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bookemdano

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Thanks, have done that about a dozen times with Apple support>
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I’m bothered that the boot rom version is still 138.0.0.0.0

Why are you bothered that you have 138.0.0.0.0? That is the most current boot rom version released. 140.0.0.0.0 is still in beta.
 

bookemdano

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Really? That's pathetic on their part.
Thanks. I’ve been seeing other versions. Even Apple support couldn’t verify the 138.0.0.0.0 as the latest.

That just goes to show how limited Apple support is.

The old versions had the format:

MP51.008X.B00

Starting with Mojave 10.14.0 the format is:

1XY.0.0.0.0

10.14.0 had 138.0.0.0.0 for MacPro5,1
10.14.1 will likely have 140.0.0.0.0
 

spiteyourface

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  1. Disconnect any 4K or DP1.2 display. MP5,1 efiflasher don't support 4K screens or DP1.2. You can't update to MP51.0089.B00 with a 4K/DP1.2 screen connected to your Mac EFI card. It's a old bug that

To clarify, does this just mean that you have to disconnect 4k monitors during the flash process, or that 4k monitors will continue to not be supported after the whole Mojave install process is complete?

I don't believe I can perform this process anyway since the only other card I have available is a Radeon HD 5870.
 

tsialex

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To clarify, does this just mean that you have to disconnect 4k monitors during the flash process, or that 4k monitors will continue to not be supported after the whole Mojave install process is complete?

I don't believe I can perform this process anyway since the only other card I have available is a Radeon HD 5870.
Only when flashing. After you got BootROM version 138.0.0.0.0 you can reconnect your 4K monitor.

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  1. Disconnect any 4K or DP1.2 display. You can't update to MP51.0089.B00 with a 4K/DP1.2 screen connected to your Mac EFI card. It's a old bug that Apple corrected with MP6,1 and "forgot" to correct with the MP5,1. MP5,1 efiflasher don't support 4K screens or DP1.2, you can reconnect after you update your BootROM."
 
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MisterBiro

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Is it possible to use the GT120 along with an RX580 to display the boot screens under Mojave?

I know the GT120 isn't a metal supported card, but does this configuration work?

I tried it and found that my MP wouldn't boot (or at least nothing ever displayed on screen and I neglected to try RDP)
 

fatespawn

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Is it possible to use the GT120 along with an RX580 to display the boot screens under Mojave?

I know the GT120 isn't a metal supported card, but does this configuration work?

I tried it and found that my MP wouldn't boot (or at least nothing ever displayed on screen and I neglected to try RDP)

I've read on other threads that sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Sounds like yours won't work. I'm going to try the same thing with mine when my RX580 shows up next week. What 580 do you have?
 
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wingyiulam

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I accidentally upgraded my firmware to 138.0.0.0 without installing mp51.0089.b00, is there anyway I can downgrade the firmware to 0089? My cmp doesn’t boot without efi card while installing Mojave, regular boot to high Sierra is fine without efi card. Thank you!

I skipped the firmware update to mp51.0089.b00 (I didn't even remember what was the firmware version), and I updated the latest firmware to 138.0.0.0 for installing Mojave. Am I screwed? What can I do? Is there anyway I can rollback to the old rom?
 
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tsialex

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I skipped the firmware update to mp51.0089.b00, and I updated to firmware to 138.0.0.0 for installing Mojave. Am I screwed? What can I do?

Apple recommends installing MP51.0089.B00 before upgrading to the Mojave BootROM. I only think you have a problem if you had MP51.0087.B00 before upgrading to 138.0.0.0.0. If so, it on the safe side to take a look on your Mac Pro BootROM dump.

What exact problem you are having? What GPU you have?
 

wingyiulam

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I have GT120, GTX 690 & GTX 1080ti. I am for sure I didn't update to the latest firmware before I installing 138.0.0.0 because I didn't get a chance to find this post, and I use GT120 flash the old firmware to 138.0.0.0.

The Mac Pro keep asking for the Metal card, so I switch to 1080ti for installing Mojave (1080ti should have metal capability or I always need an AMD card in order to boot or install Mojave?). the CMP successfully restart, but it freezes to dead on a black screen. I also try this method on two difference kind of SSD Samsung 970 pro NVME and ACHI SSD, I got the same result.

I also try the Mac Pro 2009-2010 Firmware Tool to restore the firmware to default 5,1 firmware, I got an error MSG "This program requires Internet access. Please connect your Mac Pro to the Internet and try again." whenever I open the APP.

btw, my CMP high Sierra has no problem boot up from 138.0.0.0.
 
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tsialex

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1080TI needs NVIDIA webdrivers that don't exist yet for Mojave. You have to downgrade to High Sierra until NVIDIA releases the Mojave web drivers.

Did you tried with GTX 690? I have an eVGA GTX 680 Mac Edition and works fine with Apple NVIDIA native drivers (only works for Kepler NVIDIA GPUs).
 

wingyiulam

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1080TI needs NVIDIA webdrivers that don't exist yet for Mojave. You have to downgrade to High Sierra until NVIDIA releases the Mojave web drivers.

Did you tried with GTX 690? I have an eVGA GTX 680 Mac Edition and works fine with Apple NVIDIA native drivers (only works for Kepler NVIDIA GPUs).

I didn't try it yet, I will give it a try.

Do you think that I need to downgrade the firmware mp51.0089.b00 or earlier in order to move on? I totally missed one of the big step where you stated in your post.

NOTE:
my Mac Pro is SIP Disabled

I try the Mac Pro 2009-2010 Firmware Tool to restore the firmware to default 5,1 firmware, I got an error MSG "This program requires Internet access. Please connect your Mac Pro to the Internet and try again." whenever I open the APP.
 

tsialex

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I didn't try it yet, I will give it a try.

Do you think that I need to downgrade the firmware mp51.0089.b00 or earlier in order to move on? I totally missed one of the big step where you stated in your post.

I try the Mac Pro 2009-2010 Firmware Tool to restore the firmware to default 5,1 firmware, I got an error MSG "This program requires Internet access. Please connect your Mac Pro to the Internet and try again." whenever I open the APP.
No, stop trying to downgrade. You can get a brick.

If you still have problems after testing with GTX 690, I can check something into your BootROM dump.

Test with GTX 690, read the first post GTX 680 note before anything.
 

wingyiulam

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No, stop trying to downgrade. You can get a brick.

If you still have problems after testing with GTX 690, I can check something into your BootROM dump.

Test with GTX 690, read the first post GTX 680 note before anything.

Thank you :), I will keep you updated
 

PianoPro

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Is it possible to use the GT120 along with an RX580 to display the boot screens under Mojave?

I know the GT120 isn't a metal supported card, but does this configuration work?

I tried it and found that my MP wouldn't boot (or at least nothing ever displayed on screen and I neglected to try RDP)
I got the same result as you trying to boot with an RX-560 and HD5770 (not even connected to a monitor) installed. I've asked for a couple of weeks, and searched the web, but haven't found any definitive reports that Mojave (released version or previous couple of beta versions) will boot when there is both a metal card and a 5770 present in the Mac Pro. I suspect the same situation may apply with a metal card and the GT120 (since it was one of the 3 cards shipped with the Mac Pro by Apple).

Apparently Mojave will boot with only the 5770 installed (there are multiple reports that is true, but I don't recall if I've seen that written about the GT120), but it then runs very slowly (unaccelerated) and isn't useful. So I've never tried the HD5770 alone since it would be of no value to me. That may be where "rumors" that you can run both cards at the same time come from. But I have yet to see a definitive report of Mojave booting with both cards installed at the same time. I keep hoping that a new Mojave version will permit that to work just so I can keep a 5770 installed to get a boot screen if I ever need one again.
 
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caliguy1965

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Hi, does anyone know if an Asus rog strix rx560 4g gaming card woyld work for Mojave install on my 2009 5.1 Mac pro?
 

wingyiulam

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No, stop trying to downgrade. You can get a brick.

If you still have problems after testing with GTX 690, I can check something into your BootROM dump.

Test with GTX 690, read the first post GTX 680 note before anything.

Tsialex, you are the man, I got it to work. The cmp can boot and install Mojave with GTX 690, 1080ti has zero support, it can't boot nor install. As far as I know there is no web driver available for the 1080ti, I saw some people running a 1080ti on Mojave, do you have any idea? is it because I skipped the firmware update of mp51.0089.b00?

I currently had Mojave installed on an ahci ssd. Base on your other post, you mentioned 138.0.0.0 does not support native boot from NVME, but 140.0.0.0 does. Should I stick with the ahci ssd for now? or is there a way booting from it?

My other CMP has the default 5,1 rom that I flashed from 4,1. I download the latest high Sierra and install, it asks me to upgrade the firmware. I enter the password and try to shut it down to continue the process, but the cmp doesn't shut down at all. I am having issue flashing to the latest rom for high Sierra. Should I flash this CMP directly to 138.0.0.0 just like the one I did.

Thank you!
 
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tsialex

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Tsialex, you are the man, I got it to work. The cmp can boot and install Mojave with GTX 690, 1080ti has zero support, it can't boot nor install. As far as I know there is no web driver available for the 1080ti, I saw some people running a 1080ti on Mojave, do you have any idea? is it because I skipped the firmware update of mp51.0089.b00?

BootROM has nothing to do with driver support.

Any GPU from NVIDIA newer than Kepler has zero driver support with Mojave until NVIDIA releases the web drivers.

If someone got a 1080 showing screens with Mojave, it's a Mac EFI flashed GPU and is running the un-accelerated default EFI drivers, so it's unuseful to work as is so sluggish to do anything besides showing the screen.

I currently had Mojave installed on an ahci ssd. Base on your other post, you mentioned 138.0.0.0 does not support native boot from NVME, but 140.0.0.0 does. Should I stick with the ahci ssd for now? or is there a way booting from it?

140.0.0.0.0 has support for PCIe booting from NVMe and AHCI, your AHCI PCIe blade will continue to work as always worked before, no changes. We expect that Apple will release 140.0.0.0.0 with 10.14.1 in the next week or so.

My other CMP has the default 5,1 rom that I flashed from 4,1. I download the latest high Sierra and install, it asks me to upgrade the firmware. I enter the password and try to shut it down to continue the process, but the cmp doesn't shut down at all. I am having issue flashing to the latest rom for high Sierra. Should I flash this CMP directly to 138.0.0.0 just like the one I did.

Thank you!

Don't do the flash from the USB installer, do from macOS. Use a Mac EFI GPU to flash until MP51.0089.B00.

If you are having problems with macOS flashing, probably you are using some non standard macOS install and the installer can't bless your drive. Get a empty drive, install it onto the SATA bay, install 10.13.6 into it, update the firmware to MP51.0089.B00 then to 138.0.0.0.0.
 
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wingyiulam

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BootROM has nothing to do with driver support.

Any GPU from NVIDIA newer than Kepler has zero driver support with Mojave until NVIDIA releases the web drivers.

If someone got a 1080 showing screens with Mojave, it's a Mac EFI flashed GPU and is running the un-accelerated default EFI drivers, so it's unuseful to work as is so sluggish to do anything besides showing the screen.



140.0.0.0.0 has support for PCIe booting from NVMe and AHCI, your AHCI PCIe blade will continue to work as always worked before, no changes. We expect that Apple will release 140.0.0.0.0 with 10.14.1 in the next week or so.



Don't do the flash from the USB installer, do from macOS. Use a Mac EFI GPU to flash until MP51.0089.B00.

If you are having problems with macOS flashing, probably you are using some non standard macOS install and the installer can't bless your drive. Get a empty drive, install it onto the SATA bay, install 10.13.6 into it, update the firmware to MP51.0089.B00 then to 138.0.0.0.0.

Thank you, I tried it. The current firmware of the CMP is MP51.007F.B03 and the installer is 13.6.02. I insert a empty disk onto SATA bay, take out the original disk and boot from USB. Firmware update warning pop up once I hit the installer, but then the CMP still doesn't shut down continuing the progress. am I having the wrong installer? I think it is the lately installer of HS.
 

tsialex

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Thank you, I tried it. The current firmware of the CMP is MP51.007F.B03 and the installer is 13.6.02. I insert a empty disk onto SATA bay, take out the original disk and boot from USB. Firmware update warning pop up once I hit the installer, but then the CMP still doesn't shut down continuing the progress. am I having the wrong installer? I think it is the lately installer of HS.

It's the second time that I tell you this: upgrade your firmware from macOS, it's detailed extensively with the first post, not from the USB installer. It's a know problem.

I never got the USB installer to update any MP4,1>5,1 Mac Pro. The only people that got it working have MP5,1 with the original Apple HD 5770 or HD 5780.

If you don't have 10.13.6 installed, and the installer requests a firmware update, use another supported Mac to install onto the hard disk, or use a 10.12/10.11 macOS installation. Do what is easier for you, but run the 10.13.6 installer from a macOS install, not from USB.
 
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