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LOL, yeah, divorce over an iPad. That's funny.

Its called honesty in a relationship. She returns gifts that she knows we paid good money for (I say we because we share our funds) rather than lying about how much she'll use it and letting it secretly gather dust. In return, I get to tell her when her butt looks fat in whatever atrocity passes for style these days. Its worked for over 20 years, I think we'll stick to the plan. :)

No dude, I thought she returned it to you, as in you take it cuz I don't want it. If you guys are gonna return it to the store that great since you said you guys share funds and it'd go to waste. I was just joking, sorry if I seemed like an ass.
 
Well, I actually know other people in the same shoes. Bought an iPad, knew about the limitations - but it's another thing to actually see the amount of websites that contain Flash in one form or another.

There is no excuse for not supporting it. Make it user-switchable, Jobs! Oh, now you cannot, because you would lose face... Well, then lose sales!

Of course there is a reason, sites that don't use flash correctly could brick the ipad. Ever go to a flash site on your mac and hear how hard it makes the processor work? Just think a much smaller machine chugging on that, how do you think that would turn out?

If adobe could make flash actual work, I am sure apple would change their view on flash.
 
There is no excuse for not supporting it. Make it user-switchable, Jobs! Oh, now you cannot, because you would lose face... Well, then lose sales!

Yeh, but it doesn't appear that he's losing much in the way of sales.

Anyway, I can't even think how many times I've heard similar doom/gloom predictions about Apple sales. One that sticks in my mind is when the original iMac came out without a floppy drive. OMG that was going to be the end of the company. I remember when conventional wisdom predicted utter failure for the Apple retail store concept. Apple has a history of tendency to defy and beat conventional wisdom.

Apple and Adobe have been butting heads viciously for 20 years, everything from Postscript to FCP to PDF. This is just one more chapter in the story.
 
Coupons. Try a site called The Grocery Game.

As for flash, I don't miss all the website ads one bit.
 
Coupons. Try a site called The Grocery Game.

As for flash, I don't miss all the website ads one bit.

The Webads and flash argument is really silly.

If they see the market is moving to HTML5 there will be HTML5 webads crappy and annoying programmed stuff will always be crappy and annoying regardless of platform. Sorry but the web runs on ads. If there wasn't ads lots of the internet would be out of business.

It's amazing with all the negative feedback this post got. I thought it was really informing (btw i have an iPad with all the works). After being told how much i didn't need flash I began to believe it.. But after a few weeks of owning the iPad I'm seeing that actually that isn't true at all. There are many good sites and aps that I miss out of because there is no flash. I think a lot of people feel the same way. Same goes for the iPad being a productivity replacement. While Pages and Numbers are great as mobile apps. They still don't compare to what I can do with the full laptop versions.

Never even thought of the problems with Facebook and their flash games. While I hate them with a passion (Stop asking me to join your %$#@#$@ Mafia!!!!) I know a lot of people hooked on them.
 
The Webads and flash argument is really silly.

If they see the market is moving to HTML5 there will be HTML5 webads crappy and annoying programmed stuff will always be crappy and annoying regardless of platform. Sorry but the web runs on ads. If there wasn't ads lots of the internet would be out of business.
Funny thing is...iAds is html5. It's just another language you can use for ads and Flash is no different. The webads argument is indeed really silly, just like you said.

It's amazing with all the negative feedback this post got. I thought it was really informing (btw i have an iPad with all the works).
It's the 2938472988472974 topic about Flash on the iPad/iPhone/iPod Touch. If it were the first one it would have been informing but now it's just "another Flash topic". People have been discussing this since the introduction of the first iPhone and hating it for not having Flash because they couldn't play all those Flash games on it.
 
It's amazing with all the negative feedback this post got.

Yeah, me too. I guess I should have realized how defensive some users can get when they feel that something they deem as innovative/indispensable is being besmirched in some way. I do wish to point out that at no time did my wife ever say she thought the device was NOT innovative nor useless. She found it cute, useful in some ways and very convenient to hold/use. It just didn't do what SHE wanted it to do.

I thought about hanging onto it for myself but my neighbors wife heard from my wife that I was going to ebay it and she wanted to buy one for her husband. So its gone now. Chapter closed for this round.
 
Yeah, me too. I guess I should have realized how defensive some users can get when they feel that something they deem as innovative/indispensable is being besmirched in some way. I do wish to point out that at no time did my wife ever say she thought the device was NOT innovative nor useless. She found it cute, useful in some ways and very convenient to hold/use. It just didn't do what SHE wanted it to do.

I thought about hanging onto it for myself but my neighbors wife heard from my wife that I was going to ebay it and she wanted to buy one for her husband. So its gone now. Chapter closed for this round.

Glad to see you were able to unload it fast. The negative is for the reasons you say. You see, it's my opinion that not too many people have $500 - $850 to just throw down on what is really just a giant media player (be it print/movie/music) and in life people are going to defend their purchases. I'm not offended if someone tells me that my iPad is the worst device ever or a total waste of money. I've actually wasted much more than that and no one in Vegas gave two ***** when I did. Just know that you bought your wife something that you thought she'd value and she didn't. The negatives are because people aren't intelligent enough to simply equate this to the fact that the iPad will not meet everyone's needs but you gave it a shot, so file their opinions under who gives a crap?

Opinions are like *******s, we all have them and they all stink.
 
Originally Posted by ReallyBigFeet View Post
LOL, yeah, divorce over an iPad. That's funny.

Its called honesty in a relationship. She returns gifts that she knows we paid good money for (I say we because we share our funds) rather than lying about how much she'll use it and letting it secretly gather dust. In return, I get to tell her when her butt looks fat in whatever atrocity passes for style these days. Its worked for over 20 years, I think we'll stick to the plan.

A wife with a fat ass that doesn't like her iPad. I feel sorry for you!
 
Lol...my dad said he didn't want an iPad for the same reason. And he knows nothing about technology. Just did not like that some of his sites did not work.

I am certain steve leaving out flash is bc of money tied to the app store...more so than stability for the users. Apple could've optimized flash if they wanted to. They are a highly capable company.

Now all we can do but wait until the rest of the Internet adopts html5. I hope the wait is not as long as I think it is.
 
Yeah, me too. I guess I should have realized how defensive some users can get when they feel that something they deem as innovative/indispensable is being besmirched in some way.

Yeah...don't say anything negative about the iPad in an Ipad forum...even if it's a valid point. I've seen so many people raising valid points get jumped on for it.
 
Lol...my dad said he didn't want an iPad for the same reason. And he knows nothing about technology. Just did not like that some of his sites did not work.

I am certain steve leaving out flash is bc of money tied to the app store...more so than stability for the users. Apple could've optimized flash if they wanted to. They are a highly capable company.

Now all we can do but wait until the rest of the Internet adopts html5. I hope the wait is not as long as I think it is.

Does he have a big butt? If so, i am seeing a pattern...:D
 
Actually, what she said is likely telling. Flash never even came up. She said, more or less, that "This Apple iPad doesn't work with a lot of my websites. I don't like that. I thought it was an Apple?"

In her mind, Apple="it just works." Sure, she's had Adobe Flash updates here and there, just like other system updates. So she couldn't understand why she typed in www.myflashsite.com and it suddenly didn't work. It works on her Macbook....in her mind, this is just a keyboard-less tablet version of the Macbook with some neat features included.

Apple has created an entire legion of users who expect everything they use with the Apple logo to be easy, no fancy work-arounds-needed, fun and productive. Thats an awesome brand reputation. But when you build a rep like that you have to be willing to work to ensure it remains consistent. Maybe Steve is right and Flash would complicate the iPad and detract from the brand he's built. But as they continue to move down the path of consumer electronics, they will expose more and more layers of absolute neophytes that buy their product and don't have a clue about why something works or doesn't, will never listen to a Stevecast or even know what the heck such 'architectural purity laws' do or don't provide. For them, different means "missing something."

I'll wait around. Either the internet will move to see things Steve's way, or Steve will move to see things differently and adopt Flash with a future iteration. Either way, waiting seems like the answer.

I have to say that is the best argument I've heard yet in the whole flash/no flash debate and completely agree.

Kudos to you. :apple:
 
Hey OP, you are right, the device isn't for everyone. Lack of flash occasionally annoys me, but it isn't that big of a deal. I know at least one person who thought they could transition to the ipad, in this case a realtor, who failed to realize she couldn't edit pdf files on the device, or print, and i think had problems with whatever their main site with listings is.

I continue to be amazed at some of the childish responses in these forums.
 
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