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Vegastouch

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Zephyr works brilliantly one handed.

It is literally just like the notification center except opposite. Instead of pulling down from the top, you pull up from the bottom. It's always there. Always responsive. And certainly usable one handed (just like the notification center).

From what I can judge, same is true for SwipePad.

I'm just not a fan of physical buttons. I think we should move away from them.

Zephyr paired with Auxo completely eliminates the need for the home button. Really. The only time you need it is to either wake the device or to undo the jiggly thing when organizing your apps on the home screen, both of which can be accomplished with the power/wake button on top. There is literally no need for a physical home button, in my opinion.

Personally, I find swiping upwards easier than hitting a physical button. Believe it or not, a physical button does require some labor and resistive force.
It's by no means tiring to do it, but gesturing is the future. And it's very simple to learn. If people can learn to use the notification center, they can learn to use Zephyr.

I find this response kind of bizarre....lol. But , to each their own. I have played around with swippad and its cool but i find i can do the things i use the most just as easy. So, i added things to a portal i use that arent on my front homepage and a few that are but are bunched in a file.

I have made my most frequent contacts on one of my homepages with their photos so all i have to do is swipe right and there they are so i dont need that addon.

I also like Home Flip as well and have Swippad working from the left and Home Flip working from the right...lol. But you know what, i still have to touch the screen on both...which would be doing some labor ;)
 

onthecouchagain

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I find this response kind of bizarre....lol. But , to each their own. I have played around with swippad and its cool but i find i can do the things i use the most just as easy. So, i added things to a portal i use that arent on my front homepage and a few that are but are bunched in a file.

I have made my most frequent contacts on one of my homepages with their photos so all i have to do is swipe right and there they are so i dont need that addon.

I also like Home Flip as well and have Swippad working from the left and Home Flip working from the right...lol. But you know what, i still have to touch the screen on both...which would be doing some labor ;)

If you're interested, check out Zephyr on YouTube.




Swipe Pad isn't exactly its equivalent (unfortunately), but it's close enough.

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I am curious why you want gesture that much. It is not that useful due to difficulty in activating it one-handed. Isnt it much easier to press the home button to go to home?

If you want apps/shortcuts launching from anywhere there are many flavors. e.g. something like swipepad/wave launcher/sidebar (activated using gesture) or those that put a launch icon in the notification or floating like Folder Organizer


Check out that Zephyr youtube video above. It really is a special app.
 

onthecouchagain

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Looks interesting but doesnt seems to add any values. It just replaces the functions of the home button/task mgr. It is not an app launcher per-se.

The point being an entirely gesture based iPhone is possible. And, in my opinion, better.
 

onthecouchagain

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I want to clarify that it doesn't take a lot to swipe up. It's not like you have to swipe all the way up until the home screen is revealed. You can just flick up from the bottom.

Zephyr really needs to be used first hand to understand its simplicity and brilliance. And more importantly to understand what's possible with an entirely gesture beaded iPhone. Apple needs to get with the program.
 

Grolubao

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I want to clarify that it doesn't take a lot to swipe up. It's not like you have to swipe all the way up until the home screen is revealed. You can just flick up from the bottom.

Zephyr really needs to be used first hand to understand its simplicity and brilliance. And more importantly to understand what's possible with an entirely gesture beaded iPhone. Apple needs to get with the program.

That would be so sweet everything gesture based, I really think it's the future.
 

jrswizzle

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Aug 23, 2012
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I want to clarify that it doesn't take a lot to swipe up. It's not like you have to swipe all the way up until the home screen is revealed. You can just flick up from the bottom.

Zephyr really needs to be used first hand to understand its simplicity and brilliance. And more importantly to understand what's possible with an entirely gesture beaded iPhone. Apple needs to get with the program.

The funny thing is, most of their other products are highly gesture based (the trackpads on both the MacBooks and for the iMac, the iPads)....for whatever reason, they've left the cash cow out....

I agree they should expand the whole "gestures" thing - that's one of my favorite things about the 4.2.2 keyboard - gesture typing.
 

sentinelsx

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Feb 28, 2011
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Hey - You've got the right to live the way you want to ... but this is all off the subject. The subject started with people drawing a cartoon image of Apple not allowing other browsers to use Nitro just to make them look bad ... which if you read and understand the article, is simply not the case.

Go ahead and think that people getting infected with malware deserve it if it serves some purpose to you -- but it can happen just visiting a perfectly legitimate website that you've been using safely for years -- or opening a link that appears to be from someone you trust.

Griping about security measures, and starting to be concerned only after you realize you've been victimized by something like identity theft, is not a policy I would recommend to anyone I care about.

So a small probability of getting infected from a virus, for which I can anticipate and make a recovery plan a significant time ahead of it ever occurring, warrants a complete lockdown of choice?

I am sorry, I don't agree with this.

And again, why can chrome run fine on OS X and not ios? It is great to ignore part of the debate isn't it?
 

Night Spring

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Jul 17, 2008
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The funny thing is, most of their other products are highly gesture based (the trackpads on both the MacBooks and for the iMac, the iPads)....for whatever reason, they've left the cash cow out....

I agree they should expand the whole "gestures" thing - that's one of my favorite things about the 4.2.2 keyboard - gesture typing.

While gestures might make sense on bigger surfaces like the Mac or the iPad, for the iPhone, I prefer gestures be kept to the minimum possible. I have one news reader app that uses swipe to side to move to the next article. I find myself inadvertently swiping sideways and moving to the next article when I meant to just scroll vertically. Just a slight deviation sideways while pushing my finger up or down the screen seems enough to register as a sideways swipe! I'd rather the app used previous/next buttons instead of swiping. I'm sure if Safari used swipe sideways to move to the next tab, I'd often be switching tabs when I didn't mean to!
 

onthecouchagain

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Is there a way to search for music while in the music player? I don't see a way.

Also it doesn't seem to allow you to queue up songs.

Am I Mistakeb? Both these features i iswd frequently in the stock android music player.
 

onthecouchagain

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Uh oh: http://www.imore.com/apple-releases-ios-613


Just to be clear, if I update, this will undo jailbreak right? Will it leave any traces of jailbreak behind?

In other words, if I decide to return the iPhone, can I simply just update it and return it?

Or is it safer to connect to iTunes to do a full restore? There's no way Apple can detect I jailbroke after a full restore, right?
 

tbayrgs

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Jul 5, 2009
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Uh oh: http://www.imore.com/apple-releases-ios-613


Just to be clear, if I update, this will undo jailbreak right? Will it leave any traces of jailbreak behind?

In other words, if I decide to return the iPhone, can I simply just update it and return it?

Or is it safer to connect to iTunes to do a full restore? There's no way Apple can detect I jailbroke after a full restore, right?

I'm not certain but I think jailbreaking disables the Software Update option in Settings--both my iPad and iPhone stay stuck on Checking for Update and my iPad is only on 6.1 and never shown an update is available. So you don't have to worry about accidentally updating that way.

If you do decide to return your iPhone, just connect it to iTunes and do a full restore--good as new with no trace of the jailbreak.
 

onthecouchagain

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I'm not certain but I think jailbreaking disables the Software Update option in Settings--both my iPad and iPhone stay stuck on Checking for Update and my iPad is only on 6.1 and never shown an update is available. So you don't have to worry about accidentally updating that way.

If you do decide to return your iPhone, just connect it to iTunes and do a full restore--good as new with no trace of the jailbreak.


Thank you, kindly.
 

F123D

macrumors 68040
Sep 16, 2008
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Also, don't go to phone settings and reset your phone. You'll get stuck on the apple logo and will have to plug in and update with iTunes and lose your jailbreak.
 

Tinmania

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Uh oh: http://www.imore.com/apple-releases-ios-613


Just to be clear, if I update, this will undo jailbreak right? Will it leave any traces of jailbreak behind?

In other words, if I decide to return the iPhone, can I simply just update it and return it?

Or is it safer to connect to iTunes to do a full restore? There's no way Apple can detect I jailbroke after a full restore, right?
If you do just updated it would disable the jb and leave a ton of the jb files still on the device.

If you ever send a jb iPhone back to Apple you need to restore as new. You can't even restore from backup after restoring as it too will bring back remnants of jb.




Michael
 

onthecouchagain

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If you do just updated it would disable the jb and leave a ton of the jb files still on the device.

If you ever send a jb iPhone back to Apple you need to restore as new. You can't even restore from backup after restoring as it too will bring back remnants of jb.




Michael


Roger that. I will do a full restore with iTunes. No back up.

Just waiting for those S4 reviews to come on in...

I'm almost convinced HTC One is a pass.
 

ReanimationN

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Sep 7, 2011
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Roger that. I will do a full restore with iTunes. No back up.

Just waiting for those S4 reviews to come on in...

I'm almost convinced HTC One is a pass.

You can backup, restore and then return a jailbroken iPhone without Apple knowing you've ever jailbroken it. I had to return my 3GS twice- both times it was jailbroken, both times I had it swapped out with no fuss and a restore brought back all my non-jailbreak data.
 

onthecouchagain

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Not in stock, unfortunately. A jailbreak tweak just came out that lets you do it, though. It's called Cyueue.

Perfect. I'll give it a try. Thanks.

Another example of iOS needing jail break to have something that is available in stock android. :\

It's bizarre cause this feature was added in iTunes. I foresee it becoming standard in iOS 7.
 
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