iPhone X MIA: Notch haters

[Mike Richardson]

How did you get to the home screen when you picked up the iPhone?

Don’t know why you would require a manual to swipe up?

When you are on the lock screen, it literally says, "Swipe up to open". That's simple enough.

I had no expectation that would work to get to the home screen from within an app. Swiping up means "control center". I didn't care for the control center, I wanted the home screen.

Actually, if I recall, I think I went to settings first, because I wanted to poke around and see if it actually had an Xfinity SIM and was activated. I'm not sure how I got out of there, maybe by accident or something. Then I tapped something else, maybe a game or something stupid like that. The whole interaction was less than a minute.

In iOS 10 they removed slide to unlock. I think it was maybe 3 months before I wasn't actually trying to slide to unlock anymore. I tend to use devices by memory. For example, I don't have to look at a (QWERTY) keyboard, but I can tell you where basically every key is. So, I would pick up the phone, and without even thinking, press the home button and then slide my finger to unlock it. So for months, this caused some undesired thing to occur. It was immensely frustrating.

The point is, at least for me. Changing how stuff like the unlock works, the home button (or lack thereof), positioning of buttons, etc. is basically akin to changing the layout of the keyboard. If someone came into my office and installed a Dvorak keyboard, I would probably set fire to it.

I think you would've loved a gesture-based SE phone, as they'd be easy to learn & within reach of just about anyone on that smaller form factor. It's a shame they didn't make the Xr in an SE size & dropped the price significantly...but I'm thinking from a consumer point of view, not a profit POV as Apple is.

It's sad, but there has been a subtle general... decline since Jobs died. I think, just in all aspects of the business.

It'll be interesting to see what an iPhone SE 2 amounts to, if anything.

I'm picturing you doing this & thinking of this. Lol.
(No I'm not laughing at Mike, for those looking to tear this thread down).

LOL that's actually not so inaccurate.

As much as I like the lack of a Home Button, I must say, it will be interesting how the older generation accepts iPhones going forward.

Do I come off as older or something? I'm 30. (the use of "Internets" below is a tired joke I make from time to time)

Yes, when I was 18, I stood in line for the new iPhone. I made a few bucks in high school selling shareware. I remember having to do pre-paid, because they wanted some absurd deposit.

Kudos. It'll eventually go. But for now, it's serving a purpose of maximising screen size in a smaller form factor.

People watch a lot of video on phones. Videos are not going to be made with notches in them. Videos are shown in a smaller area of the screen (at least they did when the X came out, according to the various Internets). You would get more viewing area for videos if it was just a small "forehead" at the top, and maybe without the rounded corners (I assume another reason for showing video in a smaller area).

But, I generally agree. The notch is a temporary... thing.

For example, a poster said earlier in this thread that the notch lets him know which end is the top and which end is the bottom. Seriously?

Dunno if you were referring to me, but yeah, seriously. Looking straight down onto a "full screen bezel-less" iPhone, how would you pick up the phone? If a call is incoming, then it's obvious, but if the phone is off, and you want to pick it up to make a call, what information is available that allows you to orient the phone? (Again, this assumes that Apple does not do something like putting speakers and microphones on both ends, but still again, orientation errors occur a non-zero percentage of the time, so inevitably you will answer a call and have the sound coming out of the bottom with the other end getting to hear your ear).

I'm not saying that it's a justification for the notch - but it does provide that information.

 

[Seanm87]

for all the complaining about the notch on the X series phone I don’t think I’ve even noticed it all. Why is it such a big deal to some?

 

[eyoungren]

for all the complaining about the notch on the X series phone I don’t think I’ve even noticed it all. Why is it such a big deal to some?

Nah, not really.

I have noticed the huge assed, fugly camera boil that's just gotten bigger and bigger since the iPhone 7 and is now a massive design element.

The notch pales in comparison to that.

 

[iapplelove]

haha welcome to last November, it’s what I keep telling people

 

[Otflyer]

Don’t notice the notch either. Phone is in case so camera bump is also mute issue.

 

[Mr.C]

Nah, not really.

I have noticed the huge assed, fugly camera boil that's just gotten bigger and bigger since the iPhone 7 and is now a massive design element.

The notch pales in comparison to that.

Whilst I don’t really like the notch and prefer if it wasn’t there I can understand why it’s there and the need for so I’m prepared to put up with at least for now.

As for the camera yours is one of the many exaggerated comments I read. It’s not as big as you make it out to be. Yes it’s not ideal and it would be nice if it was flush or close to it. That said it’s a lot better then the cameras on Android phones.

 

[AddisonIII]

I think more people bought the X series and realized it's a non issue. Which it is. People that have used it will all attest that you don't even notice it after a few minutes.

It's a none issue for me. Way to many other things in life to worry about.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

The notch is a nine issue for me. I don’t even notice it on the 8+

 

[eyoungren]

Whilst I don’t really like the notch and prefer if it wasn’t there I can understand why it’s there and the need for so I’m prepared to put up with at least for now.

As for the camera yours is one of the many exaggerated comments I read. It’s not as big as you make it out to be. Yes it’s not ideal and it would be nice if it was flush or close to it. That said it’s a lot better then the cameras on Android phones.

That's interesting, because all the Android phones I see lately tend to have flush cameras. There are a handful that do not for sure, but for the most part they are all flush with the casing.

Yes, I exaggerate, but on the other hand, pull out a 6/6s and lay it next to a 8, X or XS. The camera bump has increased in size. When you lay out the 7+ and 8+ you can see it's even bigger. Hell, the bump on those two looks like Bender's face (the robot from Futurama). The X series phones just takes that and makes it vertical.

So, yeah. I exaggerate, but I don't think by much.

 

[BugeyeSTI]

The notch is a nine issue for me. I don’t even notice it on the 8+

Well considering over 30% of the screen on the 8+ is bezel I’m not surprised you don’t notice it...

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Well considering over 30% of the screen on the 8+ is bezel I’m not surprised you don’t notice it...

Exactly, I don’t even notice the bezels like some of the obsessives here so the notch wouldn’t be a real world problem. Remember the days when we used to look at our screens before we got distracted by bezels and notches that draw our eyes away? Those were the days.

 

[BugeyeSTI]

Exactly, I don’t even notice the bezels like some of the obsessives here so the notch wouldn’t be a real world problem. Remember the days when we used to look at our screens before we got distracted by bezels and notches that draw our eyes away? Those were the days.

I can remember using a Motorola Razr! That phone was just meat and potatoes.. Loved that phone

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

That's interesting, because all the Android phones I see lately tend to have flush cameras. There are a handful that do not for sure, but for the most part they are all flush with the casing.

Yes, I exaggerate, but on the other hand, pull out a 6/6s and lay it next to a 8, X or XS. The camera bump has increased in size. When you lay out the 7+ and 8+ you can see it's even bigger. Hell, the bump on those two looks like Bender's face (the robot from Futurama). The X series phones just takes that and makes it vertical.

So, yeah. I exaggerate, but I don't think by much.

I must admit I have come across very few people in this world that complain about raised camera bumps on mobile phones. Most people use a case and 0.5mm camera bump just fades into insignificance. People simply want slim phones with good cameras so it’s a minor inconvenience IMO. Just like the notch, it doesn’t look great but serves a purpose.

 

[StellarVixen]

Adaptation period has passed. That doesn't mean that people like the notch now, they just learned to live with it.

 

[eyoungren]

I must admit I have come across very few people in this world that complain about raised camera bumps on mobile phones. Most people use a case and 0.5mm camera bump just fades into insignificance. People simply want slim phones with good cameras so it’s a minor inconvenience IMO. Just like the notch, it doesn’t look great but serves a purpose.

Oh, I've admitted more than once that I am in a minority.

A double minority if you count the fact that I do not use cases.

It's purely an aesthetics thing on my part. Most people don't consider what their phone looks like when they buy it. They are purchasing it for what it can do. I already know the phone can do what I need it to do, so I am buying based on looks.

I always find that interesting because few people buy cars that way. Otherwise the car manufacturers wouldn't spend so much time on designing how cars look.

But a phone? No, no one looks at that twice. Except maybe me.

 

[Superrjamz54]

The notch is a horrible design. Still is. Samsung does full screen displays right IMO. But if you want IOS then this is it. It's not a turn around, it's no other choice. And the haters are still there. The threads are still going.

Full screen with one full rows of icons on it and still have to pinch to zoom on videos with bigger bezels.

 

[MattMJB0188]

Think of the notch like the ugly antenna band that went across the iPhone 6's design. What did Apple eventually do? They refined it... just look at the 8. I just pray the next redesign won't have a notch. Then you have all these people that are like... "oh the notch doesn't bother me, I'm used to it." Yeah ok, you know it really does and they have to justify their purchase some way.

The X series is not an option for me until the notch is gone and the home button is restored. I guess that means I could never get a new iphone again.

I'm the guy who never got the phone that would have been worth the hype... the iPhone 9.

 

[44267547]

for all the complaining about the notch on the X series phone I don’t think I’ve even noticed it all. Why is it such a big deal to some?

You’re Reading too much on the Internet, that’s why. And in the outside world, I have never even mentioned or spoken with anyone regarding the notch. You can’t take everything you read on Macrumors or on any tech site quite literally, because you will have those who are way more particular about certain iPhone design elements. That’s just the nature of being on a tech site.

 

[stafil]

When I saw X announced last year I thought the notch was super ugly and would get in the way.

Then I used the X, and I wouldn’t even notice the notch.

Having said that, it’s still ugly as is the camera sticking out on the back. And an edged to edge display without a notch would definitely be better.

But it doesn’t really annoy me.

 

[sdwaltz]

I hated the idea of the notch and Face ID when they were announced last year and bought an 8 plus because of it. I truly felt Apple was going the wrong direction both in function and design.

This year I saw a XS Max in-store and loved it so much I bought one immediately (I had come into Best Buy for something else, go figure). Face ID itself is fantastic, and as far as the notch, I didn’t fundamentally understand how well Apple had tailored iOS in terms of dealing with it on the software side. I barely even notice it and I now struggle with the legacy home button if I have to use someone else’s phone.

In short: I’m definitely a notch convert.

 

[brgjoe]

Uh-huh. Right.

You claim not to notice the notch. But I'd be willing to wager that once Apple finally does get rid of that BUN (Big Ugly Notch), 99% of you folks who say, "Gee I don't notice a notch" will be first in line to pick up that notchless phone.

And then most of you will be saying, "See, Apple has a notchless phone! They do notchless better than anybody else! Suck it, Android notch users!"

 

[Ralfi]

Uh-huh. Right.

You claim not to notice the notch. But I'd be willing to wager that once Apple finally does get rid of that BUN (Big Ugly Notch), 99% of you folks who say, "Gee I don't notice a notch" will be first in line to pick up that notchless phone.

And then most of you will be saying, "See, Apple has a notchless phone! They do notchless better than anybody else! Suck it, Android notch users!"

It'll be a sad day for sure.

I might hold onto my notched iPhone & wait for the full screen edge to edge era to end.

 

[OTACORB]

I think people have made a much bigger deal in regard to the notch then it really is. Honestly I don't even notice it so it make me wonder is I just the idea of the notch or do people really just get stuck looking at it? I suspect we'll see the notch for the 2019 phones before they perhaps do something different. I think they may try to minimize it some.

When Apple decides to go notchless again, then they will and folks will buy those just like the buy the ones with the notch. Much to do about nothing!

 

[Ralfi]

OP came to the conclusion that everyone loves it now and the only answers to the poll question are supportive of that conclusion, there is no way to offer a dissenting view in that poll besides using "other" which is still supportive since the question is based on the conclusion that people like the notch now.

This thread was only aimed at those who have changed their minds.

Current haters need not reply, as they've had their say.

Genius eh?
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My only beef with the notch was watching videos in full screen... All other uses of the phone I don't even notice it to be honest.... and the whole watching videos thing I've gotten used to it and barely notice its there any more.
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the thread subject and Poll title will tell you who the poll is geared towards..... Notch haters... whats caused you to now accept the notch if a person was a notch hater and has NOT accepted it then this poll is not for them. simple

Bingo. Thank you.
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The thread subject is saying there are no notch haters now and asking where they are.....

Nice try?

That's why I chose the words "we hardly see anyone complaining", which doesn't mean 'no one is complaining'.

Ok?
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Still hanging on to my 6S Plus here - I haven't succumbed to the notch - there should be an option on your poll for that!

Sorry bud. Not aimed at you.
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"Haters"?

Yep. You know, the one's who overreacted hysterically in 2017.

The more measured detractors need not take my tongue in cheek term seriously.
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but ubiquity forced upon the innocents

LOL.

Nobody would accept this crappy design on a TV.

Nobody holds a TV in their hand.

 

[x-evil-x]

its a tradeoff for a full screen phone. Id take it over having the bezels of all other iPhones. But it was not a design element. Its just a middle ground as technology progresses because you'll know they will do away with it with its possible. It will bring more sales too. A lot of people will upgrade if they get a real full screen phone with no notch. I know I will and that will be the #1 reason.
Ill put up with it in the meantime.