I'm not sold on windows 10 either, but that's a conversation for a different thread.
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This thread has veered a bit it seems from the original topic. With my 6s Plus, I experienced really bad lagging and stuttering while scrolling (say, in Safari or a list in Music), and longer opening times on some apps (especially HTML apps like the App Store) on iOS 10.0 compared to iOS 9.3.x. It was so bad, especially with scrolling in Safari (where I spend most of my time), I went back to iOS 9 while I still could. My iPad Air was even worse - from scrolling to switching Safari tabs, there were delays I never experienced on iOS 9. It's now been seven months and multiple iOS releases and betas since 10.0. I haven't tried any of them to see if things have improved, because I don't want to leave iOS 9 only to be disappointed again by the lags in Safari and scrolling responsiveness. So, what is the general consensus about the state of iOS 10.3.x on the 6s? Does scrolling and Safari still lag? Are HTML-based apps still slow to open? I'd like to update, but...
Says who? You? Where is the proof of this?
I use my phone and tablet everyday. No burn in anywhere
I have seen an 5s in action and it's performance is similar to iPhone 6 which is to say quite bad
PC world doesn't say anything about 3 year old PC. It's talking about netbooks from 2007
Windows 10 will be running on a Snapdragon 835 which is comparable to MacBook 2015 CPU which has no issues running Windows.
Ignore that article. It's irrelevant to the discussion. It's comparing Windows 10 to Windows XP on a netbook from 2007. He knows he can't win the argument by using conventional tower PCs and laptops using i7 from 2009 which is why he deflects to Pentium and Athlon processors.
And if ever it's proved that Windows 10 runs faster than Windows XP on that same PC in the future he will probably deflect to Celeron and so the story never ends
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Says me. And since none of my idevices do NOT have yellow tint, your statement is unequivocally false. Period. End of.
It's coming. Or pink screen. Samsung Galaxy S8
I have seen my 5s and my 6 in action and given they 4 and 3 years old, they perform as expected for phones of those prior generations, which is to say, quite fine.
They were just proving a point, which they did admirably.
Running and being usable on a platform which is not native are two different things. If you think w10 on arm=w10 on intel you're in for a letdown. To people who check Facebook and email all phones can do that. Microsoft has failed before in this so we'll see where it goes.
Of course it should be ignored, it just disproves your "point" admirably and that your original statement that started this entire conversations, over many, many days and posts, was incorrect.
Most of this is not relevant to the thread, except the part, my 6s is running great.
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Then its anecdotal. You claim that all OLEDs have burn in and backup with Google searches. The same logic does apply for yellow tint
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...s-yellow-screens.2041486/page-3#post-24505069
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-6-screen-with-yellow-tint.1785117/
How's Hissgate coming along? You know as well as I do these are minor issues expected on every launch. No phone is free of them
By "As expected" do you expect constant tab reloads, typing lag and 5 seconds to open a basic app like Uber/Google maps?
What they proved was Windows 10 runs slower than Windows XP ON 11 year old hardware. What else is new?
https://www.slashgear.com/windows-10-on-snapdragon-835-devices-are-still-coming-21482964/
Both Microsoft and Qualcomm night each have a solution for that. Both have efforts to allow regular x86, a.k.a. win32, applications to run on ARM hardware. Qualcomm is also confident that its latest Snapdragon 835 can handle the load, even from something as “heavy” as Photoshop.
My point was never about 20 year old computers but computers from the i7 era from 2009 which had the greatest shift in processing power for the CPU market which has grown stagnant with small IPC gains since then. Thanks for playing
You were flat out wrong on "yellow" tint, but it's a fact about oled burn in. And is that why people were returning oled TVs?
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ol...eneral/2459978-burn-worries-2016-lg-oled.html
I don't know? Hows battery gate? Wait, that's a done deal. Pink screen is not a minor issue, and it shows flaws in the technology.
Yes, these devices are running the same or better on the latest ios update than the original operating systems that came with the device, thus disproving the popular "planned obsolescence" meme. And 4 years old, my 5s is getting full updates.
In other news, windows 10 does not run better on older hardware than the original operating system.
Being confident and delivering a useful product are two different things. Microsoft has been confident about such things in the past. Image editing, though, is done on almost every platform these days. Citing that as an example is meh. Running Sony Vegas Pro editing/resampling a 2 hour 4K video could be impressive.
My point still stands.
You were flat out wrong on all OLEDs having burn in as my devices which are several years old don't have any
Is that why so many people keep exchanging iPhones till they get one without yellow tint?
Just like yellow tint and back light bleed and stuck pixels
They run like complete trash. The existence of this thread and so many other goes a long way towards the "meme" as you call it
And takes 5 seconds to open a simple settings menu
PCs from the 2006 are not old. They are ancient. The fact that 10 isn't hat much slower than XP is impressive because we all know how iOS 6 performs compared to iOS 9 on ancient hardware
Rome wasn't built in a day. The path to true innovation does result in failuresUsing failures as stepping stone we will one day have real Windows running on ARM hardware with no compromises and on varied screen sizes and the day that happens my iPads go in the bin
It doesn't stand because when Someone calls something old it's reasonable to assume a 7-8 year time frame and not a 15 year one. Its reaching when one misintreprets on purpose to deflect a point
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We already have a solution on that one. The only way to solve issues like these which keep cropping up on every iOS release is to get the latest iPhone. That's the only way and I have learnt that the hard way. Also this phenomenon tends to occur with market leaders in general. Just look at NVIDIA. All their Maxwell cards have been left in the dirt once Pascal came out while the equivalent AMD older cards are outperforming all of them
There is no denying this as oled as a technology is less than perfect, with burn-in and uneven wear on the pixels as problematic.
Same as for pink tint I guess.
At least those aren't a given.
Right, and with tens and tens of millions of idevices out there and 20/30 threads, there is nothing that is significant that proves that meme.
Not on my two 5s, iphone 6, iphone 6s, iphone 4 or iphone 7 or 2 ipads.
Except that ios 9 has hundreds of new features since ios 6 that benefit me as a user. Windows 10 does not have a proportionally same amount of new features.
And Rome fell while Nero was fiddling. Cars have been around for 100 years, it seems enough time to innovate a car big as bus, that sips fuel like Prius, that handles like a Ferrari around the racetrack. But that hasn't happened either. I am really doubtful that "heavy" x86 win32 apps can be emulated with a degree of success.
Reasonable is a moving target.
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There is no doubt I like getting a new phone (just like a car I guess
), but I don't have to get a new phone as even my 5s is running fine on the latest IOS. I'm sure there are those who are not posting, who do not have the issues you claim to have.
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LCD is not perfect either with uneven whites,backlight bleed and dead pixels and yellow tint. My Dell P2414H monitor has one dead pixel and backlight bleed
Except pink tint is going to be fixed soon
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...l-hopefully-fixed-next-weeks-software-update/
Burn in develops after years of use.LCD screens has us taking a lottery on iPhones as to whether we get the perfect one
Theres just as many slow performance threads on the internet .
iPhone 6 is crippled (Not exaggerating, many others have this problem. https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...curity-and-bugs.2038854/page-12#post-24519008 .iPad Air 2 is average. iPad Mini is unusable. iPhone 7 Plus and iPad Pro are currenttly running top speed.Nexus 5 on an outdated Android version is running at iPhone 6 speeds. Galaxy Tab S2 on an unsecure Android is faster than my Air 2.
Windows 10 from Windows XP has tons and tons of changes under the hood and visually just like iOS 9 and 6. Windows 10 by integrating the hibernate feature runs faster than Windows 7 and Windows Vista and Windows 8. Microsoft did an outstanding job here
Thats not equivalent to getting Windows to run on ARM
Its going to happen and its the next revolution in computing which even Apple cant avoid. Once this drops Apple is going to have to go for an overhaul of iOS on an iPad. Qualcomm states they have gotten heavy apps to run on it
There is a difference between "old" and "Ancient"
There are very few upgrades on the 7 which do not justify my upgrade from the 6 to 7 but I only did it because my 6 was becoming unusable with atrocious battery life. The iPhone Edition from the sound of it is the upgrade I have been waiting for for 3 years if Apple prices it right.There is no doubt I like getting a new phone (just like a car I guess
No bezels,curved edge display and OLED.Sweeeeet.
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Too many variables with oled. Burn-in, uneven wear and now pink screen. I've seen some examples of dead pixels, but more example of burn-in on oled. Even in the apple store all those displays that are on max brightness 24x7 are still perfect. That pink tint is a hardware issue, though doesn't give a lot of confidence in the screens.
I'd rather take a lottery to see who loses than lose with a certainty.
And of course, if you can gauge that by the internet, oled burn-in can be gauged by the internet as well.
Frankly, your phones seem to have every problem ever documented on the internet.
But nothing really noteworthy for the user, except for a lot of interface changes, "lipstick on a pig thing". Oh, my, the most used feature of windows, the hibernate feature runs faster.
It is. Companies promise anything and then deliver nothing or something that is not really all that. Overpromise and underdeliver and all of that.
It's going to be like a drop of rain in the ocean.
You didn't make that distinction when you made your original claim. So now you are moving the goalposts.
Well for someone who takes rumor as fact, sure, Taking rumor as face value, not gonna happen.
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If the OP is still having issues with Lag and stutters. Try turning off "Reachability" if you havent already. after months of ios 10.x lag I tried turning it off and BOOM...instantly smooth OS animations. Give it a shot. Just shared this info on reddit too for a few users with similar issue. GL
Wow is that so? I will try it on my 6 later and report back
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Many of the Apple store iPhones have yellow tint.
You lose after you use the device for 4 years or so. With an LCD you get dead pixels or a tinted screen out of box
Never said OLED burn in wasnt an issue
My 7 Plus does not have an issue. All my Apple devices work perfectly the first year of their update cycle before they go downhill
The hibernate being integrated into boot is innovative and a big deal. My XPS 13 boots in 9-10 seconds flat. A far cry from the 30 seconds to 1 minute 7 and Vista tajeBut nothing really noteworthy for the user, except for a lot of interface changes, "lipstick on a pig thing". Oh, my, the most used feature of windows, the hibernate feature runs faster.
Thats what people said about the iPhone
Apple already followed them with the iPad Pro.
Its you grasping at technicalities
Patently false. My iPhone 4 is proof of this.
Ok, I must have misunderstood all of these tit for tat posts.
None of my 64 bit idevices have issues in 10.x.x.
The most often used feature, hibernate. What nonsense.
What people?
Still doesn't change anything.
One has to to keep up with moving goalposts.
The original thread poster was asking about lags and performance issues on the 6s. Let's get back to that. I noticed bad lags, stutters, and dropped frames while scrolling on 10.0 on my 6s Plus. Many say their performance is fine and don't experience this, many others say they do. So, what's going on? It could be those of us with issues scroll more/faster or are more detailed oriented so things bother us that others might not notice. I've also wondered if it could be related to chipgate - those of us with Samsung vs TSCM chips have slight performance or optimization issues. I know, both chips give the same basic performance and that it's mostly a non-issue. But it makes perfect sense that perhaps one has slightly different thermal characteristics, which causes one to throttle down quicker during load (scrolling) causing dropped frames. This would help to explain why some see this issue badly and others don't. It would be interesting to see, for those that do and do not experience these sorts of performance issues, which chip your 6s has. Mine does have issues, and has a Samsung chip.
I don't have any problems and have the TSCM chip.
I suspect those who have the problems are much heavier users of resources than those that don't. How many open apps - yes they don't use battery but do take memory; how many open tabs in Safari, background updates, etc. There may even be specific apps that use more resources than others - I know there were Facebook apps that ate battery even when not used, etc.
I think use is probably a much more cause than chip but I could be wrong - certainly have been before.
I suspect those who have the problems are much heavier users of resources than those that don't. How many open apps - yes they don't use battery but do take memory; how many open tabs in Safari, background updates, etc. There may even be specific apps that use more resources than others - I know there were Facebook apps that ate battery even when not used, etc.
I think use is probably a much more cause than chip but I could be wrong - certainly have been before.
Generally, I don't keep many apps open in the background. I close them out after using. I have background refresh off for all. I do, however, use a lot of Safari tabs. I frequently max it out. Safari is my most used app. Most tabs require reloads when I switch back to them because they have been wiped from memory, but there should be a way to optimize it so background tabs don't have an effect on the open tab while scrolling. I have way fewer reloads of background tabs on iOS 9.3.5, and scrolling within an open tab is very smooth without noticeable lags and frame drops. Not so on 10.0.
