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kildraik said:
What are those headpones? I want them.

sony MDR-XD200
i love them. they're $40 & sound great. not quite noise cancelling but still verrry good.

EDIT: can we stop talking about clothes & their prices now please? you're not changing anyones life by telling us how much your clothes cost & why more expensive ones suck.
 
katie ta achoo said:
Obsessed with labels.. does not make sense to KT.

I was obsessed with labels in middle school, but it was mainly because I couldn't have them while everyone else seemed like they could. When you have a family of six with basically only one single military salary coming in (my mom started working part-time after all the kids were in school) there's not much money for name-brands. My mom once even sewed me a bag that looked like the big Esprit bags that were in at the time and stenciled the name on the pocket. :rolleyes: What a nerd and a fool I was.... Luckily, I grew out of that quickly in high school--so much so that I was proudly wearing home-made pajama pants to school at one point. Who cares what brand your clothes are so long as they look good on you. Frankly, I'm a bit wary of anyone who name drops the brands of clothing they wear during casual conversation unless someone explicitly asked for the brand. Offering up the information voluntarily and on a regular basis just comes off as a bit snooty or self-obsessed and maybe even a little insecure IMO. It's probably not that way for all people, but I've known plenty who really have done that just to show off. :rolleyes: :p

Edit: markkk!, sorry, just saw your post. This is my last comment on the subject for now....
 
Josh said:
Buying a $60 shirt over a $5 one because you think "it makes you look good" is a clear sign that you've got more insecurity than anything else.
Agreed, but once again only to an extent. Buy a $5 tee-shirt at Wally World, then head over to the closest Armani Exchange and buy an $80 tee-shirt. Think of the garments fabric quality, softness, weight, appeal, and most of all, fit. Wal-Mart = cheap, rough-like fabric, heavy, bland, and very loose fitting. Armani = expensive, soft and smooth, light, intriguing, and snugs your body. If you had a loaded wallet, which would you buy? Most people fall in between. I'm personally not loaded, but I spend quite a lot of my budget on expensive clothes. They suite me much better than cheaper clothing. I go for the Armani. I'm not nagging and trying to say anything bad about people who buy cheaper clothing, please understand that. To exten that point, some people who buy more expensive clothing buy just to feel good or superior, which is ridiculous, because it makes them that much less attractive.

In all, it's what the person wants. If someone wants to spend $60 on a polo, and they feel good about it, then so be it. Same with the person spending $5 on a polo. They're happy, and thats all that matters, right? Hell, I spend $20 per peice of underwear, around $200-$250 per pair of jeans, and $40 just for a tee-shirt.

If someone wants to rag on people who spend too much on clothing, I encourage them to do so to me.

People will be people, thats why I love'em.:)

EDIT: I agree with markkk!. Like floriflee, this is my last comment on the clothing subject. :p
 
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Absolutely. The abundance is astonishing. If you want good shopping you should visit either Beijing or Shanghai. In Beijing visit a place called Silk Street. It's a large indoor market where many foreigners go to haggle for cheap goods. Often the clothing isn't actually fake, but just rejects from the production line. Perhaps the logo on that Adidas track jacket was a bit skewed (which is actually the case for me). Always aim to bargain for about 20-40% of the asking price. If they refuse, say it's too expensive and walk away. 90% of the time they'll shout to call you back and be more permissive of aggressive haggling.

As for Shanghai, the big fake clothing market called Xiang Yang Market recently closed down. The land was bought out in favour of a large new shopping mall (you won't find fake stuff there!). But there are tons of little shops scattered around Shanghai that sell the fake clothing that once was sold at Xiang Yang. Also, there's a road called Qi Pu Road (pronounced Chee Pu, oh and "lu" is mandarin for "road") that has tons of small shops like Xiang Yang, but it's more obscure and harder to find. Ask the concierge at your hotel.

The quality of fake items is actually very good. Except for shoes. Shoes are often sub-par, and fall apart easily. You'll see the workmanship on all non-leather sports shoes like Adidas and Converse and Puma and Nike. Try to stay away from fake shoes.

The quality of clothing, however, is actually quite astonishing, and nearly as if not just as good as their real counterparts (I'm talking about build quality). Sometimes the logo will be a little off (after all, they churn these things out and you can't expect them to spend too much time on the little Lacoste alligator) but that's a small price to pay.

As for the "higher end" items you're talking about, when it comes to Polo and Lacoste, most of the time the Polo shirts I see are mostly solid coloured. But they're very thick and made with relatively high quality fabric that will last a while. They do sell Lacoste striped polos. But they also sell tons and tons and tons of dress shirts branded as Polo, DKNY, Hugo Boss, Giorgio Armani, among others. There is a much larger variety of dress shirts than polo shirts. Polo shirts are only a small part of the underground market in China.

As for Nike, stay away from the shoes. In fact they don't fake many Nike shoes here. The popular brands tend to be the more casual/retro Adidas, Puma and Converse. When it comes to sports brands there are jackets and backpacks galore that seem to be quite high quality. Except often the zippers on the backpacks deteriorate rather quickly.

So, to recap, bargain bargain bargain, stay away from shoes, go to Qi Pu Lu in Shanghai and Silk Street in Beijing, and have fun.

One last thing—don't be afraid of obscure brands. Visit the independent fashion boutiques that litter Shanghai. You can find all styles of clothing. I suggest you visit a C-Pix franchise for a good selection of high-quality Threadless-like graphic tees for cheap (RMB 68 each). Also don't be afraid to visit the large shopping malls like those in Xu Jia Hui, or Times Square, Next Age and Plaza 66 (your hotel concierge will know about all of these). You can always pay a bit more for quality clothing there. Although stay away from reknowned-brand retail stores like Vero Moda, Burberry, Mont Blanc, Armani, Gucci and the rest. You're not in China to shop like you're in Europe.

Enjoy!

Thank you so much Cleanup

I think you pretty summed up everything me and my friends needed to know before we make our trip

thanks for all the detail you put into all the different items

I hope our trip to china will be pleasurable

I cant wait to get to shanghai

Thank you once again

P.S. You think 500 is enough for clothes and etc
sorry for the questions
 
devilot said:
The older brands are having to re-invent themselves to make money... The same could have also been said about Polo/ Ralph Lauren, Gucci, Chanel, Dior, Coach, Louis Vuitton, etc. They've all re-invented their lines and products to try to attract the younger crowd... whoever's got the $$$.
gekko513 said:
They're going to have to come up with something different than polos to convince me. :p

Agreed with gekko513. :p I don't mind polos, but I think polos from super designer brands like Lacoste don't look right on a person unless that person has white hair.
 
Abstract said:
Agreed with gekko513. :p I don't mind polos, but I think polos from super designer brands like Lacoste don't look right on a person unless that person has white hair.

haha... Lacoste is not a super designer brand. Lacoste is much lower end then like Burberry, Louis Vuitton, Dolce and Gabbana, Gucci, etc.
 
I actually saw one guy with a polo when I was out testing my new camera today in Oslo. :p It was a Lacoste polo, no less, and the guy was only about 30 years old. However, that was the only polo I saw during the whole day. I admit I didn't really remember to look for them, but when I noticed that guy I did spend the next 15-30 minutes scanning for polo wearing people and I didn't see any.
 
People will like you better if you wear name brand deodorant as opposed to name brand clothing... :rolleyes:
 
well im not gonna start a ''Why half of macrumors people don't like expensive clothing because they think it is a waste of money, even though them ranting isn't going to change anyones mind on what to wear'' thread.
 
ilikeninjas90 said:
Thank you so much Cleanup

I think you pretty summed up everything me and my friends needed to know before we make our trip

thanks for all the detail you put into all the different items

I hope our trip to china will be pleasurable

I cant wait to get to shanghai

Thank you once again

P.S. You think 500 is enough for clothes and etc
sorry for the questions

$500 yes. RMB 500, no.
 
I blame the whole polo-wearing revolution on P. Diddy. That twit wore it in a music video in the late 90s, and since then young people have been wearing it even though they can't pull it off.



w_parietti22 said:
haha... Lacoste is not a super designer brand. Lacoste is much lower end then like Burberry, Louis Vuitton, Dolce and Gabbana, Gucci, etc.

Oh sorry. I wouldn't know much about Lacoste. I'll worry about their brand once I'm old enough to wear that ****. ;)
 
markkk! said:
well im not gonna start a ''Why half of macrumors people don't like expensive clothing because they think it is a waste of money, even though them ranting isn't going to change anyones mind on what to wear'' thread.
Ha! you should make one. I'll participate. Chances are though, people may start posting pictures instead.:p
 
Abstract said:
I blame the whole polo-wearing revolution on P. Diddy. That twit wore it in a music video in the late 90s, and since then young people have been wearing it even though they can't pull it off.





Oh sorry. I wouldn't know much about Lacoste. I'll worry about their brand once I'm old enough to wear that ****. ;)

Ouch but not really. Lacoste is the new "in" brand if you ask me. In the past year I have seen more people wearing lacoste than I have in a long time. I remember when I was like 3 I had lacoste shirts and I really liked them because they had the crocodile on them.

I don't see why people are so concerned. Its our money, our choice, and our style. People don't go around yelling at people that they spent too much money on their car air freshener, paper towels, or pair of scissors.

You may not "understand", or "see" why people would spend $50 on a shirt but who cares. If you say that you don't care what other people are wearing, then why do you care that they spend $50+ on a shirt. So yes, people spend $50 on a shirt, ok- it is what it is why does anyone care. Would you rather see us wear loin cloths weaved with our bare hands. Some people spend $50,000 on a BMW when they could spend $20,000 on a Hyundai (hyundai also has a better warranty and probably is more reliable). Some people buy a $1,000,000 house when they could spend $100,000. Some people buy expensive shampoo, others buy suave. Hey, did you know some people spend $1500 on a Macintosh when they could spend $399 on a Dell PC.

What I don't understand is how many times we have to discuss this (along with Mac teens having nice computers).

I don't understand...
 
CompUser said:
Ouch but not really. Lacoste is the new "in" brand if you ask me. In the past year I have seen more people wearing lacoste than I have in a long time. I remember when I was like 3 I had lacoste shirts and I really liked them because they had the crocodile on them.

They became "in" like 5-6 years ago. I was still in Canada at the time, which is why I remember.

I don't see why people are so concerned. Its our money, our choice, and our style. People don't go around yelling at people that they spent too much money on their car air freshener, paper towels, or pair of scissors.

You may not "understand", or "see" why people would spend $50 on a shirt but who cares. If you say that you don't care what other people are wearing, then why do you care that they spend $50+ on a shirt. So yes, people spend $50 on a shirt, ok- it is what it is why does anyone care. Would you rather see us wear loin cloths weaved with our bare hands. Some people spend $50,000 on a BMW when they could spend $20,000 on a Hyundai (hyundai also has a better warranty and probably is more reliable). Some people buy a $1,000,000 house when they could spend $100,000. Some people buy expensive shampoo, others buy suave. Hey, did you know some people spend $1500 on a Macintosh when they could spend $399 on a Dell PC.

I never said I was concerned. Not at all. Buy what you want. However, there are some things you pay more for, and get better quality. I don't feel that way about Lacoste, so I never bothered. I still think it's for old men, but even "if" I was looking for a polo, I'd get one that was made of a better material. I have one, and it's very soft and made from a 50% cotton/50% polyester blend. Why is that better? Because they last longer, their colour doesn't fade nearly as fast, and because it's actually made to wick moisture. Nobody can tell this by looking at it, but since I live in Australia, this is a big deal. Too bad they don't sell it here. I think I bought mine in Singapore.
 
To prevent this thread from getting wastelanded, I'm gonna post a photo. I used a really crappy camera on my old phone. This was taken around 3 years ago, and we all know how crap camera phones were 3 years ago.
 

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Abstract said:
To prevent this thread from getting wastelanded, I'm gonna post a photo. I used a really crappy camera on my old phone. This was taken around 3 years ago, and we all know how crap camera phones were 3 years ago.

Thanks for putting thing sback on track.

You look dead sexay. :p :)
 
Abstract said:
To prevent this thread from getting wastelanded, I'm gonna post a photo. I used a really crappy camera on my old phone. This was taken around 3 years ago, and we all know how crap camera phones were 3 years ago.

3 years ago, is that your SARS / Flu compute uniform ?
 
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