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pshufd

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The problem with height is minor. The main problem is with the type of glasses. All you have to do is ask your optician and they'll recommend a pair of single-lens or bifocals to resolve the glasses issue.

I used to have problems with night driving in that things looked blurry. I was going to give up driving at night. I asked my optician and he told me that the pupils get larger at night so he made a pair of night-time driving glasses to compensate for the pupils being larger at night. You are frequently better off asking a professional.
 

bobcomer

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You made a claim. I was addressing your claim.

Your claim is clearly incorrect.

Most people won't do the VESA mount. They will get a couple of books and put it underneath the monitor. In the old days, we used telephone books.
Books only help if you need to raise the monitor. I truly didn't know the iMac wasn't height adjustable -- glad he posted his complaint. I know not to buy one.
 

pshufd

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Books only help if you need to raise the monitor. I truly didn't know the iMac wasn't height adjustable -- glad he posted his complaint. I know not to buy one.

If the monitor is too high, then a seat cushion could fix that.

Or you could sit on a book.

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ForkHandles

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Your monitor should be at eye level, other wise you will get a sore neck.
If you spend hours at the computer everyday then go to your optician and order some cheap, fixed distance (12”) glasses.
The whole screen will be in focus, assuming you are 12” away and your neck will be fine.
 

pshufd

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Zenni Optical has a nice page on workplace progressives. I get it that the optical companies want to sell you Progressives because they're really expensive but single-vision or bifocals can get the job done as well.

Zenni Optical has this advice:

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pshufd

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No kidding

If I were OP and I took one look at most of the "helpful replies" here, I'd never post again.

Not sure what MR thinks they are cultivating here, but it's not a friendly environment for one who doesn't post much or perhaps has an obscure issue they'd like to discuss.

This is a fantastic thread for learning about glasses.
 

Jorbanead

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Why would he with all the attacks?
No kidding

If I were OP and I took one look at most of the "helpful replies" here, I'd never post again.

Not sure what MR thinks they are cultivating here, but it's not a friendly environment for one who doesn't post much or perhaps has an obscure issue they'd like to discuss.
The reason for the attacks is because of the way OP wrote their post, and how they framed the issue. This is essentially just an “iMac has a dumb design” post which has been posted here hundreds of times.

If OP genuinely wanted help on how to elevate the issue, they could have asked for it. Or if they wanted to partake in a healthy discussion on apple design, they could have posed a question. The post didn’t really call for any specific type of conversation to follow it which makes it’s intentions questionable to some users.
 

turbineseaplane

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The reason for the attacks is because of the way OP wrote their post, and how they framed the issue. This is essentially just an “iMac has a dumb design” post which has been posted here hundreds of times.

That is not a justification for "attacks"
There is no justification for it on a forum.

Leave the person alone if one doesn't like the "framing of the issue".

We are not all here to "go after people who don't frame a question right!"
 

DotCom2

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Readers wouldn't work, they don't focus at the right distance, not to mention they don't correct whatever he needs the progressives for.
Incorrect. They absolutely do! That's why you have to look at your prescription and find out what it is and add to that. I've been doing this for YEARS! And my optometrist says it's fine. You can also get single vision lens made that are specific to your own eye needs instead of off the shelf readers. Please don't tell me they don't work. People who have vision problems and compute a lot get single vision lenses specifically for computer work. THE END!
 
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Jorbanead

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That is not a justification for "attacks"
There is no justification for it on a forum.

Leave the person alone if one doesn't like the "framing of the issue".

We are not all here to "go after people who don't frame a question right!"
Of course, there's no justification for using slurs or calling someone names. That's not what people did though. People questioned the intent and/or the point of the OP because of the verbiage used, and pointed out that OP's complaint is a widely known issue that could have been foreseen before the purchase of the iMac.
 

RUQRU

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The easy solution to this issue is to get a pair of single focus "computer glasses" - My optometrist gives my a script for single focus glasses set to 18 inches. Works great when sitting at a screen. Yes, I have to switch to regular progressives when walking around but using single focus glasses means no more neck strain.
 

triptolemus

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Of course, there's no justification for using slurs or calling someone names. That's not what people did though. People questioned the intent and/or the point of the OP because of the verbiage used, and pointed out that OP's complaint is a widely known issue that could have been foreseen before the purchase of the iMac.

So they questioned the "intent" because OP posted what clearly amounts to an opinion?

How could the intent be such a mystery? "The design is dumb" is obviously an opinion. Do posters here regularly question the "intent" of opinions on this forum?

Perhaps it just didn't occur to the OP that the thing wouldn't be adjustable considering how ubiquitous adjustable displays actually are (in reality, not fantasy land). I mean, it's not a shocking oversight.

And all the advice about glasses is just stupid considering not one person has suggested that OP speak to their optometrist about what's best for THEIR eyes!
 

pshufd

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Incorrect. They absolutely do! That's why you have to look at your prescription and find out what it is and add to that. I've been doing this for YEARS! And my optometrist says it's fine. You can also get single vision lens made that are specific to your own eye needs instead of off the shelf readers. Please don't tell me they don't work. People who have vision problems and compute a lot get single vision lenses specifically for computer work. THE END!

People have varying needs in corrective glasses and simple magnification without the correction of prescription lenses may be ineffective or even cause more problems. If it works for you, then fine. But it doesn't work for everyone.

Most of us have stated that the OP should get single-lens or bi-focal glasses. They are quite cheap and effective for long hours at the desktop. I use bifocals so that I can read documents at my desk without having to switch frames.
 

bobcomer

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Incorrect. They absolutely do! That's why you have to look at your prescription and find out what it is and add to that. I've been doing this for YEARS! And my optometrist says it's fine. You can also get single vision lens made that are specific to your own eye needs instead of off the shelf readers. Please don't tell me they don't work. People who have vision problems and compute a lot get single vision lenses specifically for computer work. THE END!
Partially right -- looking at the perescription and adding that brings you out of the range of a $10 pair of readers. All readers do is magnify, not correct.
 

pshufd

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One that was for height? Also that would put my arms at the wrong height. Like I said, I just wont buy an iMac now.

The reason for my seat cushion was to deal with side-effects from Chemo and Radiation. It also helped after surgery. I've been using it for four years. But you could always just use a height-adjustable seat. My chair is a 40-year-old Steelcase which has provided decades of service.

If an iMac doesn't work for you, then don't buy one. I have an iMac and I just put books under it to move it up.

I have four Dell height-adjustable monitors right now. Two are hooked up to a massive desktop and the other two to an M1 Mac mini. I carefully plan before I buy.
 
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