MP 1,1-5,1 MacPro5,1: What you have to do to upgrade to Mojave (10.13/10.14 BootROM upgrades instructions thread)

[tsialex]

Using Mist and downloading the installer Mojave 10.14.4 (18E2034) can work?

Only if you already had 144.0.0.0.0 installed, if not, completely useless.

My Radeon RX 580 isn't flashed, can't see the boot...

This makes it more complicated, but not impossible.

You can always ask me for the BootROM reconstruction service and upgrade the Mac Pro firmware and have pre-boot configuration support (BootPicker/boot screens/etc) in one go.

Didn't understand another thing: the installation need to be from scratch or can upgrade my High Sierra only?

Thanks for the patience, much information in so many ways...

You can upgrade a HighSierra install if you already have MP51.0089.B00 installed, if not, you’ll need to clean install High Sierra with your AppleOEM GPU first.

 

[MurdockMan]

Only if you already had 144.0.0.0.0 installed, if not, completely useless.

Positive, have the 144.0.0.0.0

This makes it more complicated, but not impossible.

You can always ask me for the BootROM reconstruction service and upgrade the Mac Pro firmware and have pre-boot configuration support (BootPicker/boot screens/etc) in one go.



You can upgrade a HighSierra install if you already have MP51.0089.B00 installed, if not, you’ll need to clean install High Sierra with your AppleOEM GPU first.

Boot ROM reconstruction service... 🤔 Perhaps another way around?

My objective it to install Big Sur or Monterey and stop... need open core to do that?

Have High Sierra right now!

Thanks for your time

 

[tsialex]

My objective it to install Big Sur or Monterey and stop... need open core to do that?

Yes. Mojave is the last officially supported macOS release. Anything past Mojave is unsupported and requires OC/OCLP.

Big Sur is not stable with MacPro5,1, while Monterey runs very good.

Have High Sierra right now!

You can try upgrading High Sierra to Mojave or installing Mojave to another disk opening the installer booted from High Sierra.

 

[MurdockMan]

Used Mojave first install from Mist (10.14.4)... using a MacBook Air and the app in Sonoma (don't run in old systems), downloaded Mojave Install and moved to the Mac Pro.

In cMP 4.1 desktop from High Sierra, update worked ... after 40 minutes with black screen appeared the mouse cursor, after more 10 minutes the dialog to finish... the system was automatically updated High Sierra to Mojave and everything stays in his right place!

🙏

After searching more info about this procedure, found that the system update and don't do a clean install if the user doesn't choose anything for about 10 minutes.

From here, the next move is update system to Catalina or go for Monterey?
Open core from where? Big Sur? Or can try another stuff...

One more thing, the BootCamp says that don't support this computer and the System update on AppStore don't connect to the net???? No auto updates?

Thanks

 

[tsialex]

From here, the next move is update system to Catalina or go for Monterey?

Like I´ve wrote, Monterey.

Open core from where? Big Sur? Or can try another stuff...

OpenCore on the Mac Pro stickie thread for manual install or OCLP, see what is more appropriate for you.

One more thing, the BootCamp says that don't support this computer and the System update on AppStore don't connect to the net???? No auto updates?

Thanks

Wow, this is now way way off-topic for this thread.

Search for Brigadier, so you can download the drivers.

Now, please find a more appropriate thread for any further doubts.

 

[MurdockMan]

Only want to transmit my experience for the process... the process of updating the system should be more clear, by my opinion... why don't make a sticky with that?

Thank's for your time.

Best Regards

 

[tsialex]

Only want to transmit my experience for the process... the process of updating the system should be more clear, by my opinion... why don't make a sticky with that?

Thank's for your time.

Best Regards

You’re welcome to start one.

 

[UKenGB]

Only want to transmit my experience for the process... the process of updating the system should be more clear, by my opinion... why don't make a sticky with that?

There's no 'should' about this. The only 'entity' that 'should' do things is Apple and they should have allowed Mojave to install on the cMP. It runs perfectly and only prevented by Apple specifically coding the installer to NOT do it which is despicable in my books.

No-one here 'should' do anything. No-one's being paid to provide any of this information, but this thread has becopme quite long so takes a bit of unpicking nowadays.

I can however confirm that a cMP 4,1, updated with Alex's boot ROM and a Metal capable GPU can have Mojave directly installed and it runs perfectly. With a later WiFi/BT board, even Watch unlock works.

Any later MacOS requires Open Core and I Used OCLP to install Monterey, which also runs great, no problem.

Later than that and you lose stuff, so not really recommended and I would stick at Monterey.

 

[MurdockMan]

Thank you for your words!

Alex's is a Master, helping lots of people from here, that's all i can say about him; have read lot's and lots of posts from him.

🙏

My point here is to pickup the most value information and put it very straightforward to all the seekers.... lot's of people struggle filtering information.

This type of machines are the Crown of what Apple can do at is best, merging good hardware and software in one kind of setup... does days are gone, unfortunately!

They still make good machines but not upgraded has you know.

From my experience, giving the final thoughts, no updates in the system work and the old fault's, are in... connecting new phones need to install Xcode to activate the connection, Mail running lots of problems with certificates... etc... etc... but dawn, i love this machine... from August 2009 until this day, just a stress in the first month when the audio driver pulls the temperature to 90 degrees... after 2 months, firmware update and the problem was solved and Apple didn't describe the addition in the package.

😁

If you, or Alex's, need my help... i'm all in!

Beste Regards

p.s.- maybe next week the OCLP arive in and report my thoughts. Now, BootCamp are driving me crazy... 😡😤😎

 

[llabrie68]

so I purchased a Mac Pro 5.1 2010 cheap they said it wouldn't boot turns out it had a bad power supply. I got a used PS on ebay installed put in a SSD with High Sierra it booted right up. I did all updates. and installed Nvidia web drivers as I had a Quadro M2000 4GB dGPU and had to access through screen share "it was setup on drive previously" I got the Nvidia drivers working and had local screen after boot yay. This MP 5.1 was already updated as far as firmware the 144.0.0.0.0. I then borrowed a RX 580 4GB out of one of my hackintoshes. it worked once it was at login of course.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BJKwQse7yCTVKFg00JZPAEUGRDIt_kvY/view?usp=drive_link

I then tried to upgrade to Mojave from macos high sierra knowing I would have a black screen till upgrade finished. I let it sit for over 2 hours. Still a black screen. Upgrade failed. Powered it off now I don't have a chime and no boot. I have tried everything reset pram never get chime reset SMC stripped down to basics. check the Dia lights all green. let it sit over night unplugged 12 hours. Still not booting it turns on white light looks all good fans spinning but no chime no boot I have it sitting stripped no battery power supply unplugged from back and from MB going to let it sit 24 hrs.
Worth noting
(The CPU card does have a bad ram slot as I got the flashing white light if a chip is in slot 1 worked with chips in slots 2,3)
I have ordered a 2012 backpane with latest firmware 144, a dual CPU card 12 core 3.33MHz a MAC flashed Graphics card RX 580 8GB and more RAM. So I will have a new "to me" setup soon but while I am waiting for the new hardware I'm trying to figure this out as it should have just booted back to High Sierra after the upgrade failed. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[tsialex]

so I purchased a Mac Pro 5.1 2010 cheap they said it wouldn't boot turns out it had a bad power supply. I got a used PS on ebay installed put in a SSD with High Sierra it booted right up. I did all updates. and installed Nvidia web drivers as I had a Quadro M2000 4GB dGPU and had to access through screen share "it was setup on drive previously" I got the Nvidia drivers working and had local screen after boot yay. This MP 5.1 was already updated as far as firmware the 144.0.0.0.0. I then borrowed a RX 580 4GB out of one of my hackintoshes. it worked once it was at login of course.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BJKwQse7yCTVKFg00JZPAEUGRDIt_kvY/view?usp=drive_link

I then tried to upgrade to Mojave from macos high sierra knowing I would have a black screen till upgrade finished.

Wrong, a standard (non-flashed, non-EnableGop inside the BootROM) RX 580 is a supported card Sierra on-wards, you have black screen up to the time macOS load the GPU driver, after that, mid-time while loading macOS, you have the display working - no black screen.

I let it sit for over 2 hours. Still a black screen. Upgrade failed. Powered it off now I don't have a chime and no boot. I have tried everything reset pram never get chime reset SMC stripped down to basics. check the Dia lights all green. let it sit over night unplugged 12 hours. Still not booting it turns on white light looks all good fans spinning but no chime no boot I have it sitting stripped no battery power supply unplugged from back and from MB going to let it sit 24 hrs.
Worth noting
(The CPU card does have a bad ram slot as I got the flashing white light if a chip is in slot 1 worked with chips in slots 2,3)

LOL. You have a lot of problems…

I wouldn't even think to install macOS with a defective CPU tray.

I have ordered a 2012 backpane with latest firmware 144, a dual CPU card 12 core 3.33MHz a MAC flashed Graphics card RX 580 8GB and more RAM. So I will have a new "to me" setup soon but while I am waiting for the new hardware I'm trying to figure this out as it should have just booted back to High Sierra after the upgrade failed. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Could be that you had a barely working BootROM and trying to install macOS (a very expensive operation NAND wise) killed it, unfortunately this happens. Or even you defective CPU tray corrupted a erase or write operation inside the NVRAM and killed it.

 

[llabrie68]

Wrong, RX 580 is a supported card Sierra on-wards, you have black screen up to the time macOS load the GPU driver, after that, mid-time while loading macOS, you have working display - no black screen.

Yes I got a display right before login at the very end of the apple with loading bar once drivers were loaded basicly that what I said.

 

[llabrie68]

Could be that you had a barely working BootROM and trying to install macOS (a very expensive operation NAND wise) killed it, unfortunately this happens. Or even you defective CPU tray corrupted a erase or write operation inside the NVRAM and killed it.

I am thinking this is what happened as it seems the bootrom is bad even thought there was no firmware update. well I will just wait for the new hardware then.

 

[llabrie68]

I wouldn't even try to install macOS with a defective CPU tray.

The pre installed High Sierra " from another Mac booted no problem even cloned it to a PCIe NVMe SSD and it booted from there that is where I tried the upgrade from booted from the NVMe.

 

[llabrie68]

I am thinking this is what happened as it seems the bootrom is bad even thought there was no firmware update. well I will just wait for the new hardware then.

Hoping the 2012 backpane is better even though it is 13 yrs old. and the new CPUs card/ backpane are both tested working

 

[llabrie68]

LOL. You have a lot of problems…

I wouldn't even think to install macOS with a defective CPU tray.

Well it was free so I can't bitch lol just building a new MP now and it will be a 2012 MP