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Memory Leaks in Monterey?

After 18 days of uptime, I started to finally experience memory leaks again. Culprit for me is the Trello app - seems to trigger a memory leak in WindowServer.
Sitting at yellow memory pressure with the same workload yesterday that was in the green. Will probably have to sign out & back in…
 
FNH15 said:
After 18 days of uptime, I started to finally experience memory leaks again. Culprit for me is the Trello app - seems to trigger a memory leak in WindowServer.
Sitting at yellow memory pressure with the same workload yesterday that was in the green. Will probably have to sign out & back in…
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How do you know what app may be causing it? I didn't have this issue till last month but the past 2~3 weeks been a nightmare for me. I'd have to reboot every couple of hours and I do not want to wipe my system.
 
M.Rizk said:
How do you know what app may be causing it? I didn't have this issue till last month but the past 2~3 weeks been a nightmare for me. I'd have to reboot every couple of hours and I do not want to wipe my system.
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Was process of elimination for me. Fired up Trello, and noticed about 10 min later that the system was lagging. Activity Monitor confirmed that it was Trello, as when I quit it, the system became more responsive and WindowServer’s memory footprint decreased.
 
FNH15 said:
Was process of elimination for me. Fired up Trello, and noticed about 10 min later that the system was lagging. Activity Monitor confirmed that it was Trello, as when I quit it, the system became more responsive and WindowServer’s memory footprint decreased.
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I see. That probably means I'll never get to it as I have been using the same programs since day 1. I only started noticing this issue after installing a program that required Java runtime and I know Java is the plague so that is likely the reason.

Even though I deleted the program, and supposedly removed Java too the issue still exists.
 
Safari (Version 15.5 (17613.2.7.1.8)) memory leaks STILL on macOS 12.4 (21F79).
 

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systemstats still goes nuts on my M1 Macbook Air on 12.4. 12.4 seems to have fixed systemstats on my M1 iMac so I have no idea whats going on with that.
 

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foggygray said:
systemstats still goes nuts on my M1 Macbook Air on 12.4. 12.4 seems to have fixed systemstats on my M1 iMac so I have no idea whats going on with that.
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Likely you have different software installed on the two systems. I would be looking for old kexts.
 
Apple makes both the hardware and the software so… Things are so much less buggy compared to other platforms? 🤔
 
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Quality is a function of process.
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I guess so. I'm just thinking that the argument often is that Apple has full control over their products since they're the ones behind both the software and the hardware when it comes to their operating systems. Therefore I find it strange there (relatively often?) seems to be pretty obvious bugs and glitches not getting fixed.

But I don't use other operating systems that extensively, so can't really compare the stability in a fair way.
 
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I guess so. I'm just thinking that the argument often is that Apple has full control over their products since they're the ones behind both the software and the hardware when it comes to their operating systems. Therefore I find it strange there (relatively often?) seems to be pretty obvious bugs and glitches not getting fixed.

But I don't use other operating systems that extensively, so can't really compare the stability in a fair way.
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It doesn't matter what the product is or who makes it. Quality is a function of process.

Developers are rewarded for new features. Maintenance, fixing bugs, dealing with test system regressions and writing tests are considered tasks that you have to do along with development. But software engineering companies reward development. So what do you think developers focus on? In the extreme case, you go to a new project, do the development, get your rewards and then move to a new group so that you don't have to do maintenance and bugfixes for the code that you just wrote. That's how you maximize your financial rewards in software engineering. Doing successful new projects also gets you promoted.

If you want better quality, put in the process and the rewards to achieving quality.

In another extreme example, you have a development group develop a feature with no testing or minimal testing. Of course it falls all over the place when someone actually tries to use it. But you get your feature done on time and in the code. You then have to spend a lot of time actually writing tests and then fixing all the bugs. You can reward or punish this behavior but engineering companies tend to reward it from what I've seen. And that's why you generally have crappy software across industries.

But it's the same thing regardless of the product. You could have the same issue with cars, light bulbs or tennis racquets. You get what you incentivize.
 
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George Dawes said:
I don't blame you , I've got a 2015 imac and ever since I upgraded to monterey I'm having serious video issues .. terrible OS imo
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I have a late 2015 iMac that I've given up trying to sell through apparent lack of interest: I put Monterey on it to attract the punters - but it ran so much slower than the El Capitan it now has on it once again.
 
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I was worried it'd gone kaput , the screen was blank then it came on all the colours were wonky . Maybe the video card's on the way out ??

I'll get a mac mini M1 for my next mac , not mad about the whole integrated mac as when the screen goes you have to throw away the rest - even if its all ok ( had two iMacs in the last 20 years that happened to, you'd that thought I'd learned my lesson LOL )
 
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George Dawes said:
I was worried it'd gone kaput , the screen was blank then it came on all the colours were wonky . Maybe the video card's on the way out ??

I'll get a mac mini M1 for my next mac , not mad about the whole integrated mac as when the screen goes you have to throw away the rest - even if its all ok ( had two iMacs in the last 20 years that happened to, you'd that thought I'd learned my lesson LOL )
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😀

Out of interest, why are you on Monterey? Security / want the latest OS for the sake of it / etc? Are there no software compatability issues?

I have to admit - I tend to favour keeping the OS that came when the Mac shipped (I have a 2009 Mac Mini and a 2009 MBP both running Snow Leopard - though to be fair I don't really use them online).
 
Today I've experienced again a memory leak on Safari on the last beta. I reported them for the whole betas (+15 times) and just once they emailed Me asking to send the sysadmin diagnosis again and then never replied Me again.

I hope that with the money on the increasing prices for the whole iPad line and accessories they'll have enough money to hire more devs to fix bugs, because they're still a lot.

macOS 13 personal score so far 5/10 to be good.
 
Security , do a lot of on line banking etc , tbh wish I'd never bothered with the iMac and just kept it on the mini M1

Wow , snow leopard ... loved that one

In the old days things just worked seems nowadays they just don't ...
 
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