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tsialex

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Just using HDMI at 1080p screen so no need to worry about that?
No, HDMI only have problems if you have a 4K or bigger monitor, not for full HD.

And you mean installing High Sierra via Recovery mode? Just making sure. :D
You can't do a clean install from Recovery. Use a createinstallmedia USB disk or install from macOS to a second disk.

Use a SATA disk installed on SATA bay 1, don't use any PCIe SATA adapter/cards.
 

jeremiasm

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Use a createinstallmedia USB disk

So I already have a clean install of High Sierra, installed from a createinstallmedia USB disk. On a SATA disk. And the original problem:

"When trying to upgrade the firmware Mojave installer constantly asks administrator password in order to add a new helper tool and won't ever shut down."
 

bsbeamer

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Download this full installer with script and try again.
MAS does not always serve full installer.
 

jeremiasm

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That download and fresh install of High Sierra via installinstallmacos.py did it! Thank you very much! :D
 

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Tell me, I have a 2010-2012 Mac Pro - compared to Mojave which i have running without a metal graphics card - works great, can Big Sur be installed without metal ?
 

Macschrauber

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Tell me, I have a 2010-2012 Mac Pro - compared to Mojave which i have running without a metal graphics card - works great, can Big Sur be installed without metal ?
No and no, if you run your Mojave without a Metal card you either run it thru Framebuffer unaccelerated or you use patches. It won't allow one to install natively without a metal card.

Try Maps, if it just displays a black screen you have no metal graphics available.

Same with Big Sur.
 

Priatnasuardi

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hello, i have quite an issue.

i replace my backplane and my powersupply of my MP5.1 dual processor a week ago..

how ever, my mac failed to boot to the installed os. it keep restarting everytime i try to boot the system, even when i try install a new OS, heres what i did so far

1. i check with AHT stating with no hardware problem.

the bootrom is at MP51.88Z.0089.B00

i have the original GPU, the HD5770
I also have the metal capable. RX580

if i installed the HD5770 i got video, but no video when i installed rx580.

2. I run at verbose mode, the booting process stop at appletymcedriver.kext
3. Previous shutdown cause :-128 memory related

any of you guys experience this issue?
 

tsialex

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2. I run at verbose mode, the booting process stop at appletymcedriver.kext
3. Previous shutdown cause :-128 memory related
This is has nothing with the topic of the thread and you should posted on a more appropriated one, but I'm gonna help you just once here.

When you have the boot process stopping at AppleTyMCEDriver.kext you have defective ECC RAM, it's the kext that manages ECC memory. Run memtest86 on each one of your DIMMs separately and find the one that is causing it.

If you have any more doubts, please use the search and find a thread more appropriate, don't post off-topic.
 

Priatnasuardi

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This is has nothing with the topic of the thread and you should posted on a more appropriated one, but I'm gonna help you just once here.

When you have the boot process stopping at AppleTyMCEDriver.kext you have defective ECC RAM, it's the kext that manages ECC memory. Run memtest86 on each one of your DIMMs separately and find the one that is causing it.

If you have any more doubts, please use the search and find a thread more appropriate, don't post off-topic.
Hey sorry, for the off topic.

i tought im dealing with a corrupt bootrom, thats why i put it here.
Sorry for that.

I just asd test on all the memory with no fail.

I also did put the memory one by one, with no luck.

ill find the appropriate topic.

thanks anyway
 

tsialex

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Hey sorry, for the off topic.

i tought im dealing with a corrupt bootrom, thats why i put it here.
Sorry for that.
Wrong thread also, this thread is for Mojave firmware upgrades and not for BootROM problems ;)

I just asd test on all the memory with no fail.

I also did put the memory one by one, with no luck.

ill find the appropriate topic.

thanks anyway
Use memtest86, not ASD/AHT.

Test each one of the DIMMs for at least 10 complete tests, some ECC errors are extremely difficult to trigger with memory tests since the memory error correction mask the error or correct the error, but cause immediate problems with AppleTyMCEDriver.kext. If you have another Mac Pro that is working perfectly, try the CPU tray with your Mac Pro.

Btw, if you have an engineering sample Xeon or an i7 of the Nehalem generation, you problem could be microcode related, since Apple removed support with any 0x106A4 CPUs starting with MP51.0087.B00, only 0x106A5 are since then (this happened back in 2018) officially supported.
 
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Priatnasuardi

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Wrong thread also, this thread is for Mojave firmware upgrades and not for BootROM problems ;)


Use memtest86, not ASD/AHT.

Test each one of the DIMMs for at least 10 complete tests, some ECC errors are extremely difficult to trigger with memory tests since the memory error correction mask the error or correct the error, but cause immediate problems with AppleTyMCEDriver.kext. If you have another Mac Pro that is working perfectly, try the CPU tray with your Mac Pro.

Btw, if you have an engineering sample Xeon or an i7 of the Nehalem generation, you problem could be microcode related, since Apple removed support with any 0x064 CPUs starting with MP51.0087.B00, only 0x065 are now (this happened in 2018) officially supported.
On it! thanks so much.
If this works ill post a new thread, ive come a long way!

thanks so much!
 

choreo

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I have a 2012 5,1 Boot Rom 144.0.0.0.0 and MVC flashed Sapphire GPU running Mojave. Is it possible to "downgrade" and install Sierra with my configuration?

I am (reluctantly) selling my 5,1 and a buyer is asking that question.
 

tsialex

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I have a 2012 5,1 Boot Rom 144.0.0.0.0 and MVC flashed Sapphire GPU running Mojave. Is it possible to "downgrade" and install Sierra with my configuration?

I am (reluctantly) selling my 5,1 and a buyer is asking that question.
Answered on the first post of the thread, yes:

- 144.0.0.0.0 and previous macOS releases note:

Yes, BootROM 144.0.0.0.0 can boot even 10.6.4 (10F2521), the first ever macOS release that supports a MP5,1, but you are limited to GPU driver support since you can't boot a macOS version that don't have drivers for your GPU. For example, with AMD RX 4xx/5xx GPUs, you are limited to 10.12.6/10.13/10.14.

It's the distribution file inside the macOS installer that defines what Macs are supported. Earlier releases than 10.6.4 (10F2521) don't have MP5,1 support and are not bootable with a MP5,1. Several people on MacRumors checked 10.6.8 and it runs without any problems with 144.0.0.0.0.

Other limitation is NVMe support if you have a NVMe drive, NVMe only works since High Sierra (Sierra for 4KB/sector drives), read the first post of the PCIe SSDs - NVMe & AHCI thread to know more. SATA support is not affected by NVMe support requirements.

Btw, you can upgrade your firmware to 144.0.0.0.0 without installing Mojave, just close the installer after the firmware upgrade is done. Remember that you can't do that by USB, read the Upgrade firmware from USB note.
 
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No and no, if you run your Mojave without a Metal card you either run it thru Framebuffer unaccelerated or you use patches. It won't allow one to install natively without a metal card.

Try Maps, if it just displays a black screen you have no metal graphics available.

Same with Big Sur.
Maps works.
 

Reclzz

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Anyway to do a clean install with no boot screen and no fully erased ssd?
 
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tsialex

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Anyway to do a clean install with no boot screen and no fully erased ssd?

 

Reclzz

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Fully erase your HDD like this?

Boot a createinstallmedia 10.14.6 USB installer, open Terminal:

1) First list your disks with:
Code:
diskutil list

2) Find what's the disk number of the HDD that you're gonna erase/install Mojave:


Replace diskXX on the command below to zero disk your HDD:
Code:
diskutil zerodisk diskXX
You don't need to wait until the end of zero disk, 3% and you can terminate it, unless you suspect that your disk have some bad sector or another defect.

3) Shutdown, power on and do the 4-times NVRAM reset procedure then boot from your createinstallmedia pendrive and install 10.14.6 on your disk.

Sorry for my noobness here.

Will the usb installer then format the drive and install mojave without any interaction from the user?
 

tsialex

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Sorry for my noobness here.

Will the usb installer then format the drive and install mojave without any interaction from the user?
No, you have to format it yourself and progress the install as usual, no automation.
 

Reclzz

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No, you have to format it yourself and progress the install as usual, no automation.

Doesn’t bootscreen and installation screen need EFI GPU or is a PC METAL capable GPU sufficient?

The last time I tried installing any version of macOS, I had to use my old Radeon 5700 and not my new RX480.
 

tsialex

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Doesn’t bootscreen and installation screen need EFI GPU

No. Please read the first post of the thread, the requirements are clearly explained there.

or is a PC METAL capable GPU sufficient?

Once you have 144.0.0.0.0 BootROM installed, the requirement is just a High Sierra METAL supported GPU. If High Sierra supports the GPU natively, Mojave installer will work fine except for NVIDIA Kepler GPUs (also explained on the first post and the workaround needed for clean installs).

The last time I tried installing any version of macOS, I had to use my old Radeon 5700 and not my new RX480.

AMD Polaris/Ellesmere GPUs are fully supported by Mojave installer, unless you have a fake or a Chinese market version.
 
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