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I have a lot of polos. Its mostly what I wear. These are just some of the ones I have- most are in the wash because I just got back from vacation a couple days ago and the others have not been washed. I accidentally took out that long sleeve polo- I have a bunch more of those too.
I stick mostly to Abercrombie & Fitch, Polo, and J. Crew because they are the closest stores. I do have some American Eagle, Gap, Tommy Hilfiger, and 1 fitting Lacoste shirt. American Eagle has many close stores but I find there cloths are not that great in quality and too many people buy from there. I bought a rugby shirt there and about 500000 people at school.
I like the new J.Crew logo on their shirts, its a little guy holding an oar.
I hate that green polo, I never wear it, never will, I think the tag is still on it. I didn't buy it. I have a lot of cloths I have never worn come to think of it.
I stick mostly to Abercrombie & Fitch, Polo, and J. Crew because they are the closest stores. I do have some American Eagle, Gap, Tommy Hilfiger, and 1 fitting Lacoste shirt. American Eagle has many close stores but I find there cloths are not that great in quality and too many people buy from there. I bought a rugby shirt there and about 500000 people at school.
I like the new J.Crew logo on their shirts, its a little guy holding an oar.
I hate that green polo, I never wear it, never will, I think the tag is still on it. I didn't buy it. I have a lot of cloths I have never worn come to think of it.
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Me and my friends are thinking of going to China over the summer break, and I was wondering if China sells fake items, such as lacoste, nike, ralph lauren, and other big name clothing brands for cheap, but the "higher end" items (F.E. with more colors, stripes, and etc..), not just the plain and simple ones with one solid color
And also
how is the quality of fake items in China, and where would one go to find the ultimate deal?
And Im assuming China sells all types of items
Clothes, bags, shoes, hats, and etc?
The only reason I'd ever buy an item of regular clothing for over $30 or so was if it was of exceptional value or a rare item you couldn't just find anywhere. Above that it seems worthless.
mad jew said:I avoid all of this by spending most of the day nekkid.
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Yeah, but when you have to leave the house and get dressed, I usually throw on one of the 2/$15 tank tops I get from Sam's club and my red apple sale jeans that I got for $20.
Target has some CUTE Polos with little owls on them.. usually around $10, IIRC. I also live in those.. they fit so oddly though. I have a small, medium, and large in the shirt, and they all fit THE SAME!
ilikeninjas90 said:
Absolutely. The abundance is astonishing. If you want good shopping you should visit either Beijing or Shanghai. In Beijing visit a place called Silk Street. It's a large indoor market where many foreigners go to haggle for cheap goods. Often the clothing isn't actually fake, but just rejects from the production line. Perhaps the logo on that Adidas track jacket was a bit skewed (which is actually the case for me). Always aim to bargain for about 20-40% of the asking price. If they refuse, say it's too expensive and walk away. 90% of the time they'll shout to call you back and be more permissive of aggressive haggling.
As for Shanghai, the big fake clothing market called Xiang Yang Market recently closed down. The land was bought out in favour of a large new shopping mall (you won't find fake stuff there!). But there are tons of little shops scattered around Shanghai that sell the fake clothing that once was sold at Xiang Yang. Also, there's a road called Qi Pu Road (pronounced Chee Pu, oh and "lu" is mandarin for "road") that has tons of small shops like Xiang Yang, but it's more obscure and harder to find. Ask the concierge at your hotel.
The quality of fake items is actually very good. Except for shoes. Shoes are often sub-par, and fall apart easily. You'll see the workmanship on all non-leather sports shoes like Adidas and Converse and Puma and Nike. Try to stay away from fake shoes.
The quality of clothing, however, is actually quite astonishing, and nearly as if not just as good as their real counterparts (I'm talking about build quality). Sometimes the logo will be a little off (after all, they churn these things out and you can't expect them to spend too much time on the little Lacoste alligator) but that's a small price to pay.
As for the "higher end" items you're talking about, when it comes to Polo and Lacoste, most of the time the Polo shirts I see are mostly solid coloured. But they're very thick and made with relatively high quality fabric that will last a while. They do sell Lacoste striped polos. But they also sell tons and tons and tons of dress shirts branded as Polo, DKNY, Hugo Boss, Giorgio Armani, among others. There is a much larger variety of dress shirts than polo shirts. Polo shirts are only a small part of the underground market in China.
As for Nike, stay away from the shoes. In fact they don't fake many Nike shoes here. The popular brands tend to be the more casual/retro Adidas, Puma and Converse. When it comes to sports brands there are jackets and backpacks galore that seem to be quite high quality. Except often the zippers on the backpacks deteriorate rather quickly.
So, to recap, bargain bargain bargain, stay away from shoes, go to Qi Pu Lu in Shanghai and Silk Street in Beijing, and have fun.
One last thingdon't be afraid of obscure brands. Visit the independent fashion boutiques that litter Shanghai. You can find all styles of clothing. I suggest you visit a C-Pix franchise for a good selection of high-quality Threadless-like graphic tees for cheap (RMB 68 each). Also don't be afraid to visit the large shopping malls like those in Xu Jia Hui, or Times Square, Next Age and Plaza 66 (your hotel concierge will know about all of these). You can always pay a bit more for quality clothing there. Although stay away from reknowned-brand retail stores like Vero Moda, Burberry, Mont Blanc, Armani, Gucci and the rest. You're not in China to shop like you're in Europe.
Enjoy!
markkk! said:now you guys see why everyone bitches about the price of macs
seriously people. get over it. gosh.
That's an unfair comparison. Macs earn people money, allow them to talk to loved ones, do work, are entertainment, etc.
A $5 shirt and a $60 shirt do the same thing - they cover your torso, chest, and upper arms.
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scem0 said:
But PCs earn people money. Talk to loved ones? IM and email. Do work? Microsoft Office. Enterainment? Windows Media Player.
The do the same thing... Macs just do it better. Same thing with clothes, thye do the same thing... but nice clothes just make you look better.
w_parietti22 said:
Agreed, but only to an extent. To me nice clothes are only an extension of the already existing beauty of the person the clothes are covering. You have to look the part in order to pull off nice clothing. You can't just buy nice clothing and you automatically make everything better or even look the part, though sometimes that can be the case with special exceptions. It takes all hell to break loose for somebody to pull off nice casual wear, i.e. Abercrombie & Fitch/Hollister Co., since there are so little people who can (you need to have the necessary fascia and appealing look to attain to the clothings desired purpose: tight body fitting, usually supporting only certain builds such as thin and curvacious for the ladies, and the guys should be built but have a thin structure but definitious), but is easy to pull off formal wear, i.e. going from cheap suits to nice, spendy cocktail attire, etc. It can be complicated, no doubt, but one must understand their limits. I love the science of fashion and appeal.
CompUser said:
Good G*d you're generically dressed. Surely you can do so much better if you can afford to shop in stores like that. Buy stuff that makes you look nice, or cool, or at least makes you seem like an individual.
Sorry, but wow that's a lot of plain looking polo shirts. I know some of them have stripes, but still....
kildraik said:
I know. Some people just can't pull off a certain look. You can't just put on a nice shirt and automatically look nice.
You also can't buy good taste.
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder....garments don't have anything to do with it...You can walk the streets naked and still look hot(please don't try it though)
I'm not too fond of whats in "style" these days...I wear anything I want.
Bless
I'm not too fond of whats in "style" these days...I wear anything I want.
Bless
Are polos common among young people all over the US these days? Has it always been? I don't think they're common at all in Norway, except perhaps with the 40+ crowd, but I may have missed some recent development on the fashion front. I'm not really into it.
scem0 said:Am I the only one that would go to the salvation army store if they were to buy clothes? I never do, because I have old clothes that still fit me just fine, but if I needed clothes, there's no way I'd spend 20+ bucks on a shirt, that's outrageous.
$2 shirts, $4 jeans.... Salvation Army is the way to go
Eek, I can't imagine spending 25 bucks on a shirt! I wear hanes tagless Tee's - a 'Value Pack' of 5 of 'em is less than 15 bucks. Other than that I like tight small sized t-shirts that I generally got for free. My last clothing purchase was $5, a splurge
More stylish than a polo anyways!
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Right on.
Spending absurd amounts on clothes does not make one more attractive. It makes you have less money.
If you're good looking, you'll look good in anything. Buying a $60 shirt over a $5 one because you think "it makes you look good" is a clear sign that you've got more insecurity than anything else.
Eh. I think it's because we Americans tend to be a bit more bummy than others... and we love our t-shirts. Wearing these polos is a way to have the comfort of a t-shirt while not looking quite so casual. That and I think a lot of people are too lazy to find clothes that are truly flattering-- heck, if it's got a designer label you're automatically, cool right?gekko513 said:
I do own some brand-name clothing... but I don't buy it because of that. I find that I really do enjoy the fit and feel/ quality of my Lacoste polos. *shrug* Plus, quite a few of them were gifts.
And as for the whole thrift store thing-- I"ve tried it, believe me. But I swear, every time I go to look for stuff, I don't find anything I like. But sure enough, whenever I ask someone where they got this or that item, they respond, "A thrift store." GARH!
I think I understand the motivation. I'm really just making an observation on the differences in what is considered cool. It could be just me and not a Scandinavian thing in general, but whenever I see a shelf or a section of a store with clothes by Lacoste, I think old people. Then again, what do we Scandinavians know, we didn't really get non-tube socks until this year.
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Abstract said:
Most of my striped are in the wash. I know I have a lot of solid shirts- even multiples of the same color. Ex. Yellow J.Crew and Yellow Polo, Red Abercombie and Red Polo.
The older brands are having to re-invent themselves to make money... The same could have also been said about Polo/ Ralph Lauren, Gucci, Chanel, Dior, Coach, Louis Vuitton, etc. They've all re-invented their lines and products to try to attract the younger crowd... whoever's got the $$$.gekko513 said:
devilot said:
Rrggghhh, there's this girl that I know that REFUSES to wear anything that ISN'T Ralph Lauren.
It looks horrible on her.. she's just spoiled little princess, going through her parents' money... She buys $200 shirts and they're both MUSIC TEACHERS.
I think it'd be slightly more OK if they weren't.. music teachers (music teachers are notoriously underpaid in Texas), but... GEEZ!
Obsessed with labels.. does not make sense to KT.
Oops, I thought it had to be from thinkgeek.com to make it cool.devilot said:heck, if it's got a designer label you're automatically, cool right?
*shrug* They've convinced a lot of people... note the inordinate number of young folks sporting Dooney & Burke/ Coach/ Gucci/ LV/ etc. bags and accessories (yes, men sport their belts, hats, sunglasses, etc.).gekko513 said:They're going to have to come up with something different than polos to convince me.
And Katie, I agree, obsession is too much. I don't have issue if you're able to come up w/ the money and you so decide to spend it on brand name items-- I just hope that people are responsible enough to know where to draw the line.
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