Moving to Android

[jwolf6589]

Anyone else planning on moving to Android once Apple switches to USB-C? Might as well have an Android at that point. Looking at the Lively Jitterbug Smart3.

Why move to the Android virus? (that’s a joke). USB-C will be a good move as my iPad also uses it.

 

[jwolf6589]

Currently experimenting with a Pixel 6A at the moment:

Good things:

• Price. Really cheap handset
• Performance. Performance is pretty good.
• USB-C. This is notably a good thing
• In screen finger print reader. Thought this was a gimmick but I really like it. It's better than FaceID.
• The main camera is actually better than my iPhone 13 Pro
• Arguably better selection of open source applications

Bad things:

• Most of Android
• Google
• Android
• Google
• Did I mention Google and Android enough times?

Better than Face ID?????

 

[Spock]

I remember when lightning came out... on the iPhone 5. It is time to let it go, it is not that good anymore. I also find it amusing that you are switching to Android because the iPhone is becoming like Android

 

[ricketysquire]

My first thought whenever someone wants to switch to Android from Apple

 

[I7guy]

Don’t need 30 cents per cable?

You’re thinking like a consumer, not a multinational, trillion dollar corporation.

-Look up the number of iPhones worldwide and then come back here and tell me that 30 cents per cable doesn’t matter.

Apple’s first priority is money and MFi is a great source of extra revenue without much effort beyond the initial r&d.

I’m sure they’ll find a way to do some kind of limitations to charging and data transfer speeds since they can’t use their arbitrarily proprietary (USB 2.0 in disguise) Lightning ports post 2024.

I think it’s funny in a not humorous way that people tell apple what they should and shouldn’t make in terms of revenue.

Choice is good. If one doesn’t like apple the company, the politics of the company, the management or their politics , the products, the price of the products competition abounds.

 

[maxrest]

Better than Face ID?????

That must be personal preference haha I doubt it’s objective since it’s been shown that a lot of the in screen fingerprint readers aren’t as accurate/fast/secure as FaceID.

 

[MBAir2010]

Im switching from a
Lamborghini AVENTADOR LP 780-4 ULTIMAE Millionaire Blue
to a
1972 Pinto yellow with body rust and an 8-track with a decay'n rodent in the carbs....
whadda think?

 

[Danfango]

Better than Face ID?????

Actually yes it surprised me. I find that FaceID doesn't always work reliably. In fact it is regularly a pain in the ass when I'm paying for stuff. Whereas this finger print reader is actually pretty spot on, in the correct place on the device (unlike the iPad 10th gen) and much faster.

 

[olimerkido2]

I couldn't resist the joke, see you next month 😉🤣

 

[Donsell]

Don’t need 30 cents per cable?

You’re thinking like a consumer, not a multinational, trillion dollar corporation.

-Look up the number of iPhones worldwide and then come back here and tell me that 30 cents per cable doesn’t matter.

Apple’s first priority is money and MFi is a great source of extra revenue without much effort beyond the initial r&d.

I’m sure they’ll find a way to do some kind of limitations to charging and data transfer speeds since they can’t use their arbitrarily proprietary (USB 2.0 in disguise) Lightning ports post 2024.

I don't begrudge a company making a buck. My problem is when they purposely cripple a product only to make a buck. In this case their R&D when into how to make things worse for the consumer so they could charge to get back to industry standard performance.

 

[WoodTableFromIkea]

Anyone else planning on moving to Android once Apple switches to USB-C? Might as well have an Android at that point. Looking at the Lively Jitterbug Smart3.

Ah yes. Switching to an entirely different ecosystem because of a port… This forum has been overrun by bots and ChatGPT prompts.

 

[Knowlege Bomb]

Im switching from a
Lamborghini AVENTADOR LP 780-4 ULTIMAE Millionaire Blue
to a
1972 Pinto yellow with body rust and an 8-track with a decay'n rodent in the carbs....
whadda think?

I fixed up a Honda Civic with a decaying rodent in the headliner. Much better than the engine bay as you get that faint smell when you get in.

 

[russell_314]

Apple’s first priority is money and MFi is a great source of extra revenue without much effort beyond the initial r&d.

Of course MFI makes Apple money and like every corporation Apple's primary goal is to make money. Apple isn't a charity. On the other hand consumers get their 30 cents worth and more with MFI. Look at the mess USB-C cables are and look at MFI Lightning cables. USB-C cables are getting better but it's still a mess. From the start MFI Lightning cables did what you expected them to do.

 

[h.gilbert]

Currently experimenting with a Pixel 6A at the moment:

Good things:

• Price. Really cheap handset
• Performance. Performance is pretty good.
• USB-C. This is notably a good thing
• In screen finger print reader. Thought this was a gimmick but I really like it. It's better than FaceID.
• The main camera is actually better than my iPhone 13 Pro
• Arguably better selection of open source applications

Bad things:

• Most of Android
• Google
• Android
• Google
• Did I mention Google and Android enough times?

Good idea, I'll do my thoughts as someone who switches between the two OSs fairly frequently. Currently using a Redmi Note 10 Pro

Pros of Android

• Exceptional value. 120Hz 6.67" AMOLED, 1200 nits, HDR10, 1080p screen, 5000mAh battery, 33W fast charging, SD slot and dual SIM, IP53, 108MP 1/1.5" main camera sensor, stereo speakers, headphone jack all for for $300.
• App flexibility. App not available in your region? Can easily be found outside Google playstore. Saved me a few times.
• USB-C, just need one charger.
• Fingerprint sensor more convenient than FaceID.
• Notification system is better.

Cons

• Mix of Xiaomi and Google accounts and settings makes everything very confusing. Same issue with a Samsung, Motorolla, etc etc. Pixel is better in this regard as it's just pure Google.
• USB-C I find to be less reliable than Lightning. Both my Androids have had issues with intermittent charging down the line. Lightning feels like a more robust connection, never had an issue.
• Terrible support compared to iPhone. Even $1k plus flagship Android phones only get 4 years of OS updates max. My Redmi will get about two years of OS updates in total. However at only $300, I can just sell and buy a new mid-range Android when it runs out of support.
• Apps feel less polished, e.g. not full utilizing the whole screen.
• As a mac user obviously iPhone just integrates much better. iCloud, universal clipboard, airdrop etc.

 

[russell_314]

I don't begrudge a company making a buck. My problem is when they purposely cripple a product only to make a buck. In this case their R&D when into how to make things worse for the consumer so they could charge to get back to industry standard performance.

It's only crippled for the small percentage that use a cable for data transfer. Switching to a new format will anger and upset customers more because they need to buy new accessories. When Lightning came out android phones were using micro USB. No one misses micro USB and it's great that Apple didn't go that route. Apple just took way too long to move to USB-C from a tech nerd perspective like myself but the average consumer would prefer to use their existing cables. Out of all my friends who have any preference one way or the other the only ones that have a strong opinion are ones that have android phones. I find it amusing.

Even though I don't use cables for file transfer I'm wanting Apple to rip this band aid off so I can toss my Lightning cables in the bin and use one type. It's not going to be an improvement other than oh no I pulled the wrong cable out of my bag so I need to grab the other.

Oh Apple isn't going to lose any money from MFI... You really think Apple won't have MFI certified USB-C cables? Look up the rumors on this. Apple is going to put a similar chip in the cables. 🤣

 

[jwolf6589]

Good idea, I'll do my thoughts as someone who switches between the two OSs fairly frequently. Currently using a Redmi Note 10 Pro

Pros of Android

• Exceptional value. 120Hz 6.67" AMOLED, 1200 nits, HDR10, 1080p screen, 5000mAh battery, 33W fast charging, SD slot and dual SIM, IP53, 108MP 1/1.5" main camera sensor, stereo speakers, headphone jack all for for $300.
• App flexibility. App not available in your region? Can easily be found outside Google playstore. Saved me a few times.
• USB-C, just need one charger.
• Fingerprint sensor more convenient than FaceID.
• Notification system is better.

Cons

• Mix of Xiaomi and Google accounts and settings makes everything very confusing. Same issue with a Samsung, Motorolla, etc etc. Pixel is better in this regard as it's just pure Google.
• USB-C I find to be less reliable than Lightning. Both my Androids have had issues with intermittent charging down the line. Lightning feels like a more robust connection, never had an issue.
• Terrible support compared to iPhone. Even $1k plus flagship Android phones only get 4 years of OS updates max. My Redmi will get about two years of OS updates in total. However at only $300, I can just sell and buy a new mid-range Android when it runs out of support.
• Apps feel less polished, e.g. not full utilizing the whole screen.
• As a mac user obviously iPhone just integrates much better. iCloud, universal clipboard, airdrop etc.

Oh yes it’s much better when one has all apple devices.

Iphone
Applewatch
Mac
appletv
iPad

 

[russell_314]

Good idea, I'll do my thoughts as someone who switches between the two OSs fairly frequently. Currently using a Redmi Note 10 Pro

Pros of Android

• Exceptional value. 120Hz 6.67" AMOLED, 1200 nits, HDR10, 1080p screen, 5000mAh battery, 33W fast charging, SD slot and dual SIM, IP53, 108MP 1/1.5" main camera sensor, stereo speakers, headphone jack all for for $300.
• App flexibility. App not available in your region? Can easily be found outside Google playstore. Saved me a few times.
• USB-C, just need one charger.
• Fingerprint sensor more convenient than FaceID.
• Notification system is better.

Cons

• Mix of Xiaomi and Google accounts and settings makes everything very confusing. Same issue with a Samsung, Motorolla, etc etc. Pixel is better in this regard as it's just pure Google.
• USB-C I find to be less reliable than Lightning. Both my Androids have had issues with intermittent charging down the line. Lightning feels like a more robust connection, never had an issue.
• Terrible support compared to iPhone. Even $1k plus flagship Android phones only get 4 years of OS updates max. My Redmi will get about two years of OS updates in total. However at only $300, I can just sell and buy a new mid-range Android when it runs out of support.
• Apps feel less polished, e.g. not full utilizing the whole screen.
• As a mac user obviously iPhone just integrates much better. iCloud, universal clipboard, airdrop etc.

This is a great write up on this. I agree with all of this but have a few thoughts.

My thoughts are I find FaceID better than fingerprint because if my hands are the least bit oily, damp from washing, or dusty the fingerprint sensors don't work for me. Of course I haven't tried the fancy under glass sensors. I've used the side button sensors on Samsung phones,old style iPhones, my iPad and MacBook. I don't even have a fingerprint setup on my iPad anymore because it just doesn't work for me. I realize that's more of a issue specific to me and maybe not other people. The only time Face ID has failed me was in some weird direct sunlight conditions. I think it's the angle of the phone to where the sun is. It's not as fast as fingerprint but that doesn't bother me.

I worry about USB-C being less durable. I find the Lightning port to be very durable to the point it will break the prong off the cable before it damages the port. I had this happen a while back when I had a battery pack plugged into my phone and both were in my pocket. I worry if it was USB-C the port would have gotten damages. It doesn't look as robust with that thin connector in the middle. Also it looks like it's going to be more difficult to clean.

Also that integration is awesome. I miss it when I'm using my Chromebook or Windows PC.

 

[Euroamerican]

I was all "gonna quit you" when Apple dropped the firewire port on the iPod. Then I got the new iPod with the big color screen and found out that it didn't matter whether it was firewire or the new connector style. I didnt' really even use the iPod much in the long run.

 

[h.gilbert]

This is a great write up on this. I agree with all of this but have a few thoughts.

My thoughts are I find FaceID better than fingerprint because if my hands are the least bit oily, damp from washing, or dusty the fingerprint sensors don't work for me. Of course I haven't tried the fancy under glass sensors. I've used the side button sensors on Samsung phones,old style iPhones, my iPad and MacBook. I don't even have a fingerprint setup on my iPad anymore because it just doesn't work for me. I realize that's more of a issue specific to me and maybe not other people. The only time Face ID has failed me was in some weird direct sunlight conditions. I think it's the angle of the phone to where the sun is. It's not as fast as fingerprint but that doesn't bother me.

I worry about USB-C being less durable. I find the Lightning port to be very durable to the point it will break the prong off the cable before it damages the port. I had this happen a while back when I had a battery pack plugged into my phone and both were in my pocket. I worry if it was USB-C the port would have gotten damages. It doesn't look as robust with that thin connector in the middle. Also it looks like it's going to be more difficult to clean.

Also that integration is awesome. I miss it when I'm using my Chromebook or Windows PC.

Fingerprint vs FaceID is a difficult one. I love the side mounted fingerprint reader that's integrated into the power button of my Redmi. As I pull it out of my pocket, my thumb just subconsciously feels for the power button and I press it. By the time it's out in front of me it's already unlocked. As you say it isn't as reliable as FaceID, however I got annoyed with FaceID being slow and having to point the phone towards you to unlock. So on balance, I prefer the side mounted finger print sensor.

 

[compwiz1202]

Didn't understand the question, but I already switched my main to Android, so I chose Android.

 

[h.gilbert]

Oh yes it’s much better when one has all apple devices.

Iphone
Applewatch
Mac
appletv
iPad

I'm sure it is but I unfortunately (or fortunately?) don't have a need for appletv, watch, or ipad. Just a phone and computer for me. When I went from iPhone to android the only thing I missed was universal clipboard. I like for my note taking app and open browser tabs to sync between phone and computer and having an Android isn't a problem on that front.

 

[Danfango]

I'm sure it is but I unfortunately (or fortunately?) don't have a need for appletv, watch, or ipad. Just a phone and computer for me. When I went from iPhone to android the only thing I missed was universal clipboard. I like for my note taking app and open browser tabs to sync between phone and computer and having an Android isn't a problem on that front.

Yep.

What locks me into Apple is really:

• Family all have iOS devices now so shared calendar and reminders
• iMessage
• Photos.app
• Apple Music
• iCloud+ handles my domain.

Anything else I could leave in a heartbeat.

 

[jimimac71]

This being an Apple oriented site, I'm not surprised at those who dislike Android.
I only have a Lively (Jitterbug) Flip 2. I only need a phone, and seldom need that.
My iPad is annoying. The only benefit is the touch sensor.
Otherwise I am very happy with my Nokia T20.
I'm using my PC right now with the best ad blocker around. Otherwise I'd be flooded with ads.
Yes, Google ads.
MacRumors survives because of Google advertising.
Google could care less who you are, they just want to sell you something.

 

[Andeddu]

The only reason I stick with Apple is because of iOS. I use an Android device for work and it stinks.

If iOS was universal, I would probably use a Pixel 6A purely due to aesthetics as Apple phones are not exactly pretty compared to some Androids.

 

[jlwarlow]

Anyone else planning on moving to Android once Apple switches to USB-C? Might as well have an Android at that point. Looking at the Lively Jitterbug Smart3.

I don’t understand that. With my current iPhone I wireless charge and use AirPod Pros; the connector is hardly used. The only time I do use it is in the car - so lightning/USB-C doesn’t really matter. It’s the OS and eco-system that counts for me and I prefer Apple. I’ve had Android in the past and it’s likely to stay that way.