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lol 5 macbooks

maybe you should just stop. buy something else.

if i was apple i would refund you and say never buy another mac from us again!

the only apple product i have ever had problems with is my macbook (random reboot, and hot as hell)

though on a friend of mines g5 the harddrive just went bonkers and you couldnt do anything. and it was out of warrenty (duh)

anyway 3 dead pixels is nothing, they might drop away. i had 2-3 dead pixels on my dell LCD monitor and they died away, however the ones on my dell laptop did not.
 
generik said:
Does that mean I have to defend Apple's mom and pop model?

I'm confused, is that an argument or counter point?
You want to know where the extra money is going because you believe that Apple takes home a higher profit margin per unit sold. If they do, it is probably because they do not sell as many units as Dell, who can stay in business with lower profit margins because they sell millions more of them than Apple.
I do not believe that Apple chooses to sell fewer machines...
Rant and rave on Apple for following the "mom and pop model" if you like, but I'd hate to see Apple have the same profit margins as Dell, which would mean Apple makes far less money, which means that something suffers, be it innovation, design, technology, employees, or any number of other things that money allows a company to function and improve.


So.... Dell stole Windows XP licenses from Microsoft for free?

And don't even compare a Mac with a "similar Dell", for the price I can compare with a Fujitsu or a Samsung even. Yeah.. I really question where that cash is going.

Show me the cost per copy of Windows XP vs OSX, and I'll take that stolen argument as something worth while. In the mean time it can be refuted on the surface pretty easily using the same units sold/profit margins rule of economics. Until you can tell me that OSX actually cost less to develop per copy sold than Windows, your point is mute.

Then compare with Fujitsu or Samsung. I'm pretty sure Apple is being outsold by both of those companies on a global scale, but I could very well be wrong about that. I know that in the US Apple outsells them. But afaik Fujitsus and Samsung computers are neither known for being innovative or inexpensive, so could you please explain your response a little better?
 
Like the many that said, you did have some genuine issues w/ ur laptop. But I'm gonna be blunt here and tell some of you straight up that u're too anal when it comes to your laptop.

Yes, it's a precision tool, yes you spent a lot of money on it, and yes we all want the machine to be perfect. But the reality is, it's likely not going to happen to most of us because Apple, like many other company is for-profit, and to make a large profit, you need to minimize production costs. I'm sure Apple or anyone else can dish out a "perfect" machine, but it'll cost you your first born or kidney. Compared to many other laptop manufacturers, I feel Apple is really top notch when it comes to value, style, functionality, and quality.

With that said, I keep finding myself running into threads where I feel people are expecting a whole lot more than what they should be receiving. Apple is a great company, it's not perfect, but it strives on phenominal products and customer service to keep your coming back for more. But it seems as though a significant number of their users expect their machines to be surgically perfect that any sort of imperfection signals an alarm. Some large issues such as the battery recall, random crashes, and discoloration should be acknowledged and fixed, but there are so many cries of insignificant concerns that I feel Apple has been way too generous about. It seems as if some people are taking advantage of their goodwill to keep their customers happy.

It's really easy to drown one-self to inspect every millimeter of the notebook and scrutinze every small flaw. And it's also very tempting to use that to your advantage since Apple typically has very good receiving customer service. But one has to see the glass half full than empty. And take a step back and objectively ask if the concern is truely significant to the degree where it's unacceptable and would affect productivity or function. Some would say it's relative, but there is a fine line and common ground where the concern/issue is legitimate or not.

Yes, i spent 2500+ on my mbp in Feb., yes it has flaws, yes the whine is repaired and runs cooler, yes it still has problems, and yes I do want my machine to be perfect. But those "flaws" are so miniscule that it doesn't warrant a call to AppleCare.

Love your mac. (Poolin, to make you feel better, my mbp which costs more than the mb does not seal perfectly, isn't 100% silent, keyboard has different size gaps, came w/ a few small scratches on the cover, has slight flickering screen in the dark, and some other stuff i forgot).

I'm sorry you were not able to get a "perfect" machine, but I don't think there is anything else we can do to help you here :(

I do have one recommendation for you. Have a friend purchase a MB for you to avoid your bad kharma and after he receives it, have him convince you it's perfect and you ABSOLUTELY have no need to check for imperfections (because the mind sees what it wants to see). And discipline yourself to ONLY love ur MB and not check it for any flaws unless it's extremely obvious like discoloration or battery exchange.

Get a Fujitsu.
 
Wow. Some people have horrible luck. I mean, I've had my share of stuff not working brilliantly, but I use the hell out of my computers:

1) iBook Clamshell. Logic board cracked when friend ripped out the ethernet. Replaced under warranty.
CD Drive died later, and the whole machine died about a month ago (6 1/2 years).

2) iMac, in 2000. Not a problem. At all. It's been chugging along happily for 6 years, and five family members.

3) iBook G3 900mhz. Logic board died last year. Free replacement. Now four years old, hard drive failure looming and cooling failure on the thing. Oh, and it has a single stuck pixel. I can see this thing dying before it hits four and a half, unfortunately. But it got good wear, and was beaten around the bush a bit. Backpacks aren't good for Laptops. :S

The iBooks were the entry models, while the iMac was the top of the line apple offered at the time. Compared to the problems we have with the Wintel Box, it's nothing really, comparatively. Then again, the Wintel box is made out of cheap bits, so I'm not really surprised.

I'm actually pretty impressed with Apple's service here in Australia. They usually fix anything, it might take a fortnight or so, but you'll get it back. I'd imagine if the Topic Creator had a dell or a Compaq or something, they would have told him to take a long walk of a short pier.

And while Apple stuff sometimes does have it's faults, at the end of the day, if you take good care of it, they'll last a LOT longer. Expecting a laptop to not wear at all is silly, really.
 
It's threads like this that have really put a sour taste in my mouth regarding MacRumors. It's either no one believing each other, someone complaining RAPE over a small Mac problem, or just ridiculous claims like "Apple makes terrible computers".

I would recommend to go deal with this problem on your own and not deal with telling everyone (on MR) what is going on. Cause we've all heard this story a million times.
 
poolin1243 said:
OH and for ALL the SKEPTICS...

read and weep. Heres ALL the reciepts...

Uhm, don't you have any second thoughts presenting all this personal information here in a publically accessible forum??
 
I feel your pain.

But you've made a laceration with exit wound out of a paper cut. Neither a "click" when swiveling the screen nor a single dead pixel entitles you to a replacement. From the first replacement on, our favorite computer company here has replaced your units as a matter of good public relations. Oversensitivity can be a sign of a small, pemanently flacid penis, my friend. Please remember this the next time you pause to urinate.

Sincerely,

MacRumors
 
dpaanlka said:
I don't think you even own a Mac.

I'm with him.

Let's do a little math. Assuming that 1 out of every 5 Macbooks are defective (read: way too high), the odds of you getting 5 defective Macbooks in a row is 1 in 3125.

If the ratio is 1 out of 10 Macbooks, the odds are 1 in 100,000.

And if the ratio is 1 out of 20, which in my opinion is a much better estimate, you are the lucky person out of 3,200,000 that gets 5 defective units in a row.

Basically, I don't believe you at all.
 
miles01110 said:
I'm with him.

Let's do a little math. Assuming that 1 out of every 5 Macbooks are defective (read: way too high), the odds of you getting 5 defective Macbooks in a row is 1 in 3125.

If the ratio is 1 out of 10 Macbooks, the odds are 1 in 100,000.

And if the ratio is 1 out of 20, which in my opinion is a much better estimate, you are the lucky person out of 3,200,000 that gets 5 defective units in a row.

Basically, I don't believe you at all.

Hmm looking at those odds I am starting to feel the same way
 
Switch to Dell, then all of your problems will seem normal.

On a more serious note:
If you have an Apple store near you, when you take something in for repair/replacement, and go to pick it up, don't leave the store without opening and testing the repaired/replaced system.

Case in point:
I purchased a used Gamecube from EBGames and it didn't work. Took it back to the store and requested that the replacement be hooked up and tested first. The first replacement they tried didn't work so they pulled another one and made sure it did before I would take it.
 
Though it seems unbelievable, my sister is on her 7th iPod under (luckily) extended warranty, though within 1.5 years. I personally have NEVER had a defect with an iPod, but when I gave my sister my old one it died pretty quickly. I think if your machines break that often it's most likely something you're doing wrong.

that said, i've definitely noticed at least some decline in quality as demand for apple products gets higher. In high school i went through 3 iBooks and a Powerbook G4 with absolutely no problems but in the last few years I had a different PB G4 need a logic board, trackpad and top case replacement, my G5 has always had a logic board problem but only now that it's gone all matrix like on me will the problem turn up visibly enough for an engineer to reproduce the problems, and one of my friends had his PB G4 replaced and the new one was buggy.

When you sell higher quantities or try to cut costs/increase margins it's pretty inevitable.
 
MentalFabric said:
Though it seems unbelievable, my sister is on her 7th iPod under (luckily) extended warranty, though within 1.5 years. I personally have NEVER had a defect with an iPod, but when I gave my sister my old one it died pretty quickly.

Oddly enough, my wife has this same effect on cell phones. If Apple comes out with a phone, and if i buy one, my wife will NEVER be allowed to touch it!
 
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At the end of the day whether poolin is right or not he is a APPLE customer so would it kill apple to replace the machine and make him happy and on a side note my mate just got a vaio and it has 3 dead pixels as well i said 2 him (after explaining most lcd's do suffer from this) what do u want to do ? does it bother u ? and he being a little mature said nah ill live with it and that was that ! saying this if it was me i would have tried to get a replacement but not been to upset if i didnt so people stop sucking apple's rear and support you fellow mac users apple should value there customers more than they do !!!


also people will go and buy the latest **** thats first gen so what do u expect ??

g4's all the way hahahaha
 
I thught pixels were very small things that we wouldn't even notice those the ones dead ><
I'm curoius about how annoying it is to have 3 of them dead on the screen...
Pictures??? :confused:
 
poolin1243 said:
i Can now report
that i have found THREE bad pixels with this LCD on this fourth macbook
I understand you want a perfect macbook, but normally, all laptop manufactures will not replace a laptop with less then 6 bad pixels, thats why you should go to store and buy it after checking.
 
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