I love how everyone here just seems to be posting Zuckerberg disdain rather than actually reviewing his talking points. Talk about living in a bubble.
Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg today compared the Apple Vision Pro to the $500 Meta Quest 3 in an Instagram video, and provided several reasons why he thinks Meta's headset is better than Apple's.
According to Zuckerberg, the Quest 3 is better "for the vast majority of things that people use mixed reality for," and here are some of the things he said about the Meta Quest 3:
Zuckerberg said that he was surprised at the "tradeoffs" that Apple had to make to provide a higher resolution screen than is offered by the Quest 3, sacrificing "comfort," "ergonomics," and more. He went on to explain that Apple is not always the leader in a new product category, and that he hopes Meta's devices will ultimately "win."The Meta Quest 3 launched back in October. It has two 2K LCD panels compared to the Apple Vision Pro's 4K microLED displays. It weighs 515 grams while the Vision Pro weighs 600 to 650 grams, and it does not have a separate battery pack. It uses Qualcomm's Snapdragon XR2 Gen 2 chipset, has 8GB RAM, and is equipped with Touch Plus controllers.
- It's 7x less expensive than Vision Pro.
- It does high-quality passthrough with big screens "just like Vision Pro."
- Quest is a lot more comfortable - it's 120 grams less.
- There are no wires that get in the way when you move around.
- The field of view is wider and the screen is brighter.
- Vision Pro has motion blur when you move around. Quest is a lot crisper.
- Precision controllers are available, as is hand tracking, and Quest's hand tracking is more accurate.
- Quest's immersive content library is a lot deeper.
- You can watch YouTube or play Xbox.
Meta has produced several headsets so far, including the Oculus Quest, the Oculus Quest 2, the Quest 3, and the Quest Pro. Apple plans to continue producing headsets, and rumors suggest that the next-generation version will be much more affordable. When explaining the price of the Vision Pro, Apple CEO Tim Cook said that it was "tomorrow's technology today."
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Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg Says Quest 3 is Better Than Apple Vision Pro
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Here's a hot take: they're both crap!
It's a luxury thing no one needs and the utility is limited on both.
It's a luxury thing no one needs and the utility is limited on both.
He is right in some ways, as someone who owns both devices. But he is wrong and misleading in his framing. He says the Q3 is better at things that "people do in MR/VR" - that is only true because the Q3 is good at gaming, which is the only thing people do in MR/VR up until last week (at least in the consumer space.)
The thing is - I pick up my AVP now when I go to work on my laptop on the couch, or in the kitchen, as the ergonomics are way better than looking down at a laptop screen, plus I can have my main workspace dedicated to xcode, and floating slack/email/messages windows out of the way only for when I need to look at them.
I tried using the Q3 for the same purpose over the last few months and there were major issues - first, the screen resolution which just isn't high enough. Your virtual displays look like 1080p at best, whereas on AVP it is somewhere between 1440p and 4k IMO. Second - the integration. Even on windows you have to install a bunch of random software to get a virtual desktop on your screen - and you will try out every version (Immersed, Virtual Desktop, Meta Workrooms, etc.) and every version has major pros and cons. Some have no flexibility on desk setup. Some have passthrough. Some have keyboard passthrough, some show your hands, some don't. Each one has different hand controls to learn. And then - you are looking at passthrough of your PC. There are no other apps that you can really use (Yes there are ways to install android apps, but then you get into all kinds of compatibility issues.)
What I'm ultimately saying - is I pick up my AVP and am connected to my mac and working in 10 seconds. In the Q3, that is a 2-3 minute process...so I rarely use it (In addition to the other pitfalls above.) Yes, the Q3 is way better at gaming...and I think maybe gaming will come with time. I could see Apple releasing "official" VR controllers when the normal "Vision" device comes out. For V1 you don't want to split your userbase into those with controllers and those without.
The thing is - I pick up my AVP now when I go to work on my laptop on the couch, or in the kitchen, as the ergonomics are way better than looking down at a laptop screen, plus I can have my main workspace dedicated to xcode, and floating slack/email/messages windows out of the way only for when I need to look at them.
I tried using the Q3 for the same purpose over the last few months and there were major issues - first, the screen resolution which just isn't high enough. Your virtual displays look like 1080p at best, whereas on AVP it is somewhere between 1440p and 4k IMO. Second - the integration. Even on windows you have to install a bunch of random software to get a virtual desktop on your screen - and you will try out every version (Immersed, Virtual Desktop, Meta Workrooms, etc.) and every version has major pros and cons. Some have no flexibility on desk setup. Some have passthrough. Some have keyboard passthrough, some show your hands, some don't. Each one has different hand controls to learn. And then - you are looking at passthrough of your PC. There are no other apps that you can really use (Yes there are ways to install android apps, but then you get into all kinds of compatibility issues.)
What I'm ultimately saying - is I pick up my AVP and am connected to my mac and working in 10 seconds. In the Q3, that is a 2-3 minute process...so I rarely use it (In addition to the other pitfalls above.) Yes, the Q3 is way better at gaming...and I think maybe gaming will come with time. I could see Apple releasing "official" VR controllers when the normal "Vision" device comes out. For V1 you don't want to split your userbase into those with controllers and those without.
The problem is the Vision Pro is not good for productivity. When you send your Mac display into it, you only get one screen. That’s hardly productive, especially when you can’t actually see your keyboard or a visual representation of iPhone, that’s a dead product.
Using these comparisons to champion a DOA product like the Vision Pro is reality distortion at its finest
I like how people base a products success on how version 2 and 3 will do. **** apple
You can watch YouTube.... 🤣
what a ****...
Also with quest 3 you get free Tracking of everything you do! Haha
what a ****...
Also with quest 3 you get free Tracking of everything you do! Haha
looking solely at that comment through the lens of a business perspective...
He's doing his job of highlighting the pros of his company's product and services vs that of the AVP and Apple.
That's literally his one of his tasks as the CEO.
BTW.. I have neither.. just making a statement..
Would Tim Cook dare to start off the comparison with..
"yes the AVP does cost 7 times more but......."
probably not...
He's doing his job of highlighting the pros of his company's product and services vs that of the AVP and Apple.
That's literally his one of his tasks as the CEO.
BTW.. I have neither.. just making a statement..
Would Tim Cook dare to start off the comparison with..
"yes the AVP does cost 7 times more but......."
probably not...
I love how people complain about social media selling their data but those same people have social media..
Even looks wise the quest looks well plastic and disturbing while the Vision Pro looks sleek and futuristic.
No, he’s most likely just saying that because LCD panels are brighter than OLED panels
In the real world nobody cares and actually when it comes to screens that are right up against your eyeballs it’s probably a good thing they’re not as bright
Looks like Zuck is celebrating in France !
The thing that kills me is Zuck isn't even honest about what his headset does. Look at all the Quest commercials showing things that literally aren't doable on his own headset. It's ridiculous and literally, not figuratively, should be labeled as false advertising.
My watch costed me 2000$, i can easy get one that can tell the time for 200$ i can also find one that costs 20.000$
al of them tells the time all of them looks nice.
that aside, i dont think Appels product is meant to be for everyone, just like that 20.000$ watch is not ment to be for the masses.
I think Apple will carve out a segment, perhaps the first product will only sell to thouse who make 10x what i do but there are plenty of rich people that will buy it.
then next gen will be something else... i think....
al of them tells the time all of them looks nice.
that aside, i dont think Appels product is meant to be for everyone, just like that 20.000$ watch is not ment to be for the masses.
I think Apple will carve out a segment, perhaps the first product will only sell to thouse who make 10x what i do but there are plenty of rich people that will buy it.
then next gen will be something else... i think....
The fact that Zuck tries to even compare the two shows he's not even remotely aware of the product differences. I personally don't even consider them competing products, they just share a similar form factor and that's about it.
The fact that he thinks they're the same products suggests to me he's not the target audience for the Vision Pro. One is a spacial computing system, one is a gaming VR headset.
We can hate all we want, obviously someone is using the Meta Apps and products.
And i get if I you personally don't use any Meta Apps or products but obviously billions around the world do to some extent....
We all hate rich people but also want to be rich...Hypocrisy at it best..
And i get if I you personally don't use any Meta Apps or products but obviously billions around the world do to some extent....
We all hate rich people but also want to be rich...Hypocrisy at it best..
If you don't mind looking like you're wearing a jockstrap on your face, you should definitely buy it. Or a VisionPro, for that matter!
Lighter and better yes. Cheaper likely Not unless there is a reduced function version.
Until it lights up and shows the fake eyes, then it's a clown show.
They both look ridiculous.
You're an early adopter. You're buying into a vision. You should be expecting some things that you cannot otherwise do (the unique capabilities), some glitches/deficiencies that need to be ironed out, but not something where you can do a simple price/value comparison. That's the point where you get mass adoption. The early adopters should basically cover the R&D costs
I'd also be interested in a technical comparison from someone who has spent time with both devices. Less expensive devices can be better/more usable than more expensive ones, or just "good enough" for their purpose
REALLY??????
My local pet shop says that this mouse;
Is better at controlling a computer than this mouse;
I don't disagree.
well this is boneheaded thinking.. does that mean Apple has the excuse that Oculus will just always be better because it's always 2 gens ahead?