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Ray2

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Yup. This also happens with iTunes, so it's a bug with AirPlay.
Its a bug with Airplay 2, 1 works fine. Strikes me this entire thread expects Apple software to achieve some, at least moderate, level of competence. It doesn’t. Rushing out code annually to meet the dictates of far too many marketing people insures this will continue.
 

Ray2

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Retroactive iTunes stopped working for Big Sur if you are on M1, fwiw

probably is fine on monty as long as you're on intel, knock on wood
I have yet to receive my M1 Mac (assume w/Monterey) but had counted on running Retroactive to support iTunes. Your comment comes as a surprise as there are fairly recent web discussions re running iTunes on M1 Macs. Including sufficient detail and screenshots to show any shortcomings. Could you expand your statement as to how you came up with it, personal experience or, like me, hearsay.
 

Lvivske

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Could you expand your statement as to how you came up with it, personal experience or, like me, hearsay.
How I came up with it? It's not supported. Just a fact.

whole thread on retroactive here:

Retroactive: Mac app that lets you run Aperture, iPhoto, or iTunes on macOS Catalina | Page 4 | MacRumors Forums

and the github:

iTunes 12.9.5 crashing on Monterey 12.0.1 on MacBook Pro · Issue #251 · cormiertyshawn895/Retroactive · GitHub

"iTunes 12.9.5 did never run on any Apple Silicon Processor."
 

Lvivske

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Was thinking, wish there was a way to use Shortcuts to basically make an exclusive mode

ie, IF Kind = Lossless, then Get = Sample Rate
then set MIDI Setup format = {sample rate}
 

J.Gallardo

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Was thinking, wish there was a way to use Shortcuts to basically make an exclusive mode

ie, IF Kind = Lossless, then Get = Sample Rate
then set MIDI Setup format = {sample rate}
This is quite interesting.
I made an applescript and included it in start-up items, just to adjust volume; I had an external DAC that made my iMac set volume at max. when starting, so I forced system to watch over this.
I’m not sure if shortcuts, applescript, have such a granular control on file played. But it’s worth a try.
(I’m afraid it won’t be so easy. Apple hasn’t achieved this!)
 

nortonandreev

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1.2.1.39 crashes several times a day for me. Memory usage seems fine.

On the positive side, the live lyrics bugs seem to have been resolved.
 

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funnysharks

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how quickly/does your Last Played/Playcount update when you have Cloud Music Library, if you play a song on your iPhone and then check your Mac?

also anyone else got a weird bug when browsing on Mac Music, Library/Songs the scroll keeps jumping around, say if I'm scrolling it will just randomly jump to the bottom?
 

justafew

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how quickly/does your Last Played/Playcount update when you have Cloud Music Library, if you play a song on your iPhone and then check your Mac?

also anyone else got a weird bug when browsing on Mac Music, Library/Songs the scroll keeps jumping around, say if I'm scrolling it will just randomly jump to the bottom?

The Cloud Music Library typically updates about once a day. I had issues with my iPhone not updating my playcount in Apple Music at all! So I spent a long time on the phone with Apple trying to determine why. It was happening on my my iPhone and my iPad. I had completely wiped/reset my iPhone, but still had the issue. They suggested I do it by plugging up my device to my Mac and doing the restore from Finder. After doing this, my play counts update approximately once a day. Same result on my iPad when I took the same steps.

If I played 10 songs yesterday, they typically won't update. But once I play a song today, all 10 of the prior songs will update in Apple Music along with the first song I played today. The additional songs I play today won't update until tomorrow. I think it used to be quicker in updating, but that's my experience now and what Apple said is the expected results. Funny thing is that my Android Apple Music typically seems to update a bit quicker, sometimes the same day. Go figure.
 
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funnysharks

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The Cloud Music Library typically updates about once a day. I had issues with my iPhone not updating my playcount in Apple Music at all! So I spent a long time on the phone with Apple trying to determine why. It was happening on my my iPhone and my iPad. I had completely wiped/reset my iPhone, but still had the issue. They suggested I do it by plugging up my device to my Mac and doing the restore from Finder. After doing this, my play counts update approximately once a day. Same result on my iPad when I took the same steps.

If I played 10 songs yesterday, they typically won't update. But once I play a song today, all 10 of the prior songs will update in Apple Music along with the first song I played today. The additional songs I play today won't update until tomorrow. I think it used to be quicker in updating, but that's my experience now and what Apple said is the expected results. Funny thing is that my Android Apple Music typically seems to update a bit quicker, sometimes the same day. Go figure.
Thanks for the reply! I thought that might have been the case that it updates once a day, I'll keep an eye on it :)
 

gank41

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The Cloud Music Library typically updates about once a day. I had issues with my iPhone not updating my playcount in Apple Music at all! So I spent a long time on the phone with Apple trying to determine why. It was happening on my my iPhone and my iPad. I had completely wiped/reset my iPhone, but still had the issue. They suggested I do it by plugging up my device to my Mac and doing the restore from Finder. After doing this, my play counts update approximately once a day. Same result on my iPad when I took the same steps.

If I played 10 songs yesterday, they typically won't update. But once I play a song today, all 10 of the prior songs will update in Apple Music along with the first song I played today. The additional songs I play today won't update until tomorrow. I think it used to be quicker in updating, but that's my experience now and what Apple said is the expected results. Funny thing is that my Android Apple Music typically seems to update a bit quicker, sometimes the same day. Go figure.
What about updating iCloud Library manually?

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As for it updating on it's own, in my case I find that it doesn't trigger that prompt to update unless I restart the Music App completely, and then it does it at launch.
 

justafew

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What about updating iCloud Library manually?

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As for it updating on it's own, in my case I find that it doesn't trigger that prompt to update unless I restart the Music App completely, and then it does it at launch.
No, updating it manually doesn't make a difference. That helps is you have made changes to your library or played a song on the Mac and by updating manually it then updates in the cloud and reflects on your devices. But I've found it doesn't make a difference in the reverse. For some reason the iPhone is not sending the update until the next day - so the song doesn't reflect played on the Mac, my iPad or my Android until that time.
 

bamf-hacker

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Anyone else have touchpad issues with the latest beta on an M1 MBP? The touch targets are off and tap to click is hit or miss.
 

vddobrev

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For the love of God, will Apple fix the Remote App. It is unusable with lossless audio. Once you download songs in lossless or high resolution lossless, the Remote app does not see those songs. Only sees songs that have not been downloaded.
 

gank41

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I’m seeing the Automatically Add to Music Smart folder is now working normally again for me.
 
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ErikGrim

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Finally Tim is aware of the issues. From heyyoudvd on reddit:

I just got a call from Tim Cook’s office​

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I’m not sure if anyone is interested in this, but I recently got a call from Tim Cook’s office, which I thought was pretty cool.

For background, last month I sent a lengthy email to Tim Cook’s public email address all about Apple Music. I’ve been writing for years, thorough articles and analyses all about how I think the Apple Music app just isn’t very good and doesn’t meet the standards I’d expect from Apple. I’ve posted popular Medium articles, Reddit threads, countless Tweets directed at people in the Apple community (external and internal), and I’ve sent dozens of pieces of feedback to Apple via the iOS Feedback app.

Anyways, I decided to actually write Tim Cook directly, for the fun of it. I put together a fairly lengthy and well-written (if I may say so myself) email, in which I described how I’m a long time Apple fan, but that I thought the music app has provided a subpar experience for years, which is disappointing for a company that usually releases such great products. If you want to get an idea of some of the points I brought up, I covered a lot of the stuff from this popular thread that I posted here a while back. I focused on three broad areas where the app/service falls short - technical performance, design, and missing features.

I was respectful but also pretty tough in my constructive criticisms of the app. I wrote many of the points presented in that thread, I added several more, and I provided a lengthy background about my history with Apple products and how I just don’t think the Music app lives up to Apple’s longtime reputation for quality. I was also critical of the fact that the iOS beta Feedback app almost never yields any sort of response or even acknowledgement from pieces of feedback sent to Apple, so it almost feels like I’m sending things into a void.

Well, fast forward a few weeks and I got an email and voicemail from someone in Tim Cook’s office who told me she wants to chat on the phone because Tim actually saw my email, personally read it, and forwarded it to people in engineering and on the product design team for Apple Music. She said she’d like to set up a call with me, so of course I jumped at the chance. We chatted on the phone a few days later, and she told me that Apple took my email seriously and may potentially implement some of my suggestions, although she obviously couldn’t promise anything or tell me anything about future plans, as that’s all confidential, and Apple is a super secret company, as we all know

She did specifically point out that it was very rare to have Tim Cook send his teams product suggestions he received via email - and she had never personally seen that happen before - so she was almost congratulatory to me in the fact that my email seemed to have impact.

Anyways, the whole thing was cool. Apple Music is something I’ve been writing about for years, so it was amazing to hear that not only did the CEO of the largest company on Earth personally read my email, but he passed it along to his team to look into some of my suggestions. I realize I haven’t provided any proof of anything here, so you can believe me or not, but I can just say that between this and Apple’s recent Primephonic acquisition, I’m more excited for the future of Apple Music than I have been in a long time. I’m crossing my fingers that WWDC 2022 will finally see some big improvements to the Apple Music app for the first time since at least iOS 10.

One final thing I’ll say is that after this communication, I decided to take what I had written to Tim Cook about Apple Music, expand upon it, and write a pretty lengthy, in-depth article about Apple Music’s problems and how they can be fixed. The representative at Apple had told me I could follow up with her if I had anything to add, so I took her up on the offer, wrote that in-depth piece, and sent it to her, to pass along to the Music team. If you’re curious, that article is here. It’s a fairly long piece and I think it does an excellent job of breaking down where Apple Music went wrong and how it can be fixed, although I was planning on posting a separate thread on this board to have a discussion on it and see what others here think. But the purpose of this thread is primarily to give my thoughts on how cool it was to know that Tim Cook read my email and to point out that Apple may finally (hopefully) be improving the Apple Music app. We shall see. I’m really looking forward to WWDC 2022!
 

Traverse

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Disappointed to see the sidebar size reset bug is still not fixed in macOS Monterey. I have this issue in Safari as well, but no other applications.
 

Traverse

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Actually, sorry for the double-post and perhaps this doesn't belong here, but just noticed upon an update to macOS 12.1 that Music.app was taking up quite of bit of CPU. I opened the "Show Activity" window and saw this. Is this new? Perhaps something with SharePlay?

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polyphenol

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Just had sunset half an hour or so ago (UK).

As we reached sunset, and for about twenty minutes after, the colour (color) gradually reduced in blueness, warmed up, as you would expect.

Then, suddenly, it went back to full midday blue-white.

This was happening on Big Sur to some extent, but it seemed stronger, felt like someone flashing a light at me.

Oddly, almost exactly the same has recently been happening on a Windows 10 machine I use...

ADDING:

About an hour after sunset, the blue daylight colour slowly went the right shade for evening use.
 
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hwojtek

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Just upgraded from Big Sur to Monterey 12.1. The Music app lost almost 2 years of additions. I buy a lot from Traxsource and add to iTunes (and then Music) library so I have the song in both Music and my DJ software that is linked to music library. The last purchases I added were on Dec 10th and the Music app on Big Sur was OK with them. I ran Time Machine just before upgrading.

Once I opened the Monterey version it started to "check the Music library" for a long time and then all my songs are there... except those added within last 103 weeks.

So I dug my old Music folder from Time Machine, the most recent copy (it's 1.1 GB of size, the actual files are in the other folder) and replaced the database.

Music app "checks the Music library"... and again, I have a library in a state from 103 weeks ago. To my surprise the size of the library folder is now only ~700 megs.

I tried each and every Time Machine backup back till Dec 10th (when the last addition was made). No go, after some "checking" it just drops the last 103 weeks and presents the list from 103 weeks ago.

(How do I know it? I just check the "Recently added" smart playlist. The songs I can remember I added are not in Music.app)

Apparently I have a bug in my library that happened 103 weeks ago and the Big Sur version was immune to, but the Monterey version is not. Sot the question is: is there an app to rescan and fix Music library without resorting to running music.app itself? I tried some and all of them just run music.app (some silently, some explicitly) to 'fix' the database. The point is, music.app trims the last 103 weeks from my db so I need something (or a trick) that does not involve music.app in the whole fixing process.
 
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