iPhone 16e Many complain about 16e price, but their body action is the most honest

[Timpetus]

You do realize the venn diagram between the group complaining about the price and those buying the 16e is far from a circle, right?

 

[unchecked]

Seriously? Not even 1% of buyers have any clue what "a 60 Hz screen in 2025" is.

They may not know what a “hertz” is but considering how much kids game on phones these days, a lot of users of this phone can certainly see it, or the lack of it.

 

[Parowdy]

the only and best camera on a smartphone was nokia pureview 808. and also the stereo microphone. No iphone has ever updated to high quality stereo microphone.

Maybe you have never updated to high quality headphones or speakers. Or maybe you’re just unnecessarily nostalgic.

Edit: or maybe your iPhone simply doesn’t support stereo recording.

 

[Parowdy]

They may not know what a “hertz” is but considering how much kids game on phones these days, a lot of buyers can certainly see it, or the lack of it.

What is hertz for techies is fps for youngens.

 

[Parowdy]

watch my posted clip and find out that no iPhone capture this

Bro you have an iPhone SE 3, so a 2017 iPhone with a 2021 chip. iPhones only supported stereo since the 2018 iPhone XS. Are you saying what you’re saying because you never realized that your iPhone doesn’t have stereo recording?

 

[SpotOnT]

It'll probably sell just like previous SE products, maybe just slightly better. If it becomes a top 3 seller, it'll be a failure because Apple isn't aiming for cannibalization of the iPhone 15/16. The goal of 16e is to get XR/11 SE2 users to upgrade along with converting Android. That pool isn't very big to begin with.

Don’t forget employers. Company supplied phones always seemed like a big driver of the SE to me.

 

[ericwn]

They can always choose to buy phones of other brands

Yeah, just switch ecosystems, lose the Apple services and purchases etc and start fresh elsewhere, how convenient is that!

 

[FrozenDarkness]

i have never heard of it said this way before, "body action".

anyway, people complain all the time. that's what people do and have the freedom to do.

 

[just.in.time]

Honestly, if it had MagSafe and UWB chip it would be fine at its current price.

 

[Compote]

Trolling with a gaslight from the get go shouldn't be allowed in any sane and salubrious community.
I will never buy that piece of garbage, and the issue isn't the price.

For The price I would have gotten it had it had Magsafe and UW1.

The price isn't the issue. The issue is that it's garbage.

 

[Zazoh]

Phones are disposable. Buy one that suits your needs today and then when you need more, buy more. Many are treating this like an irrevocable life decision. It is not.

 

[Mike57000]

A phone with this old horrible notch in 2025? (till.. 2028?) : It's a no go of course !
And don't remind me this notch is also on my MacBook Pro M1. I've tried to get used of it several weeks, but no : I just can't work without being disturbed. I'm using TopNotch to make it disappear, waiting for a new MacBookPro design next year. I don't know if the same exist for iOS to tolerate this major design flaw.

 

[Racineur]

It'll probably sell just like previous SE products, maybe just slightly better. If it becomes a top 3 seller, it'll be a failure because Apple isn't aiming for cannibalization of the iPhone 15/16. The goal of 16e is to get XR/11 SE2 users to upgrade along with converting Android. That pool isn't very big to begin with.

I own an 11 and I was waiting te iPhone e to make a decision. I'll stay with my old faithful for these reasons' near 1100$ CDN for me. The specs are good for me but I'll spend more to have the real package. Instead buying right away, I'm doing like when I was a kid: save the money and buy probably this autumn. I guess my reaction confirms what Apple wants with 16e: judging it too expensive for an entry level and going right away to the real thing.

 

[Daniel L]

The 16e is just too big and heavy If Steve were still alive, and Jony back at Apple, we would have a fabulous small one-handed-operation SE4 ... it would look a million dollars and sell like hotcakes.

Sell like hotcakes like the iPhone mini?

 

[mansplains]

I purchased the new 16E. I was trying to get another year out of my 12 Pro Max but it died in a car accident and I no longer had Apple care covering that device. It was tough decision to go with the 16E for about six months till the 17 comes out or just purchase the 16 Pro Max now. For me I know the 16E will be a big upgrade over my old 12 Pro Max and that should hold me over till they release the new iPhone's this fall.

I am actually one in the minority I guess in the fact that I love big iPhones and I am a little worried that going down to 6.1 inches will be a hard adjustment. Still I like the fact that at least it's not as small as the SE. I just don't think I would have been happy getting a renewed SE (3rd GEN) off Amazon. Although it would have been much cheaper. Oh well hopefully Apple will give me a decent trade in on the 16E come September.

If you intend to get a 17 model in the fall, you could get an older/used/refurbished iPhone instead and save money. It’s up to you whether you want the shiny new device of course, but a little odd if you don’t intend to keep it. It’s also possible Apple won’t process 16e trades by then. They’ll lowball you either way.

 

[winxmac]

As I have said earlier:

Remember when iPhone XR got bashed by tech reviewers and YouTube content creators?

I don't know why the iPhone 16e announcement/launch was rushed when it should have been revealed in March or April 2025 but despite the starting price of USD 599, it will definitely follow in the foot steps of iPhone XR, iPhone 11 as the best selling iPhone of 2025.

Also, remember the W1 chip which got replaced with H1 then H2 chip? That seems to be a possibility with the C1 chip, although they cannot rename it as M1 since that has been used by MacBooks and iPads and M7 was first used in iPhone 5s as motion co-processor.

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...will-buy-the-iphone-16e.2449745/post-33748603
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...w-is-599-a-budget-phone.2449728/post-33748614

Now that it's been a few days, I think I know what e stands for. It's iPhone 16 but just the bare essentials.

Unlike SE which was supposed to or allegedly mean special edition.

 

[drugdoubles]

I think it’s difficult to prove this as times have changed and they were both innovators. They wouldn’t have continued to do the same thing, they would have changed with the times. You’re not giving them enough credit.

Cook is not innovator at all

 

[0423MAC]

Prepaid carriers are already showing some pretty good deals for this as long as you are willing to pay for the phone.

Visible $25 credit towards their visible plus plan for 24 months ($20 a month bill)
Boost Mobile free year of service

Postpaid deals should be even better. The 16e is a strange device because I think they should have just added the Dynamic Island to try and incentivize developers to target it a bit more across the whole lineup going forward.

 

[drugdoubles]

Honestly, if it had MagSafe and UWB chip it would be fine at its current price.

Of course the plan is why not pay more for at least regular 16

 

[rybak17]

Seriously? Not even 1% of buyers have any clue what "a 60 Hz screen in 2025" is.

Other phones in this price range already have 90-120 Hz screens. This is a noticeable compromise.

 

[drugdoubles]

Other phones in this price range already have 90-120 Hz screens. This is a noticeable compromise.

For tech people yes

 

[apocalyarts]

I think the only problem is the steep price. Apples pricing tiers and their approach to upsell you usually works, but you can already get the normal iPhone 16 with some good discounts.

In Germany that's somewhere around 830-850-ish € compared to Apples 949€ price tag. These discounts put the 16 far too close to the 16e. Sure, this will get sorted out in a few months with the first discounts hitting the 16e, but then you could get the iPhone 17 instead.

So I think with Apple's pricing tiers the 16e is about 100 bucks off, which makes it a tough sell.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

You'll see these as popular company issued phones I think, so it'll sell really well. The last thing businesses want to be buying now is Pro or standard level iPhones full of features employees will never use. We are in the era of cost saving and this device, although expensive, will most likely be offered on the better business deals.

 

[DrWojtek]

It'll sell very well for them. It's already been said a million times, this product is designed for your grandma and grandpa to finally upgrade once the carriers start throwing around cheap deals.

These people don't need anything beyond a solid phone that makes phone calls, sends texts, and lets them scroll facebook. You don't need an iPhone 16 for that. These people don't want to trawl eBay or Craigslist to get a second hand device. They just want to call up their carrier and say yes to any cheap offers and then get on with their lives.

"They don't need an iPhone 16 for that". Begs the questions, what do you need an iPhone 16 for? To scroll really fast and have less blur? To take ugly distorted wide-angle photos?

What you really don't need is the regular iPhone 16, now that this one exists. I for one would be embaressed to even be seen with those two camera lenses on my phone, now. I would probably just hide inside all day, posting slurs about the 16e on forums instead.

 

[Duncan-UK]

Phones are disposable. Buy one that suits your needs today and then when you need more, buy more. Many are treating this like an irrevocable life decision. It is not.

I’d love to have the income to view phones as disposable!

I’m still using my refurbed 8 plus which I bought from Apple in Jan 2019. I was waiting to see whether it’s worth getting the 16e but it has to be said it’s around £100-200 too expensive (looking at the 256gb version). Think I’ll try and get another 18 months out of the trusty 8. No compelling reason to upgrade atm.