Has the ridiculous waste of space in the playlist header got any better? That annoys me all the time, especially when using my 14" MPB without an external monitor.
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Music - Missing Features, Bugs, Issues & Troubleshooting (Sonoma)
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Hey guys. I wanted to share a negative experience I experienced with the Music app today. I have submitted a bug report and I am basically copying its content here – would be curious to see if others have had similar issues.
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I used to have an Apple Music subscription via my career (EE). I cancelled it and instead decided to subscribe to Apple Music with Apple directly. After the cancellation, all songs in my Music Library got greyed out (understandable, as there was no active subscription). I then went to re-subscribe to Apple Music (via my iPhone). The Music app on the Mac didn’t register the new subscription so I had to sign out and sign back into my Apple account in the Music app.
This worked, however, as my music library got synced, the latest playlist I had created only got about half of the songs that should have been there. The songs were appearing fine on my iPhone (running iOS 17) and the other MacBook Pro (running Ventura 13.5) I have. I tried to move a song around, hoping that this will trigger a resync, however, this didn’t happen.
Then I decided to delete the playlist altogether (which is unfortunate because there are people who have added it to their libraries and they will get a partial playlist now). This, expectedly, immediately deleted the playlist for all of the devices. I tried to access the now deleted from my library playlist with the share link I had from before – this opened the playlist with half of its content deleted, which meant that somehow it had synced on the web with what I was seeing on the macOS Sonoma before deleting the playlist, however, as I mentioned before, the other 2 devices were displaying the full content.
Then I tried to start adding the songs back to the now newly created playlist. I tried with the first song and I can see it appearing on the rest of the devices, as well as on the web interface (music.apple.com and beta.music.apple.com), however, it doesn’t appear on the MacBook where the problems first started.
I have tried removing the Apple Music app cache, and turning off and on the Sync Library option – seems like none of this works. After a bit of a wait, I turned on and off the Sync Library option again and it seems like the song appeared. However, now the artwork is not syncing between devices. And, knowing that the issue first started after a resync of the Music Library, I feel very uncomfortable to have to this manually several times, hoping that I will eventually get all of the content. This, as you can understand, is definitely not the intended behaviour. I know Sonoma is in Beta and bugs are expected, however, I feel like the iCloud services must be somewhat reliable.
I spend time putting these playlists together and it is upsetting when I share them with people only so that the playlists start having their content dynamically changed because of bugs in iCloud. Not only that, as I said, I am happy to delete the playlist and start over, however, even this seems to be not working correctly, as I am again getting different results on macOS Sonoma and rest of the consumers which is highly undesirable because I have no idea what the state of the playlist is and how the synchronisation will happen and what others will eventually see.
I guess this might be an intermittent issue, however, I feel like the user should not be left with the impression that their data has been lost. I would really appreciate if we had some sort of indicator that could show the status of the sync. I would not expect to see different content in the same music library across different devices without any information whether the data is stale and means for a manual resync.
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I used to have an Apple Music subscription via my career (EE). I cancelled it and instead decided to subscribe to Apple Music with Apple directly. After the cancellation, all songs in my Music Library got greyed out (understandable, as there was no active subscription). I then went to re-subscribe to Apple Music (via my iPhone). The Music app on the Mac didn’t register the new subscription so I had to sign out and sign back into my Apple account in the Music app.
This worked, however, as my music library got synced, the latest playlist I had created only got about half of the songs that should have been there. The songs were appearing fine on my iPhone (running iOS 17) and the other MacBook Pro (running Ventura 13.5) I have. I tried to move a song around, hoping that this will trigger a resync, however, this didn’t happen.
Then I decided to delete the playlist altogether (which is unfortunate because there are people who have added it to their libraries and they will get a partial playlist now). This, expectedly, immediately deleted the playlist for all of the devices. I tried to access the now deleted from my library playlist with the share link I had from before – this opened the playlist with half of its content deleted, which meant that somehow it had synced on the web with what I was seeing on the macOS Sonoma before deleting the playlist, however, as I mentioned before, the other 2 devices were displaying the full content.
Then I tried to start adding the songs back to the now newly created playlist. I tried with the first song and I can see it appearing on the rest of the devices, as well as on the web interface (music.apple.com and beta.music.apple.com), however, it doesn’t appear on the MacBook where the problems first started.
I have tried removing the Apple Music app cache, and turning off and on the Sync Library option – seems like none of this works. After a bit of a wait, I turned on and off the Sync Library option again and it seems like the song appeared. However, now the artwork is not syncing between devices. And, knowing that the issue first started after a resync of the Music Library, I feel very uncomfortable to have to this manually several times, hoping that I will eventually get all of the content. This, as you can understand, is definitely not the intended behaviour. I know Sonoma is in Beta and bugs are expected, however, I feel like the iCloud services must be somewhat reliable.
I spend time putting these playlists together and it is upsetting when I share them with people only so that the playlists start having their content dynamically changed because of bugs in iCloud. Not only that, as I said, I am happy to delete the playlist and start over, however, even this seems to be not working correctly, as I am again getting different results on macOS Sonoma and rest of the consumers which is highly undesirable because I have no idea what the state of the playlist is and how the synchronisation will happen and what others will eventually see.
I guess this might be an intermittent issue, however, I feel like the user should not be left with the impression that their data has been lost. I would really appreciate if we had some sort of indicator that could show the status of the sync. I would not expect to see different content in the same music library across different devices without any information whether the data is stale and means for a manual resync.
Working in macOS 14 beta 5 (23A5312d) (Intel VM, SIP enabled)
iTunes 12.6.5.3 (Internet radio & local media) and iTunes 12.9.5.5 (local media)
iTunes 12.6.5.3 https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/itunes-12-6-5-3-on-apple-silicon.2354390/post-31329608
iTunes 12.9.5.5 https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/itunes-12-6-5-3-on-macos-catalina-10-15.2184518/post-32010794
iTunes 12.6.5.3 (Internet radio & local media) and iTunes 12.9.5.5 (local media)
iTunes 12.6.5.3 https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/itunes-12-6-5-3-on-apple-silicon.2354390/post-31329608
iTunes 12.9.5.5 https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/itunes-12-6-5-3-on-macos-catalina-10-15.2184518/post-32010794
Still different alignment and sizing of the lossless logo (local library vs Apple Music browser). Why can't these look the same? LMAO
I'm on latest Sonoma public beta (Apple Music version 1.4.0.98). I'm not sure if this is a beta specific issue because I don't have other stable Mac to test.
I feel the "love" feature for album has not been working correctly (at least not aligned with iOS version) for a while:
1. If I mark an album as loved on macOS, the status becomes "loved" but it doesn't show up in a smart playlist containing loved album. The status will disappear after restart Apple Music and it doesn't show up on iOS version either.
2. If I mark an album as loved on iOS, everything looks correct on iOS. It will sync to macOS, but the album status still is not marked as loved. Instead, every song in the album will be marked as loved. Sometimes this will sync back to iOS and the status of songs are polluted, but sometimes it won't sync back. I don't know when and why.
I'm not sure if this is iCloud sync issue and specific to my account.
I feel the "love" feature for album has not been working correctly (at least not aligned with iOS version) for a while:
1. If I mark an album as loved on macOS, the status becomes "loved" but it doesn't show up in a smart playlist containing loved album. The status will disappear after restart Apple Music and it doesn't show up on iOS version either.
2. If I mark an album as loved on iOS, everything looks correct on iOS. It will sync to macOS, but the album status still is not marked as loved. Instead, every song in the album will be marked as loved. Sometimes this will sync back to iOS and the status of songs are polluted, but sometimes it won't sync back. I don't know when and why.
I'm not sure if this is iCloud sync issue and specific to my account.
Please can someone check if this issue has been fixed in the latest beta? It’s my only real day-to-day issue with the music app, it’s really annoying having to re-sort the column every time!
Tell me about it. I had presumed when they moved to a native view with the browser the same native view would be applied for local content. You know exactly how it works on iOS.
Can’t believe we’re still waiting for this.
There's a bug in 23A5312d where the clock and Control Center just vanish from the menubar after waking from sleep.
If you run into this, you can get it back without rebooting with the Terminal incantation:
killall ControlCenter
You don't have to be root, just do it as yourself. Anyway, just saving any others dealing with this from unnecessary reboots. Carry on.
If you run into this, you can get it back without rebooting with the Terminal incantation:
killall ControlCenter
You don't have to be root, just do it as yourself. Anyway, just saving any others dealing with this from unnecessary reboots. Carry on.
Again. You are in the wrong thread.There's a bug in 23A5312d where the clock and Control Center just vanish from the menubar after waking from sleep.
If you run into this, you can get it back without rebooting with the Terminal incantation:
killall ControlCenter
You don't have to be root, just do it as yourself. Anyway, just saving any others dealing with this from unnecessary reboots. Carry on.
On version 1.4.0.118 now, still not fixed. Now I realize that the issue might be that my macOS stops to upload to cloud library but only download. That might be why the change on macOS can't be persistent. Once in a while when it pulls data from cloud library, local change gets overwrited. Also even the download side seems slow, like the change on my iPhone will sync to my iPad in seconds, but it takes minutes for my macOS.
Yeah this is easily the worst change they made, I absolutely hate it.
I'm seriously furious about this. The iOS-ification of macOS continues. There's no reason for it at all and it ruins the user experience. The only workaround is to make smart playlists for each month or year and then you're limited to songs in list view.
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Just sort your main library by Date Added?
Or create your own specialised Smart Playlist like always? View as album and it's exactly the same as the the Recently Added view (which I have removed from the sidebar in favour of my own).
You can't.
Or they can just keep the Recently Added section the same, like always. Again you cannot sort by the date it was added so this isn't an adequate workaround.
There's no such thing as "Album date added" as individual tracks can be added from the same album at any time.
That's just being a jerk. What the hell, Apple. 🤬
You can't display the albums in a grid view like Recently Added though. It's annoying to scroll through thousands of songs. Love those Four Tet tracks though.
