iPhone X MIA: Notch haters

[Deacon-Blues]

The notch is a very unfortunate design element that I can do nothing about. It isn't going anywhere, and in fact its presence is expanding.

I'm showing the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

 

[Ralfi]

Do you really want people to keep complaining just so you think they're not MIA?

You & I are on completely different wavelengths.

Notchsure how you came to that conclusion.

The notch complaints were a nuisance (& petty imo) but humorous at the same time.
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If I could snap my fingers and make it go away, I would.

Save the finger snapping for another couple of years & it'll work

I skipped the X last year and bought a 8+. This year, I'm not buying any iPhone and instead, I bought a Note 9. No notches for me.

Ludicrous. Giving up on a preferred ecosystem just due to phone design. Surely there's more to this.

The bezels are at least symmetrical. And they don't overlay fullscreen video.

But then the speaker grills aren't symmetrical now, so how would you handle that conundrum?

 

[thecore762]

I wasn’t a fan of the notch, but after upgrading to the iPhone XS Max from my 7 plus I rarely ever notice it anymore.

 

[jamezr]

The thread's for people who have actually had a change of heart when it comes to possibly the biggest overreaction to an iPhone design element in memory.

Those who hold onto the same opinion as last year can say so, but it's not really aimed at them.

well...to be honest that is just your opinion of things now isn't it.....
The thread is useless and should be closed.....it is like fake news at this this point now.....

 

[TooDarkPark]

You & I are on completely different wavelengths.

Notchsure how you came to that conclusion.

The notch complaints were a nuisance (& petty imo) but humorous at the same time.
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Save the finger snapping for another couple of years & it'll work



Ludicrous. Giving up on a preferred ecosystem just due to phone design. Surely there's more to this.



But then the speaker grills aren't symmetrical now, so how would you handle that conundrum?

I don't prefer iOS anymore, that's what you're missing. I stopped being excited about each years iPhones about 5 years ago.

I bought a Note 9 on AT&T about three weeks ago and with that phone, I was so excited to get it. I even bought a second Note 9 on my T-Mobile line. For the third line, I have a S9+. I voted with my wallet this year. No iPhone.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

So basically the OP has started a thread to poke fun at posters who expressed a dislike for the notch last year. Labelling views as an overreaction, petty, and a nuisance whilst insinuating that their own view is actual fact. It’s doesn’t work like that though does it?

 

[TooDarkPark]

So basically the OP has started a thread to poke fun at posters who expressed a dislike for the notch last year. Labelling views as an overreaction, petty, and a nuisance whilst insinuating that their own view is actual fact. It’s doesn’t work like that though does it?

Basically.

 

[bleak7]

Except it literally is both ways. You do realize it’s only like that if you specifically zoom it in, right? Otherwise you can still watch videos at the same rectangular size as the iPhone 8 version. Actually, when it’s a wider aspect ratio than 16x9, and not zoomed, it’s still bigger than the 8, because it doesn’t have the gigantic bezel restrictions. And you’ll still get all of the extra space within other apps. Meanwhile, a non-zoomed 16x9 will look exactly the same on both. Scratch that, it will look way better on the X/XS due to OLED and HDR.

I don’t even like the notch, but I still just don’t get how people don’t understand this. You’re clinging to the past for reasons of pure pettiness.

The fact that you can't zoom in because the content of anything displayed is then interfered with (movie, image) doesn't make it alright. It's a good excuse to make though. The point about the notch is not how big everything looks and how nice it is to have small bezels. The bezels on any phone have nothing to do with the screen area, because they never interfere with said area, unlike the notch. So stop mixing two things together (repeat): the size of the phone and the bezels of it, have NOTHING to do with the screen space, except when that screen space is physically affected by said area.

And do I even need to point out the irony between saying that you "accepted the notch and wasn't told to" while telling people that want an actual non-interfered with screen they are "clinging to the past"? It's this stuff that will put me in stitches when the notch eventually gets removed. Even if it happens in 100 years from now, I'll roll in my grave laughing at comments like these.

Even more hilarious is the way Apple wants to make you think you're getting more space (and then forward that opinion without really thinking twice). You see this comparison?
https://stephanelarue.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/ac6d5c0b-f105-4a66-8e00-ffb5bce52339.jpg
Even if you can say that they just want to point out screen size, the image itself used, if you actually view the image on the left phone with the phone on the right? It would actually be just as cut and EVEN MORE at the top. Now of course it was taken with full view as on the right, then zoomed in on the left phone, but it does. not. realistically. depict. the. screen. space. You can just zoom out the image on the left and it would look the same, just on a smaller screen.

And again, yes you get smaller bezels, and if that's what you care for, then great. But the screen space suffers from this and that's why the notch is dumb idea.

 

[redman042]

When I bought the X last year, I was never worried about it, but it did take me a week or two to fully get used to it. Now, my eyes don’t ever focus on it anymore. It’s like it isn’t there.

Of course I do look forward to the no notch edge to edge iPhone, when the tech gets there.

 

[Ralfi]

to be honest that is just your opinion of things now isn't it.....

The evidence is all over this forum from a year ago. I'm curious at what's changed those people's minds.

It's a legitimate & light-hearted thread with a bit of banter here & there. Please don't try to turn it into something else...

The thread is useless and should be closed

Just don't enter the thread if it's that hard for you. The rest of us are having a discussion...

I don't prefer iOS anymore, that's what you're missing. I stopped being excited about each years iPhones about 5 years ago.

Thanks for clearing that up. The 'ludicrous' in my post wasn't meant to be a slur on you, just the reasoning, which I admit was a presumption since there was no elaboration.

So basically the OP has started a thread to poke fun at posters who expressed a dislike for the notch last year. Labelling views as an overreaction, petty, and a nuisance whilst insinuating that their own view is actual fact. It’s doesn’t work like that though does it?

No. Just go along with what 99% of posters have done & discussed the topic at hand & responded to the OP with informative & light-hearted comments...

For some reason, a minority have gotten defensive, which there was no need for.

When I bought the X last year, I was never worried about it, but it did take me a week or two to fully get used to it. Now, my eyes don’t ever focus on it anymore. It’s like it isn’t there.

Of course I do look forward to the no notch edge to edge iPhone, when the tech gets there.

That's the thing - it's only a stepping stone toward what we all want; a full, bezel-less screen.

People who think those who don't mind the notch are massive fans of it are way off - of course we all don't want it there, but it's allowed Apple to create a small form factor with a larger screen compared to their prior gen phones.

 

[Mike Richardson]

I found the lack of a home button more annoying than a notch.

Last year I was in a Comcast store that had a bunch of iPhones on display.

I picked up the iPhone X and opened some app and then could not figure out how to get out of the app.

I put down the phone and walked away.

The home button was extremely logical and simple. No matter where you were or what you had done, that button gave you an immediate out, a guaranteed return to the springboard.

No one had to read a manual or Google stuff to know how to use the home button.

Just read this article on how many different ways you can swipe to do stuff: https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/why-you-wont-miss-the-home-button-on-the-iphone-x-theunlockr/

If you want the such and such, stand on your head while holding the phone at a 12 degree angle, whistlng dixie, and swipe in a counter-clockwise circle on the top third of the screen. Sheesh. Half the time, the Control Center doesn't even come up for me and I thought that was a pretty simple gesture.

I've owned an iPhone since the very first day it came out, and currently have an iPhone SE.

 

[Sir Ruben]

I think people have come to understand that it's either a notch or a full bezel across the top and a chin at the bottom. In fact, some copycat Android phones that have incorporated a notch STILL have a chin at the bottom too. Apple are doing it right with the technology available today it's as simple as that.

 

[Mike Richardson]

Also, I am sorry, but I think this advertisement is deceptive as hell.

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They have chosen and positioned the image shown very deliberately. The notch is completely gone. What magic!

Not having other information about the phone, it would be reasonable to assume from viewing this ad that Apple had somehow developed the "full screen bezel-less" phone.

In some other countries, I would not be surprised if this ad winds up being pulled, or not even aired at all.

Never mind what you think about the bezel. Advertising should not be so blatantly deceptive.

I will say this about the notch though: at least it helps you to orient the phone. We're all probably going to be screwed if they do come out with a notch-less design, unless Apple decides to have speakers and microphones at both ends (and then, orientation is still going to fail some non-zero percentage of the time).

FFS the name of the ad is even called "Illusion"!

 

[FFR]

I found the lack of a home button more annoying than a notch.

Last year I was in a Comcast store that had a bunch of iPhones on display.

I picked up the iPhone X and opened some app and then could not figure out how to get out of the app.

I put down the phone and walked away.

The home button was extremely logical and simple. No matter where you were or what you had done, that button gave you an immediate out, a guaranteed return to the springboard.

No one had to read a manual or Google stuff to know how to use the home button.

Just read this article on how many different ways you can swipe to do stuff: https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/why-you-wont-miss-the-home-button-on-the-iphone-x-theunlockr/

If you want the such and such, stand on your head while holding the phone at a 12 degree angle, whistlng dixie, and swipe in a counter-clockwise circle on the top third of the screen. Sheesh. Half the time, the Control Center doesn't even come up for me and I thought that was a pretty simple gesture.

I've owned an iPhone since the very first day it came out, and currently have an iPhone SE.

How did you get to the home screen when you picked up the iPhone?

Don’t know why you would require a manual to swipe up?

Also, I am sorry, but I think this advertisement is deceptive as hell.

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They have chosen and positioned the image shown very deliberately. The notch is completely gone. What magic!

Not having other information about the phone, it would be reasonable to assume from viewing this ad that Apple had somehow developed the "full screen bezel-less" phone.

In some other countries, I would not be surprised if this ad winds up being pulled, or not even aired at all.

Never mind what you think about the bezel. Advertising should not be so blatantly deceptive.

I will say this about the notch though: at least it helps you to orient the phone. We're all probably going to be screwed if they do come out with a notch-less design, unless Apple decides to have speakers and microphones at both ends (and then, orientation is still going to fail some non-zero percentage of the time).

FFS the name of the ad is even called "Illusion"!

Except the ads wanted to highlight the lack of a chin. I guess it worked because you didn’t notice that.

 

[Ralfi]

I've owned an iPhone since the very first day it came out, and currently have an iPhone SE.

I think you would've loved a gesture-based SE phone, as they'd be easy to learn & within reach of just about anyone on that smaller form factor. It's a shame they didn't make the Xr in an SE size & dropped the price significantly...but I'm thinking from a consumer point of view, not a profit POV as Apple is.

I put down the phone and walked away

I'm picturing you doing this & thinking of this. Lol.
(No I'm not laughing at Mike, for those looking to tear this thread down).

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

No. Just go along with what 99% of posters have done & discussed the topic at hand & responded to the OP with informative & light-hearted comments...

For some reason, a minority have gotten defensive, which there was no need for.

I don’t sense you meant it as light hearted when you followed it up with dismissive comments that suggested anybody who said they didn’t like the notch was a ‘nuisance’ and ‘petty’. Personally I don’t need to be defensive as my opinion is just that. I don’t own a phone with a notch anyway but my opinion on its aesthetics is as valid to me now as it was 12 months ago. The point here is design is subjective and no amount of you dismissing others views will make anything factual from either side.

 

[circatee]

As much as I like the lack of a Home Button, I must say, it will be interesting how the older generation accepts iPhones going forward.

Alas, I digress.

Ps: as I stated earlier in this thread; the notch does not bother me...

 

[jdsmitty10]

I’m brand new to the notch. I don’t mind it at all. It gives me a place to tap to go back to the top eaiser(less reach without using reach ability). I like how the time and signal info is tucked up there. Looks good to me. The way you go from certain sides for diff pull downs is nice too.

 

[Ralfi]

I don’t sense you meant it as light hearted when you followed it up with dismissive comments that suggested anybody who said they didn’t like the notch was a ‘nuisance’ and ‘petty’.

Every second thread was a repeated like the one above it...ad nauseum. We only needed one thread, but we got 100+ full of the same comments.

& it was petty imo, (& I did state "imo"), as IMO it was way overblown, as evidenced by the reduced number of complaints this year & the responses in this thread.

You're saying I'm being dismissive, yet this thread is full of those who may not feel the same as they did a year ago, & lets them explain why...

 

[Deguello]

You & I are on completely different wavelengths.

Notchsure how you came to that conclusion.

The notch complaints were a nuisance (& petty imo) but humorous at the same time.

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But then the speaker grills aren't symmetrical now, so how would you handle that conundrum?

You wrote, "Where art thou, Notch critics? " That's how I came to the conclusion that you were trying to stir up this asinine discussion again.

I handle the "conundrum" of asymmetrical speaker grills by spending my time looking at my screen, not my speaker grills. On what planet are those two things even comparable?

 

[Deeds500]

OP what makes you think the notch haters have gone MIA? We are still here. But what is the point of complaining about it if Apple's intention is to continue with the ugly cut out for the next couple of years, at least?

The notch is a compromise. Yet some people here will have you believe it's an added feature. It's a compromise because Apple do not have the technology as yet to avoid the notch. Once they figure out how to make Face ID work through the screen, the notch will be gone forever. And good riddance.

if people just accepted that the notch is a compromise, then we would all be in agreement and there would be nothing to argue about. Yet some of the justifications for the notch that I have read on here borders on ridiculous. For instance, one poster wrote last year that he 'loved' the notch because it let everyone else know he was holding an iPhone X. Wonder what his justification is now that a lot of android phones have a notch?

If we can all agree that it is better to have Face ID work through the screen and thus have no notch and no bezels than to have the notch, then there won't be an argument. Yet we all won't agree on this because there will still be some posters who will go to the extreme to argue that the notch is a value added feature. For example, a poster said earlier in this thread that the notch lets him know which end is the top and which end is the bottom. Seriously?

The bottom line is, the notch is a compromise, and an hindrance for the battery signal, a hindrance when watching videos in landscape or playing games in either portrait or landscape mode where the game requires full use of the screen.

And to all you people who 'love' the notch because, gee I dunno, it gives you stuff to do when you're bored, such as peek through the notch to look at all the sensors, you better get used to the idea that eventually, the notch will be gone. Maybe not next year, or the year after, but it will be gone. As soon as Apple works out how to get the sensors to work through the screen, they will. And when that happens, hallafarkenloulia.

And in 15 years time when the iPhone screens are immaculate, bezel free and notch free, we will look back on the notch for the cringeworthy cut out that it was. I'm tipping it will be the key talking point at the first keynote to unveil the notchless iPhone. You just wait and see. I'll put money on it.

 

[Eagle1337]

hate the notch (still do) skipped iphone x because of the small screen (much smaller in real life than iphone 6-7-8 plus) and now bought the Max as all other companies now also rolling the notch. so i think theres no way around it until they figure out how to put the sensor behind the screen

the Max screen feels approx the same size as my old Huawei 5,9" mate 10 lite, so its not too small like the x was.

 

[Ralfi]

The notch is a very unfortunate design element that I can do nothing about. It isn't going anywhere, and in fact its presence is expanding.

I'm showing the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

so i think theres no way around it until they figure out how to put the sensor behind the screen

Kudos. It'll eventually go. But for now, it's serving a purpose of maximising screen size in a smaller form factor.

Give it a couple of generations? (Let's hope).

 

[1369281]

I can't unsee the guy in the Samsung Galaxy commercial with the notch hair. They did a perfect job of illustrating how stupid the notch looks.

 

[AlphaGuitarist]

I don't mind the notch. I'd prefer it not to be there, but I've grown used to it.