It's more like, "they stole our technology and are applying it wrong" (in their opinion).
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Masimo CEO: Apple Watch Blood Oxygen Sensor is Not Reliable, Customers Are 'Better Off Without It'
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It's more like, "they stole our technology and are applying it wrong" (in their opinion).
I mean their market cap is 6B, at the end of the day Apple could buy them at 3x their mc with pocket change if it came to that
I don’t think Cook wants to settle this by owning Masimo though
lol, if that's the case then why sue? Is their own branded product not capable of competing because they're both crap? Sounds like that's what he's saying by saying "...they're better off without it".
You can play the game of who went to business school and who didn’t by reading the comments here…
Not trashing folk who didn’t but it is entertaining. I will say one thing, you can be the most astute business “man” in the world but all that goes out the window when an attractive woman enters their lives, or when their massive CEO egos grate up against each other. Cold, calculating successful people who always decide based on sound business decisions, throw it all out the window for irrational reasons. This could all just be about egos.
Tim Cook is also human. I wonder if he ever gets frustrated and yells and breaks things and throws them at walls. They all must, but that isn’t good for a leader’s image, so all you see is a static face and occasionally embarrassing attempts to dance or look hip. I’m sure someone actually told Tim Cook to look like he’s trying to be hip and fail at Apple events - because looking too hip works against that idea of control.
What would happen if Tim gave a business meeting smoking a fat joint and all spaced out like “Hey man, just chill and ride that mental wave to… Wow dude the colors, the colors….”
Anyway, you get the idea.
Not trashing folk who didn’t but it is entertaining. I will say one thing, you can be the most astute business “man” in the world but all that goes out the window when an attractive woman enters their lives, or when their massive CEO egos grate up against each other. Cold, calculating successful people who always decide based on sound business decisions, throw it all out the window for irrational reasons. This could all just be about egos.
Tim Cook is also human. I wonder if he ever gets frustrated and yells and breaks things and throws them at walls. They all must, but that isn’t good for a leader’s image, so all you see is a static face and occasionally embarrassing attempts to dance or look hip. I’m sure someone actually told Tim Cook to look like he’s trying to be hip and fail at Apple events - because looking too hip works against that idea of control.
What would happen if Tim gave a business meeting smoking a fat joint and all spaced out like “Hey man, just chill and ride that mental wave to… Wow dude the colors, the colors….”
Anyway, you get the idea.
My dad uses the AW oximeter and a couple of medical-grade ones he has lying around. The results from the AW one is no different than the medical ones.
What's interesting is that the output doesn't seem to have a lot of significance, clinically speakong. During covid they tried to use certain levels as a signal, but over time they realized that people can function perfectly well with what were considered impossibly low blood o2 levels.
Maybe for athletes it's useful.
What's interesting is that the output doesn't seem to have a lot of significance, clinically speakong. During covid they tried to use certain levels as a signal, but over time they realized that people can function perfectly well with what were considered impossibly low blood o2 levels.
Maybe for athletes it's useful.
Finally a person with reading and comprehending skill.
Thank you for giving me hope.
People have lost the ability to comprehend what they read.
Maybe this was obvious to others, but I just now realized that there are two separate W1 models, which do not have the same features: the W1 Sport, which I'd been looking at the specs on, is available now, and says that it's not approved as a medical device, but does have an FDA-approved "module"; and the W1 Medical, which apparently is FDA approved for both clinical and home medical use, but isn't on the market yet.
They visually look identical in the product photos, and have the same price tag, so I'm not sure if there are other differences or if they just changed the name due to FDA approval. It at least makes it more plausible to believe that the W1 sport is in fact professionally accurate but just didn't go through the FDA approval process.
They visually look identical in the product photos, and have the same price tag, so I'm not sure if there are other differences or if they just changed the name due to FDA approval. It at least makes it more plausible to believe that the W1 sport is in fact professionally accurate but just didn't go through the FDA approval process.
Correcting my previous comment, as noted above, that the W1 Sport available today isn't, but the "early 2024" W1 Medical is, explicitly.
You posted about Samsung being sued about Apple's design that they copied.
I'm at 98% even though my blood oxygen is too low I'm not allowed to give blood. I'm in the UK so I won't lose the app, won't use it either.
It must be a shock for Apple's American customers to have a product that doesn't have full functionality. Most Apple users outside the USA have had to deal with this for many years, all the while paying MORE for the same product.
The amount of whingeing on these threads is hilarious. As if more than one in ten actually used the feature in the first place.
The amount of whingeing on these threads is hilarious. As if more than one in ten actually used the feature in the first place.
Whatever for? It would just be a massive payday for Masimo's CEO and shareholders, and Apple is stuck with a bunch of tech they have no use for (since they don't deal with the medical industry directly). It would just be flushing good money down the toilet.
Of course the CEO of Masimo is going to say the O2 sensor in the Apple Watch doesn’t work…because he wants people to buy the watch from Masimo with the same sensor! 😂 I was going to finally upgrade my Apple Watch 6 to the Apple Watch Ultra this year…but I really like having the O2 sensor. So now I’m gonna hold onto the 6 for awhile longer. At least until Apple clears up this issue with Masimo. I hope that Apple doesn’t make the same mistake with the future Blood Glucose monitor tech they got from that Israeli company. Somebody at Apple dropped the ball with Masimo. They forgot to dot all their “i”s & cross all their “t”s on the contract. ✍🏼
Agree, but the readings are so far out at times that it’s basically a bit of fun and probably isn’t worth having. A £10 generic pulse oximeter from Amazon performs far more accurately.
I quite regularly show below 90%, as low as 83% only one reading and usually at lunch time.
That might be where the Apple watch isn't very accurate, but i'd suggest you go to the doctor anyway - I doubt it would have been actually 83%, you'd have passed out.
If they offer these features, I expect an Apple device to be reasonably accurate. To have a basic finger pulse oximeter perform better is not acceptable, get on the case Apple!
As has been said before:
Basing products or components of products on similar ideas, technology or the same patent does not make two products the same. The devil is often in the details of the implementation.
Knowing a recipe from a cookbook and buying similar ingredients doesn‘t guarantee to make you a master chef whose meals will be favourably received in fine dining establishments.
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I doubt apple forgot to dot anything. Not with 1b in legal fees. There are other, better plausible explanations, from malicious to benign, that can be discussed/argued etc.
Yes, Apple could easily do it but would it be worth doing? I don't think it would necessarily be the best solution (as the other poster seemed to be suggesting). I'm sure Apple has considered it, however.
They're suing because they feel Apple "stole" their technology.
What he is essentially saying is that customers are better off without Apple's application of the technology i.e., Masimo's technology is good but Apple's version of it isn’t, in his opinion.
