be a work in progress and updates for catalina seem to be part of the puzzle.

While 144 gives us a great slate to work from, support for catalina might need more? Your thoughts??
 
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handheldgames said:
Have there been any updates to the nvme/apfs ffs components? Apfs seems to be a work in progress and updates for catalina seem to be part of the puzzle.

While 144 gives us a great slate to work from, support for catalina might need more? Your thoughts??
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Catalina works fine with 144.0.0.0.0, but Apple has been updating APFS EFI modules at least for some Macs, I only track in detail my own Macs. NVMe EFI module seems mature for my Macs and it's not being updated for some time.

Besides Catalina difficult install, it's a hassle for now even with VMs until VMware Fusion gets 10.15 support, it runs good with MP5,1.
 
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Finally had time to check EFI firmwares, for non BridgeOS Macs, released with the updated 18G95.

Only iMac19,1 had an update, back to the 220.x.x.x.x series instead of the 1022.0.0.0.0 (first clang 11.0.0 firmware). The updated iMac19,1 EFI is 220.270.93.0.0 from the previous 220.270.76.0.0 (read about #3758).

Btw, 1022.0.0.0.0 is still a newer release, by a day, than 220.270.93.0.0

Code: 
Apple ROM Version
  BIOS ID:      IM191.88Z.F000.B00.1906161737
  Model:        IM191
  EFI Version:  220.270.93.0.0
  Built by:     root@osx347
  Date:         Sun Jun 16 17:37:19 2019
  Revision:     220.270.93 (B&I)
  ROM Version:  F000_B00
  Build Type:   Official Build, RELEASE
  Compiler:     Apple LLVM version 10.0.1 (clang-1001.0.37.14)
  UUID:         525DA3F2-9345-3490-92B0-6E5F1BE91E20
  UUID:         B5BE2217-8DC8-39BE-BB0D-B372035F8E90

Mac:EFI version:
IM13,1287.0.0.0.0
IM14,1139.0.0.0.0
IM14,2139.0.0.0.0
IM14,3139.0.0.0.0
IM14,4199.0.0.0.0
IM15,1230.0.0.0.0
IM16,1229.0.0.0.0
IM16,2229.0.0.0.0
IM17,1170.0.0.0.0
IM18,1175.0.0.0.0
IM18,3175.0.0.0.0
IM19,1220.270.93.0.0
MB10,1178.0.0.0.0
MB8,1183.0.0.0.0
MB9,1184.0.0.0.0
MBA5,1259.0.0.0.0
MBA6,1117.0.0.0.0
MBA7,1188.0.0.0.0
MBP10,1257.0.0.0.0
MBP10,2280.0.0.0.0
MBP11,1156.0.0.0.0
MBP11,2156.0.0.0.0
MBP11,4194.0.0.0.0
MBP12,1186.0.0.0.0
MBP13,1236.0.0.0.0
MBP13,2259.71.1.0.0
MBP13,3259.71.1.0.0
MBP14,1198.0.0.0.0
MBP14,2198.71.1.0.0
MBP14,3198.71.1.0.0
MBP9,1228.0.0.0.0
MM6,1280.0.0.0.0
MM7,1244.0.0.0.0
MP6,1132.0.0.0.0
 
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Catalina DP7 and 18G95 have the exactly same EFI firmwares for non BridgeOS Macs:

Mac:EFI version:
IM13,1287.0.0.0.0
IM14,1139.0.0.0.0
IM14,2139.0.0.0.0
IM14,3139.0.0.0.0
IM14,4199.0.0.0.0
IM15,1230.0.0.0.0
IM16,1229.0.0.0.0
IM16,2229.0.0.0.0
IM17,1170.0.0.0.0
IM18,1175.0.0.0.0
IM18,3175.0.0.0.0
IM19,1220.270.93.0.0
MB10,1178.0.0.0.0
MB8,1183.0.0.0.0
MB9,1184.0.0.0.0
MBA5,1259.0.0.0.0
MBA6,1117.0.0.0.0
MBA7,1188.0.0.0.0
MBP10,1257.0.0.0.0
MBP10,2280.0.0.0.0
MBP11,1156.0.0.0.0
MBP11,2156.0.0.0.0
MBP11,4194.0.0.0.0
MBP12,1186.0.0.0.0
MBP13,1236.0.0.0.0
MBP13,2259.71.1.0.0
MBP13,3259.71.1.0.0
MBP14,1198.0.0.0.0
MBP14,2198.71.1.0.0
MBP14,3198.71.1.0.0
MBP9,1228.0.0.0.0
MM6,1280.0.0.0.0
MM7,1244.0.0.0.0
MP6,1132.0.0.0.0

Apple seems to scraped iMac19,1 1022.0.0.0.0 firmware for now.
 
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Interesting, my MBP9,2 has 229.0.0.0.0
Does not show up on that list. I got that rom installing one of the Catalina betas..
 
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lxmeta said:
Interesting, my MBP9,2 has 229.0.0.0.0
Does not show up on that list. I got that rom installing one of the Catalina betas..
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Should be 228.0.0.0.0, since it uses the same firmware as MBP9,1, no?
 
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