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Klschmann

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Not much difference between Big Sur and Montereys in term of the Music App - IMHO the Monterey version works better seems more polished and has no new issues - at least in my case use - which is managing my ripped and purchased music files and syncing to my iphone
Good to know, thanks! I'm wondering how many of these bugs are for folks with Apple Music subscriptions?

Truth be told, aside from migrating everything from a PC a few years ago, I've rarely had any issues with iTunes or the Music app so either I'm using it incorrectly or it just works for me.

Aside from not being able to hide the Apple Music tab (which does seem weird), I'm ok with pretty much everything else I've read so I'm sure I'll update eventually.
 
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Jack Neill

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I agree. Any changes to the Music app are probably 'Under the Hood' kind of updates as opposed to feature or front-facing changes. I've got a VERY large library (86,723 Tracks / 898.67 GB!) and for me, Catalina was SUPER slow & Buggy. And with a Library that size, you'd probably say I should expect that. When Big Sur was released (after the initial bugs & my switch to an M1 MBP), I couldn't scroll thru my Library under the Artists, Albums, Songs, or any other view without Beachballs and usually just a complete crash of the Music app. Once I got to macOS 11.6, though, Music was totally fine. I could scroll thru any of my categories pretty quickly without issue. And now on Monterey, things seem to be even quicker and more responsive. I've noticed Match has been matching almost 100% of the tracks I add to my library, too.
I have the same experience although my library is a measly 560GB and not 900... I really dislike how I can't turn off Apple Music in the app anymore but I think the scrolling is even improved over Big Surs app which was much better than the Catalina app. I am trying to not really use the Music app on anything except 1 Catalina Hackintosh and my M1 Air, I have been using iTunes with Retroactive on every other machine I have. iTunes 12.9.5 is still my go to if I can get it.
 
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Russell L

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Apologies if this has been mentioned already, but....."Join CD tracks" seems to be broken. Just went to rip a CD and wanted to join several tracks, but the option is greyed out. I'm doing nothing different than before, but now with Monterey this no longer works.

I'm on a 16" Intel MBP (2019), if that makes any difference........

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Nightfury326

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I’m convinced it’s an Automator ‘Smart Folders’ issue. I have a few Smart Folders setup to add to specific folders in my Photos App Library, like a Desktop Background folder and a Screenshots folder. I can just drag a photo to the Desktop Backgrounds folder and it adds to the folder that cycles thru for my Desktop Backgrounds. Or if I take a Screenshot, it gets added to my library right away so it gets synced to my iPhone or iPad.

Since moving to Monterey those folder actions have been hit or miss. It makes sense then to think one of Apple’s own Smart Folders could be screwed up, too. It might be possible to just create a new Smart Folder for the Music app, too. But I’m gonna wait it out.

I tried to make a new Smart Playlist and it won't download music I purchased from the artist- over a decade ago. I have a ton of music.

Also have an ABBA smart playlist, that's now missing everything but the latest Voyage, and a few songs from Arrival as opposed to having every ABBA piece of music I've ever bought through iTunes with it.

Edit- The Music app on my phone has all the ABBA music on it on it. But for the other artist I have to manually make a playlist with all his music on it.
 
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justafew

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I tried to make a new Smart Playlist and it won't download music I purchased from the artist- over a decade ago. I have a ton of music.

Also have an ABBA smart playlist, that's now missing everything but the latest Voyage, and a few songs from Arrival as opposed to having every ABBA piece of music I've ever bought through iTunes with it.

Edit- The Music app on my phone has all the ABBA music on it on it. But for the other artist I have to manually make a playlist with all his music on it.
I had something similar happen and figured out the reason behind was due to the Album Artist and/or Artist Sorting field. Mine was with a band named KIX. In my Smart Playlist, I had a criteria for KIX. However, only one album appeared in the playlist on my Mac. But on my iPhone and Android, all of the albums/songs appeared in the Smart Playlist. It was really odd and so I kept searching for what would cause this.
Under Get Info, Sorting - I found that on some albums, the sort artist was KIX (all caps), on others the sort artist was Kix. My playlist criteria was for KIX. I updated the sort artist to KIX for all albums/songs and then all songs appeared properly in my Playlist on Mac and my devices.

This happened with another band called dc Talk. Again, the playlist was set up with dc Talk, but nothing appeared on my Mac, yet they were on my devices. In the Sort Artist field, it showed as DC Talk. I changed it to dc Talk and voila - all songs now appeared in the Smart Playlist on all devices incudling the Mac.

YMMV but I hope this helps
 
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Mattyman

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Is the copy and paste function from the edit menu in music to actually copy the music file itself or the information. The support in the music for macOS website suggests it will copy the information in the song view, but for me it physically copied the music file. Can anybody confirm if they experience the same as me please. Thanks
 

Nightfury326

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I had something similar happen and figured out the reason behind was due to the Album Artist and/or Artist Sorting field. Mine was with a band named KIX. In my Smart Playlist, I had a criteria for KIX. However, only one album appeared in the playlist on my Mac. But on my iPhone and Android, all of the albums/songs appeared in the Smart Playlist. It was really odd and so I kept searching for what would cause this.
Under Get Info, Sorting - I found that on some albums, the sort artist was KIX (all caps), on others the sort artist was Kix. My playlist criteria was for KIX. I updated the sort artist to KIX for all albums/songs and then all songs appeared properly in my Playlist on Mac and my devices.

This happened with another band called dc Talk. Again, the playlist was set up with dc Talk, but nothing appeared on my Mac, yet they were on my devices. In the Sort Artist field, it showed as DC Talk. I changed it to dc Talk and voila - all songs now appeared in the Smart Playlist on all devices incudling the Mac.

YMMV but I hope this helps

In the Mac Music app- All the old albums I bought from this artist (the digital versions of some albums from 1962 by Johnny Crawford)- They refuse to show up on my Mac App- but on my iOS app I was able to create my own playlist and every album shows up. Even the more recent Jazz one I imported myself shows up

It shows up as "Purchased" on the iTunes store, but refuses to even download. 🤷‍♂️

Idk what bug is affecting it- Also tried Retroactive, but it's (iTunes 12) is crashing at the moment, but I don't feel like restarting right now.

Edit- I didn't notice, but under "View"- it only wanted to show "Downloaded music" by default- instead of showing "All Music". See what happens.

Edit before I post- They all showed up.😃
 

person s

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a new issue that has come as a surprise
when I transfer music from my MacBook Pro to my iPhone I am regularly getting the wrong album art
if I delete the album for the phone, then transfer it again, it frequently has the wrong album art again - a different album, still wrong
this problem has arisen before, but much more frequently since iOS 15 and MacOS Monterey
 
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ProMod

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I'm having an issue with a brand new MacBook Pro running 12.0.1 where the "Automatic Downloads" preference will not stay checked. After clicking OK and returning to the preferences, it's unchecked again. Any ideas?
 

jkelol111

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I'm having an issue with a brand new MacBook Pro running 12.0.1 where the "Automatic Downloads" preference will not stay checked. After clicking OK and returning to the preferences, it's unchecked again. Any ideas?
I can confirm the same issue is happening on 12.0.1 and 12.1 B1. My feedback’s ID is FB9703363 if you do submit a feeeback.
 

ProMod

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Good to know, actually! I was *this* close to reinstalling the OS in place. I suspected the bug showed up during the 12.0.1 update. I tried deleting the plist, toggling on and off Sync Library, signing out of iCloud and back in. Oddly, the same behavior is present in the Apple TV app, and preferences will not stay checked in the App Store either. @jkelol111 do you have that same behavior in other apps as well?
 
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michael31986

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Can’t understand why I have to restart my mac for the finder to let me hit “sync” on my iPhone. Doesn’t work until I restart the max book.

Is this a bug
 

RednBlue

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I'm having an issue with a brand new MacBook Pro running 12.0.1 where the "Automatic Downloads" preference will not stay checked. After clicking OK and returning to the preferences, it's unchecked again. Any ideas?
Strange. Not happening with 2015 MBP running Monterey beta 12.1......Intel vs Apple M1 thing?
 

ProMod

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Strange. Not happening with 2015 MBP running Monterey beta 12.1......Intel vs Apple M1 thing?
Maybe. I’m starting to think this bug cropped up during the 12.0.1 update. I’m having a handful of other weird issues as well, so I’m going to reinstall the OS in place and see what happens.
 

J.Gallardo

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macOS 12 Monterey 12.1b2 - Music 1.2.1.29
Revision history:
macOS 12 Monterey 12.1b1 - Music 1.2.1.16
macOS 12 Monterey b9, b10 & 12.0.1 - Music 1.2.0.273
macOS 12 Monterey b8 - Music 1.2.0.262
macOS 12 Monterey b7 - Music 1.2.0.249
macOS 12 Monterey b6 - Music 1.2.0.183
macOS 12 Monterey b5 - Music 1.2.0.170
macOS 12 Monterey b4 - Music 1.2.0.158
macOS 12 Monterey b3 - Music 1.2.0.146
macOS 12 Monterey b2 - Music 1.2.0.130
macOS 12 Monterey b1 - Music 1.2.0.103
Big Sur 11.5 - Music 1.1.5.74
Catalina 10.15.5 - Music 1.0.5.14

Missing Features
  1. Can't edit/add "work and movement" for a single track (for example Classical Music Tracks): In the get info window of each track in iTunes you could edits and display woking names and Movement # and toggle from song name to work name details - this no longer works in Monterey / Music - see post 123 for more details
  2. No Longer can disable viewing "Apple Music" in left Side Bar: as of Monterey you cannot disable viewing "Apple Music" at the top of the left side bar - a waste of screen if you are not subscribed to monthly subscription of "Apple Music"
  3. "Search Filter Field" for Local Library "Songs / Column View" and "Playlists" is hidden -> must manually invoke "Show Filter Field" (menu < view< Show Filter Field (short cut = cmd + alt + F ) - (Still does not persist between switching playlists Music 1.2.1.16 )
  4. Album/song view: Can't view albums in place. Music has a separate page for every album. Artist view can view them in a list.
  5. No option for setting smaller grid size in album view. - previously in iTunes you could have 13 albums on each row, in Music limited to only 5 per row, makes scrolling through library tedious.
  6. Now Playing - Can't view a bigger version of the album art from Now playing. (previously in iTunes you could cmd + click to open a bigger artwork. This was separate from the mini player which wouldn't resize quite large and won't open in iTunes full screen) - alternative is ctrl + click for menu and select "Show Album In Library"
  7. Mini Player - "No Search Field" - as existed in iTunes - "History" is there, can toggle between "History" and "Playing Next" - but no search option
  8. Sync Play Info - from iOS device back to Music App on Mac: Some users report that "Play Counts" do not update / sync back to Music app on Mac as was the case in iTunes - this may be an issue on the iOS side - see post 276 for more info . . .
  9. Gestures missing in Apple Music - (compare to iTunes Store where gestures still work - I guess their solution was to remove gestures from the iTunes Store as well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ )
  10. XML library is no longer automatically generated - the XML file was for "sharing info" to other apps (it can still be created via "Export Library") – missing this can cause issues for some DJ software and sound system apps like sonos etc. - creating a manual XML file can be a useful work around ( see file menu)
  11. Missing Icons - iPad version of Music has icons for playlists, macOS does not
  12. Playlist Rename - No way to rename playlists inline from the sidebar - work around - can be changed in the playlist header on the same screen. Possibly removed so you can double click playlists to start playing from sidebar (which still doesn't line up with how Finder works)
  13. Artwork for new music - Ripping old CD's into "Music" Still does not always add "Non Apple" Artwork - may require manually adding artwork
  14. No Visual Feedback When Adding Songs to Queue - There's no indication that a song has been added to Up Next Queue at all. Previously there was an animation showing the song being added, and the glyph would glow blue indicating that there were upcoming songs. Both of these indicators have been removed.
  15. Importing tracks progress (from CD or Finder) is no longer showing

Click Spoiler to un-hide Features that are no longer missing
[*]Internet radio (old style streaming stations) - see apple support info - alternative = use a stand alone app such as "MyTuner". Streaming with direct URL (cmd-U) still supported.
[/LIST]


Bugs
  1. "Filter Field" Search does not persist when switching between playlists - Bug or Missing Feature ? - as mentioned above in missing features - Filter Field is the best option for searching local libraries, playlists etc. but disappears when switching to other views. Using the show lyrics icon at the top right also removes the Filter fields and wipes out any search text - losing the entry and requires re-opeing the "filter fileld" and re-entering the text again.
  2. Main Search Box defaults to Apple Music - when using the main search box (left / top) to search "local library" search defaults / displays results on Apple Music even when there is already purchased music in local library.
  3. Main Search Box disappears - The search field, being part of the sidebar, disappears up with the scroll making it useless for searching playlists lower down on the list
  4. Artwork Handling and Bugs - Artwork handling is just terrible. They just don't show up for a lot of songs — sometimes it happens in the Songs view, sometimes in the Album view that pops up when Cmd+L, sometimes in the mini player up top. All the artworks are like 1800px max (usually 1400px)
  5. Playlist/albums scroll positions aren't retained if you switch away from them. Album now retains position as of 1.0.2.37. Playlists DO NOT.
  6. After a restart of the app the sorting changes from "Album by Artist/Year" to "Album" in smart playlists.
  7. Some of the advanced playback features (for example Sound Check, Equalizer settings, Volume Adjust and Start/Stop) are not working when AirPlay playback is enabled.
  8. On a wired (Ethernet) connection with WiFi off, try selecting an AirPlay output in Music. The primary network connection will immediately drop out and take some time to reestablish itself. Any network traffic (e-mail, file transfers, etc.) will be interrupted. (Holdover bug from iTunes)
  9. Listen Now doesn't load (new in 1.1.0.234) loads very slowly / does not load for some / crashes Music for some (b4)
  10. Dragging tracks into a playlist from Finder to the top, or anywhere within a playlist, adds the tracks to the bottom of a playlist instead
  11. Returning to a song you are playing in the main library (Songs) with cmd-L is now impossible as it displays it as part of an album always - even if it is not part of an album / the only song. Previously would return to the place in the list.
  12. Songs that are matched, but have been removed from the iTunes Store library for whatever reason (usually older compilations that have had songs taken off them when licensing has expired) will get stuck on download and cause the entire download queue to stop until they are manually stopped. These songs can not be removed from the library with Music. A workaround is to search for the song in Music on an iOS device and remove it there.
  13. Moving tracks in synced playlist will often put the track right back where you moved it from
  14. Mini M1 with Apple Magic Mouse. Start Music and the mouse is unresponsive for about a minute
  15. Quitting while downloading tracks will cause a beachball and take a long time
  16. Turning on AirPlay network cuts off ALL audio, including the intended streaming.
  17. Not persisting between launches:
    1. Playlist column width
    2. Playlist folder states
  18. When switching between Get Info windows, the selected field does not persist

Click Spoiler to un-hide fixed bugs
  • "Show Artwork" in View < "Show View Options" CMD+J - Disabling "Show artwork" in Column/Song view does not persist between launches - re-appears at next launch and often displays generic icons - why show artwork if the icon is generic - waste of screen space - Fixed in Music Version 1.1.6.12
  • Rating stars in list view are not retina! How? Fixed in 1.2.0.146
  • Display Bar Missing (affected by language selection) - Some "French" language users report that Music can crash (mini player) and "top bar / player is blank" in album view - see screen shot post 194 - workaround = switch APP language back to English - check - then back to "french language" - see screen shot post 213 (not reported for a while, presumably fixed)
  • Inconsistency in star ratings, some are coloured and low res, some retina and non-coloured for no apparent reason:
    View attachment 1712454
  • Mouse clicks in the song list view will often get stuck, fail to register, or cause brief "move" actions instead of playing tracks
  • Misaligned play/pause button introduced in 1.2.0.130, bit better but still misaligned in 146. Fixed in 1.2.0.158.
  • Beachball often appears when using the new search. - I can’t seem to reproduce this anymore on my 110K+ library
[*]Opening lyrics while the filter field is open will remove the filter field and any input in it. Data loss! merged with filter field line
[*]A new playlist is not created takes a long time to appear when creating from an album in Apple Music. To reproduce, click the "More" (the three dots (•••) button on an album in browsing mode of Apple Music, then select "Add to Playlist," which then provides a long list of playlists, including "New Playlist.". Takes a long time with a "Creating playlist in Library" in activitiy. Causes error 9,039. Resolved as of music 1.1.2.28
[*]Double clicking a track for the first time will sometimes skip the track
[*]Stars don't show up at all under Artist in Songs list when app is open in Dark mode.
[*]Checkboxes in Songs view are showing as checked even it's actually unchecked when selected.
[*]Cmd+L in Songs view doesn't scroll the list to show the song but instead opens a whole new view that covers up the songs list. Does nothing in full screen mode. (Works if song is playing from a different playlist)
[*]Cmd-F no longer works to activate search. (new in 1.1.0.186) Cmd-F now takes you to the Apple Music Categories page for some reason (new in 1.1.0.243)
[*]Music app will randomly stop registering double clicks on a song to play. I have to use the "Play" button when you hover over the song number. If I quit and reopen the app double clicking works for a while and then stops again.
[*]Shuffle and Repeat Icons don't work when clicked (new in 1.1.0.208)
[*]Shuffle and Repeat icons don't appear until you click Shuffle in a playlist.
[*]Random UI bugs. It will lag, sometimes flash when going between albums, and the animations are sometimes very abrupt.
[*]Playlist folders re-expand when deleting playlists.
[*]Playlist folders are always expanded when restarting the app.
[*]Genius results can’t be updated right now. An Unknown error occured (18004) (4001).
[*]The results box not appearing properly
[*]Right clicking on an item within the “Browse” and “Listen Now” content areas sometimes opens the contextual menu at a random location.
[*]When I am playing a song in the list view and then I click Controls -> Go to Current Song (cmd + L) it changes to the album view (and goes back to the song view after clicking on the back arrow). When I do the same thing playing a song from a smart playlist, it remains in the song view.
[*]Play icon is cut off

Issues
  1. Filter field DOES NOT PERSIST between switching playlists.
  2. Playlists do not retain view and column width settings after converting iTunes library.
  3. Shuffle - Un-Shuffle Confusion - This is the difference between inactive / active state of "shuffle" and "repeat" - shuffle indicated by shuffle icon turning blue when active (not easy to notice if on or off) see post 226 shuffle info - "repeat" is a similar 3 way toggle on the right side
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  4. Back button is ugly. Redesigned again in 1.1.x.x, but still a single button on same spaced line as "Filter text"
  5. Play list Header Can’t remove playlist header in Song view. This seems to be intended behaviour, which sucks. This is the same as it was in iTunes - and in Music, this is where to edit the Playlist title / name now that you can no longer edit it from the side bar
  6. AppleScript / Scrobblers / Keyboard remote apps addressing “iTunes.app” no longer working. Last.fm scrobblers for Music now exist.
  7. UI conventions from iOS are unwelcome, especially the slide-in lyrics / playing next panes which covers content and search bars. Slide in panes move content instead of covering it now, but only in playlist view and in full screen. Frustratingly inconsistent.
  8. Loading the library can take a long time, especially after a force quit. Even on SSD.
  9. Updating artist artwork takes a long time / lots of CPU.
  10. Apple Music is slow to load and navigate - even on very fast connections / 2020 iMacs.
  11. Same font weight and size and tighter kerning for both primary/secondary text (instead of say Bold artist, regular title) in Apple Music. Only differentiation is font colour/brightness. Harder to read and scan - especially on non-retina screens.
  12. There's very little to distinguish Music from being in the foreground or background.
  13. "Show Only Downloaded Music" option is now universal. Not per playlist.
  14. Songs not in two columns anymore if you have a large screen, causing excessive scrolling in Album view.
  15. Transport bar only shows time elapsed/remaining when hovering.
  16. Genres do not autopopulate when editing.
Troubleshooting
  1. To rebuild your library from iTunes: Hold option when launching, select your old iTunes library in ~/Music/iTunes/iTunes Library.itl
    1. OR: try deleting ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.Music.plist then
      1. Move your music out of the Music folder and delete everything left in it.
      2. cd ~/Library and remove any folders that have Music or iTunes in the name
      3. cd ~/Library/Caches and delete any folders with Music or iTunes in the name
      4. Reboot
      5. Put your music folders back where you had them before. You may need to Import your music again to let the Music app organize them in a way that makes sense to it
    2. OR: This Applescript will force playlist re-build from original "iTunes Music Library.xml"
      https://github.com/dimecho/iTunes-Catalina
  2. Music Store can be enabled under view and in preferences.
  3. Home Sharing has moved to the Sharing pane in System Preferences (Media Sharing)
  4. Some sync issues for older iPods fixed by installing ItunesAccess https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/has-anyone-gotten-an-ipod-shuffle-2nd-gen-to-work.2196567/
  5. Switching all your playlists (back) to song view is quicker if you add a keyboard shortcut (System Prefs -> Keyboard) to this View item:
    View attachment 870422
  6. Doug Adams have started updating all his scripts for Music
  7. You may need to connect the remote app manually and not with home sharing:
    open remote app => tap settings in upper right corner => add iTunes library => in the music app in your Mac: look for the remote app symbol (arrow with your iPhone name) and enter the 4 digits
  8. Music always starting in full screen mode? Close Music, run

    defaults delete com.apple.Music

    in Terminal, and reopen Music (and re-set your preferences).
  9. Seeing as we are stuck with 1.0.5.14 for Catalina and 1.1.x for Big Sur, your best solution is probably to just install iTunes again. Yes, this still works in Big Sur!


New welcome features:
  1. New top bar View attachment 857531
  2. New Listen Now screen: View attachment 926401
  3. Real-time lyrics in pane, mini-player and full screen mode (1.0.4.89)
  4. New Full screen mode activated from mini-player zoom button or keyboard shortcut
    Screen Shot 2020-02-19 at 9.46.16 PM.png Screen Shot 2020-02-19 at 9.48.28 PM.png
    Thanks to @Internet Enzyme for discovering and screenshots
  5. 1.0.5.9 allows you to two-finger scroll the volume and track bars.
  6. Selection outlines now appearing when hovering over the lyrics and upcoming buttons, however nothing yet for the play/pauses buttons which also have outlines in Podcasts.
  7. Animated playlist artwork in Listen Now are now present, the same as iOS
  8. Mute and full volume glyphs on the volume slider are now selectable and change colour when clicked
  9. 1.1.0.186 has the iOS 14 icon
    View attachment 936556
  10. You can now add descriptions to Playlists (from 1.1.2.25)
Wiki post: everyone is welcome to add to and edit.
You should add a very important missing feature (please!):
Apple Music subscribers can’t make good use of Hi-Res streaming. ” Music“ works perfectly well with an external DAC in iOS, but in MacOS “Music“ can’t even switch internal DAC to match 44, 48 or 96kHz or bit depth !!! You have to set a specific sample rate in “Midi Setup Utility“, and so it stays!
Basically: “Apple Music“ hi-res service is unusable in macs.
I’m angry. I feel stupid having to unplug my iMac and plug my iPad just to get what I pay for.
(I don’t use iTunes or Music for my own music files since long ago, it’s a terrible mess if you’re AppleMusic user).
 

vddobrev

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You should add a very important missing feature (please!):
Apple Music subscribers can’t make good use of Hi-Res streaming. ” Music“ works perfectly well with an external DAC in iOS, but in MacOS “Music“ can’t even switch internal DAC to match 44, 48 or 96kHz or bit depth !!! You have to set a specific sample rate in “Midi Setup Utility“, and so it stays!
Basically: “Apple Music“ hi-res service is unusable in macs.
I’m angry. I feel stupid having to unplug my iMac and plug my iPad just to get what I pay for.
(I don’t use iTunes or Music for my own music files since long ago, it’s a terrible mess if you’re AppleMusic user).
Why? I set mine to 24bits 192KHz and forget about it. What is not usable?
 
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I have a possible bug, or just bad programming of the Music App on macOS. On my Mac mini 2014, the mini player in full screen mode is heating up my Mac to 98C. This is when connected to a 4K screen at 30Hz refresh rate. Playing music in normal mode has virtually no taxing of the CPU, but in Mini Player full screen it goes nuts.
 

J.Gallardo

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Why? I set mine to 24bits 192KHz and forget about it. What is not usable?
I can’t forget because my ext. dac stays in 192kHz and Apple Music can stream at 44, 48, 96 and 192kHz. I don’t know how my dac could deal with this. It must multiply sampling, but working is obscure, and imperfections should appear with 44khz, which is not a perfect multiple related to other rates.
Anyhow, my situation is special, as I’m still on Mojave (32bit apps), no hi-res is streamed to me; I was considering upgrading to bigSur or Monterrey to get the feature, but I read everywhere it “works” (?) exactly like you say.
Some music players I’ve tried and use in mac are able to make my ext. DAC reflect same quality as served file automatically (it has a screen to show).
My question is sincere: should I think it makes no difference when DAC matches or not? Why that different behavior?
(I speak also in name of users claiming even in Apple Support forums, where people with good hifi equipment are hearing imperfections due to mismatch. I believe them).
My iPad on iOS15 behaves correctly: if AppleMusic serves 44, my dac shows 44; next song at 192, and dac changes and shows 192.
 
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Good to know, actually! I was *this* close to reinstalling the OS in place. I suspected the bug showed up during the 12.0.1 update. I tried deleting the plist, toggling on and off Sync Library, signing out of iCloud and back in. Oddly, the same behavior is present in the Apple TV app, and preferences will not stay checked in the App Store either. @jkelol111 do you have that same behavior in other apps as well?
The TV app wouldn’t let me check Automatic Downloads. Will check App Store later.
 

nortonandreev

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Just saw that in Music 1.2.1.39 the "Sound Check" was on. I do not use this feature, but I was wondering if they have turned it on my default in response to the issue with Dolby Atmos masters being quieter. Can someone check if theirs is on after updating as well?
 

the3ye

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Not sure if this should be posted here, but I'm having this problem with Music app on Monterey. I'm using Sonos One as Airplay speaker, but since updating Mac to new macOS every time i change song in Music first few seconds play on my computer spekears, then the audio is going to Airplay speaker. I tried several things to fix it, but it's happening on two Macs that I own. Sonos One is highlighted as active and connected in Music app and configuring it from scratch doesn't change anything.
 

Lvivske

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in MacOS “Music“ can’t even switch internal DAC to match 44, 48 or 96kHz or bit depth !!! You have to set a specific sample rate in “Midi Setup Utility“, and so it stays!
Basically: “Apple Music“ hi-res service is unusable in macs.

Just because it doesn't have exclusive switching mode doesn't make it "unusable", it' still high-res, just not bit-perfect for OCD types who dont want to manually change the output per album

I can’t forget because my ext. dac stays in 192kHz and Apple Music can stream at 44, 48, 96 and 192kHz. I don’t know how my dac could deal with this. It must multiply sampling

Right, MacOS upsamples x4 from 48 to 192 and the DAC receives 192...
 

J.Gallardo

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Just because it doesn't have exclusive switching mode doesn't make it "unusable", it' still high-res, just not bit-perfect for OCD types who dont want to manually change the output per album
I admit, you’re right.
”Unusable” is totally unfair. It’s just an omission or missed feature. It’s perfectly normal to choose a specific album (forget playlists) and have ”Midi Setup” at hand, in case a change is required. But I think it must be pointed as an important imperfection, considering Music on iOS manages this bit-perfect output feature beautifully.
We could agree “Music“ on iOS is just more usable than on MacOS. A “missing feature“ as thread asks. I did exaggerate, perhaps; but I wanted this inconvenience listed, if it’s reasonable and possible.
(And I still feel curious about how upsampling from 44 is done. Oh, well, I know: must go and change to 176. Apple Music makes a nice effort with playlists and compilations, hope not just for OCD types like me?)
 
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