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My wife gave me back her iPad
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Did she download any apps? The iPad is worth it for the 3rd party software alone.
Tell her to try Epicurious
Tell her to try Epicurious
It's funny but my wife wanted one so bad we nearly bought two on release day. Now we have it she won't use the damn thing. She hogs my laptop while I use the iPad.
This not a bad thing for me. I'm in love with the iPad, but the device's restrictions do limit it's functionality for casual users. As a self-confessed nerd and apple sycophant (who else reads this site religiously?) I am prepared to work around the limitations of the device, but the wife won't put up with it. Like most non-nerds she wants her computer to do what she wants it to do and not block her from her favorite flash sites etc.
As much as I love this device, it's hard for me to recommend it to "regular people" until the world catches up with Steve Jobs way of thinking.
This not a bad thing for me. I'm in love with the iPad, but the device's restrictions do limit it's functionality for casual users. As a self-confessed nerd and apple sycophant (who else reads this site religiously?) I am prepared to work around the limitations of the device, but the wife won't put up with it. Like most non-nerds she wants her computer to do what she wants it to do and not block her from her favorite flash sites etc.
As much as I love this device, it's hard for me to recommend it to "regular people" until the world catches up with Steve Jobs way of thinking.
Did you read the OP's post? If so you would realize that he had no idea that 90% of the sites she frequents needed flash. That probably means he know about Facebook but short of that, nothing. I think it's fair to give the OP some credit. Perhaps not going to Facebook is a bigger deal than it should be for his wife, but if that's her thing then so be it. I would say that if it were me then I'd give up FB for the rest of the features. However, she seems not to care about them as much as FB and coupons. You can't blame her really.
I would keep her MB and buy her a Nook or Kindle if she wants an eReader. It sounds like she doesn't though so maybe the OP is getting off cheap.
^^ Well said.
My wife did download a few apps. Epicurious is on there, as well as Scrabble and some Piano app. She liked them but it wasn't enough to get around what she felt were "differences" between her iPad and Macbook experiences.
My wife did download a few apps. Epicurious is on there, as well as Scrabble and some Piano app. She liked them but it wasn't enough to get around what she felt were "differences" between her iPad and Macbook experiences.
That's the point of course. Me, the iPad was the eReader of choice for me because I knew I would not suddenly find more time to read. I've read exactly one book on it since I bought it, I've had it less than a 7 days. I was right in my thinking and I find it to be a great $600 accessory for my couch. It is right for me but I don't do farmville or any-ville and I don't clip coupons often (enough).
No **** right? Who would have thought the uproar over the iPad lacking flash would be Farmville?
I'm extremely hesitant to ever poke fun at Farmville and the like from a business/marketing perspective. I saw the Dice 2010 presentation that outlined just how many gamers are playing games like that versus the other market 'leaders' and was totally floored. Over 100 Million active Farmville players dwarfs the entire user base of Twitter and obliterates last years biggest 'real' video game, Modern Warfare 2.
If Adobe makes their money off of licenses....that's some decent cheddar.
If Adobe makes their money off of licenses....that's some decent cheddar.
Oh pleeeeeeeeeze......
Can we ignore this blatant trolling?
It is a valid complaint, but I think it reflects more on the sites that refuse to stop using flash then on Apple.
Can we stop the BS on flash.
Yeah, 'cause the 70 to 75% of the Internet who uses flash is trembling in their ballet shoes.
Please log off the Internet, skippy, as you are not yet ready for it.
Yes, "regular people" demand flash on thier tablet even though everybody in the whole world knew Flash was/is never coming to the iPad. These flash posts must stop.
Anyway, adobe has no flash client ready right now.Not for Android, Blackberry, or WebOS. Its really hard to completely blame Apple for not supporting something THAT DOES NOT EXIST.
Reading NYT on iPad
I "obsessed" over the iPad for months before it came out. Was interested in the conflict with Jobs and Adobe, however I just treated the dialogue as interesting but probably not pertinent to my eventual iPad usage. After receiving the iPad and reading the Times (I get sent an e-mail each morning from Times listing the days news) I am back to using my 15" MBP for reading the Times as most embedded video is Flash driven.
Before the iPad Flash never registered in my consciousness. Now reading the Times --(without being able to view the embedded video is not acceptable. I'm aware of SJ's misgivings about Flash, but until HDML5 is more widely adapted I'll have to use my MBP for Times reading. P.S. Have no significant experience in Flash crashing my MBP.
I "obsessed" over the iPad for months before it came out. Was interested in the conflict with Jobs and Adobe, however I just treated the dialogue as interesting but probably not pertinent to my eventual iPad usage. After receiving the iPad and reading the Times (I get sent an e-mail each morning from Times listing the days news) I am back to using my 15" MBP for reading the Times as most embedded video is Flash driven.
Before the iPad Flash never registered in my consciousness. Now reading the Times --(without being able to view the embedded video is not acceptable. I'm aware of SJ's misgivings about Flash, but until HDML5 is more widely adapted I'll have to use my MBP for Times reading. P.S. Have no significant experience in Flash crashing my MBP.
An interesting thing to look at is pages such as the YouTube beta done in html5 in comparison to flash. Flash is much more of a resource hog it would seem. Put up your CPU meter and compare.
It seems to me that this poor reputation for web sites done with Flash, far predated both the iPhone and the iPad. These just brought the whole issue to the pubic eye.
With these platforms not on board, Apple will likely be successful in forcing a programing change. That means "whoville , " farmcrazy" and "mafiaville" and what ever time sinks exist out there, will no doubt flip over to dual development or htlml5.
It seems to me that this poor reputation for web sites done with Flash, far predated both the iPhone and the iPad. These just brought the whole issue to the pubic eye.
With these platforms not on board, Apple will likely be successful in forcing a programing change. That means "whoville , " farmcrazy" and "mafiaville" and what ever time sinks exist out there, will no doubt flip over to dual development or htlml5.
But... ReallyBigFeet's wife probably does not know how to use CPU meter
and neither do those 100 million farmville users. They are just happy they can play the game they like so Steve Jobs might have a tough case trying to convince them that Flash is inefficient. The first question they would probably ask is "What is Flash?" They might not even know that iPad does not support Flash as such but they will know that iPad does not support Frmville and this is a killer.
Actually, what she said is likely telling. Flash never even came up. She said, more or less, that "This Apple iPad doesn't work with a lot of my websites. I don't like that. I thought it was an Apple?"
In her mind, Apple="it just works." Sure, she's had Adobe Flash updates here and there, just like other system updates. So she couldn't understand why she typed in www.myflashsite.com and it suddenly didn't work. It works on her Macbook....in her mind, this is just a keyboard-less tablet version of the Macbook with some neat features included.
Apple has created an entire legion of users who expect everything they use with the Apple logo to be easy, no fancy work-arounds-needed, fun and productive. Thats an awesome brand reputation. But when you build a rep like that you have to be willing to work to ensure it remains consistent. Maybe Steve is right and Flash would complicate the iPad and detract from the brand he's built. But as they continue to move down the path of consumer electronics, they will expose more and more layers of absolute neophytes that buy their product and don't have a clue about why something works or doesn't, will never listen to a Stevecast or even know what the heck such 'architectural purity laws' do or don't provide. For them, different means "missing something."
I'll wait around. Either the internet will move to see things Steve's way, or Steve will move to see things differently and adopt Flash with a future iteration. Either way, waiting seems like the answer.
In her mind, Apple="it just works." Sure, she's had Adobe Flash updates here and there, just like other system updates. So she couldn't understand why she typed in www.myflashsite.com and it suddenly didn't work. It works on her Macbook....in her mind, this is just a keyboard-less tablet version of the Macbook with some neat features included.
Apple has created an entire legion of users who expect everything they use with the Apple logo to be easy, no fancy work-arounds-needed, fun and productive. Thats an awesome brand reputation. But when you build a rep like that you have to be willing to work to ensure it remains consistent. Maybe Steve is right and Flash would complicate the iPad and detract from the brand he's built. But as they continue to move down the path of consumer electronics, they will expose more and more layers of absolute neophytes that buy their product and don't have a clue about why something works or doesn't, will never listen to a Stevecast or even know what the heck such 'architectural purity laws' do or don't provide. For them, different means "missing something."
I'll wait around. Either the internet will move to see things Steve's way, or Steve will move to see things differently and adopt Flash with a future iteration. Either way, waiting seems like the answer.
Not positive but I *think* this is grounds for divorce in at least a few States...
You do not need a formal divorce with iPad, just return it to the store
The argument is not about whether Flash as a separate technology is good, bad, efficient or not. (It might be power-hungry, but in the meantime it's cost-effective and it allows people to create visually pleasing content with minimal effort. Even Apple's own Mobile Me site is using Flash - oh, the hypocrites!)
Crime is bad, you don't have to agree with it. But that doesn't mean that you live your life like it doesn't exist. Sticking your head into the sand will not make it go away. The mature response would be to acknowledge it and adjust to it.
I think Jobs' personal crusade is pathetic and it should stop. I can decide, whether I want to take advantage of it or not.
Crime is bad, you don't have to agree with it. But that doesn't mean that you live your life like it doesn't exist. Sticking your head into the sand will not make it go away. The mature response would be to acknowledge it and adjust to it.
I think Jobs' personal crusade is pathetic and it should stop. I can decide, whether I want to take advantage of it or not.
My 70YO sister is addicted to Farmville and that is a real problem. I believe addiction to Facebook, is going to become a real problem.
I do use the Facebook app, but I am not interested in a make believe farm. The app is pretty great.
She can download the coupons to her shoppers card and there would be no need to print.
I do use the Facebook app, but I am not interested in a make believe farm. The app is pretty great.
She can download the coupons to her shoppers card and there would be no need to print.
For your wife, Apple's position doesn't make a difference. Adobe hasn't released a full Flash plug-in for ANY mobile device, and doesn't plan to until the 2nd 1/2 of this year. That means that even if Apple were to allow Flash, there wouldn't be a stable player to install on the iPad at this time.
(Yes, I know that the Linux run-time has been hacked into a handful of devices, but that's not sanctioned by Adobe.)
(Yes, I know that the Linux run-time has been hacked into a handful of devices, but that's not sanctioned by Adobe.)
It's not about having security issues, it's about the trend aka the increasing amount of security issues. Big big difference! Adobe needs to put a halt on that ever increasing amount. A lot of products have various issues but they are not rising and manufacturers try to put it to a halt. Microsoft had the same problem as Adobe has now but they fixed it by changing the way they were thinking about security. That change is now paying off because there are less security issues. Adobe has to do the same as Microsoft did. Adobe really needs to take Flash more seriously if they want to make it work.
That's not true at all. Singling out Adobe means you're doing something about your security. And yes, this may be debatable as there are many roads that lead to Rome. Not using it is merely a way of making sure you're more secure. It's not necessarily the best way of doing it and I never claimed it was.