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Native Blu-ray ripping for OS X is finally here!

Well, I picked up the Sony BC-5100S drive and the Vantec enclosure listed above from newegg and it arrived today. Set up everything and it was instantly recognized in OS X.

I fired up makemkv and after fumbling around with the interface for a bit, I ripped Matrix and Matrix reloaded without an issues, both took just under an hour for the main title only and the Dolby Digital track, no sub titles, extra features. I remuxxed them using tsmuxer in to m2ts files and over night I'll encode them with the latest svn of handbrake. I was having video issues bringing the straight mkv video into handbrake, so the m2ts file seemed to work a lot better. It only adds an extra 5 minutes to the workflow.

So far, I like what I am seeing... I tried figuring out the blu-ray thing on the windows side, and anydvd trial just wasn't cooperating like it was for my 360 hd-dvd player.

I'll post the results of the handbrake encodes and playback on the appletv tomorrow at some point.
 
donster28 said:
Just curious, will the Turbo HD dongle help speed up my conversion from MKV to Apple TV?
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If the Turbo HD is anything like the original Turbo.264 then GOOD LUCK! The T.264 was the biggest piece of junk I ever bought and Elgato constantly lied about its faults to avoid having to give any money back. I'd avoid it...
 
After you rip the BR disc, can you re-burn onto another BR disc for backup? I just don't have the space on my hard drives for that kind of backup...I want to make a 1:1 duplicate, menus, audio streams, etc.

I want to make sure those $40 movies don't get ruined by a scratch or something...Not really interested in re-encoding for ATV...
 
I am using the makemv program.

Sorry guys but it finally finished and there is only audio.

It complains about some missing codecs. Took like 24 hours
 
I have a Phillips spd7000p

It is ripping at .2x.

What is wrong here? I am running latest firmware.

It takes like 24 hours to rip. What us wrong?
 
mmoran27 said:
It is ripping at .2x.

What is wrong here? I am running latest firmware.

It takes like 24 hours to rip. What us wrong?
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Are you plugged into a usb hub? Is it USB 1.1?

I'm plugged directly into the back of my iMac, usb 2.0, rip at 2x on my 5x drive.
 
makemkv success rate

Folks,

What is the success rate that you are seeing with this admittedly beta/early program.

I have about 50 BD disks to go through and thought I would start with the kids first (these are all UK).

Star Wars - Clone Wars (failed to find and decent tracks or length - might be the way it's placed on the disk)
Cars - Worked fine and moved to 720p in HB svn build for the ATV
The Polar Express - Failed to write track ???
Transformers (animated) - Left ripping and went to work.

So potentially a 50% success rate so far. Do I need to think about getting a Win7/AnyDVD-HD boot camp setup for the failures ?

Cheers
Paul
 
Just a follow up, both Matrix and Matrix Reloaded encoded properly and imported into iTunes just fine. I used the default AppleTV preset on handbrake and bumped up the resolution to around 1200 x whatever (500-something, I think). The AC3 file passed thru correctly and I have perfectly synced Dolby Digital when played back on the AppleTV in the living room.

Assuming this works a decent number of Blu-ray discs (and it can only get better), I think we have a winner here for staying entirely in OS X.
 
glowrider said:
After you rip the BR disc, can you re-burn onto another BR disc for backup? I just don't have the space on my hard drives for that kind of backup...I want to make a 1:1 duplicate, menus, audio streams, etc.

I want to make sure those $40 movies don't get ruined by a scratch or something...Not really interested in re-encoding for ATV...
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let me ask why you would want another 1:1 bluray disc when bluray discs are almost scratch proof? wouldn't this be redundant?

ripping the movie makes sense, this way you can watch the movie from your hard drive without using your bluray disk, tucked away in safety.

a 1:1 copy of a bluray to another recordable bluray will cost you a pretty penny considering a blank bdr 50gigger is around $40-60. a work around to this is ripping the movie only to AVCHD which you can fit a blank DVD and play as a hidef disk on your PS3. i tried this and it took me 24-40hrs to transcode to AVCHD in windows using bdrebuilder.

plus, ripping the movie only in 720p (appletv format mp4) will only take about 6gigs per movie. this comes up to about 160 high definition movies in a 1TB hard drive that costs peanuts.
 
donster28 said:
technically, the no. next to 1280 should be 720 (hence 720p). but for some reason, some discs show up with a lower number after opening them in handbrake. but you should still get a good resolution with the lower number.
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The Second number is the vertical resolution. If a movie is encoded in 2.4:1, as many movies are, the vertical resolution would be 544, not 720 (which is the resolution for 16:9).
 
donster28 said:
technically, the no. next to 1280 should be 720 (hence 720p). but for some reason, some discs show up with a lower number after opening them in handbrake. but you should still get a good resolution with the lower number.
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Technically, the yes. See above reply. Might I also suggest you read up on Aspect Ratios ;)
 
Crushing the ripped BD file with HB for ATV (using Caveman's settings recommendations) I noticed some stuttering as I first watched it, streaming, for the first time. It's possible it was caused by the largess of streaming. I'm going to pipe it over to the ATV drive and check it's performance sans the stream. There was some pixelation in the most glorious shots of such things as a wide-angle of thousands of birds in flight, et.. Otherwise it was a fairly jaw droppingly beautiful rip.

The audio was AC-3 and was problematic using the built-in TV's audio, as opposed to the amplifier and surround system, which will be tested today.

The pixelation and any BD flaws from ripping is something I'm hopeful will be fixed. I'm not sure it's worth the time and effort of ripping with such results. That's not a complaint or anything. YMMV.
 
uraniumwilly said:
Crushing the ripped BD file with HB for ATV (using Caveman's settings recommendations) I noticed some stuttering as I first watched it, streaming, for the first time. It's possible it was caused by the largess of streaming. I'm going to pipe it over to the ATV drive and check it's performance sans the stream. There was some pixelation in the most glorious shots of such things as a wide-angle of thousands of birds in flight, et.. Otherwise it was a fairly jaw droppingly beautiful rip.

The audio was AC-3 and was problematic using the built-in TV's audio, as opposed to the amplifier and surround system, which will be tested today.

The pixelation and any BD flaws from ripping is something I'm hopeful will be fixed. I'm not sure it's worth the time and effort of ripping with such results. That's not a complaint or anything. YMMV.
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i do not notice any pixelations on my appletv compatible rips so far. the only gripe i found is the slightly poor quality of the 'graydation' (from light to dark colour) that i found in a scene from 'ratatoullie' (i hope i spelled that right). i am seeing banding. a slight increase in the bit rate might fix this. otherwise, all of my other rips are gorgeous with no noticeable artifacting.

my apple tv streaming is flawless with no stuttering. i am running a wirelss N network.

the sound on mine throught the tv is normal as well the AC3 output through my surround system. it sounds good and proper to my ears.

i suggest you check your system specs and upgrade from there. from what i can see, the problems you're having are system related.
 
" i do not notice any pixelations on my appletv compatible rips so far."

I'm happy to hear of that. Did you do 1920?

"i suggest you check your system specs and upgrade from there. from what i can see, the problems you're having are system related."

I definitely will. I'll re-examine my settings and redo the Handbrake. Maybe the system problems lie in some minor config. Thanks for responding.
 
Well, after reading this thread I got very excited and bought an LG GGW-H20L, fitted it into my Mac Pro and connected it to the ODD-SATA. I was then left with the tough decision of what films to buy to test this on, so I opted for a coule of golden oldies - The Italian Job and Ghostbusters :D

I started with The Italian Job by ripping it with makemkv which produced a file of approx. 18.6GB. I then used the latest svn of handbrake (with the settings recommended by Cave Man in the Blu-Ray to Apple TV thread), and the quality is excellent. The file produced by handbrake was approx. 2.9GB. However, the first 1-2 mins of the film are missing and the same at the end :confused:. I opened the MKV in VLC and it is the same there. Is it possible that the start and end of the film are in different titles? And if so is this a common thing on Blu-Ray discs?

I then proceeded to rip Ghostbusters. Again, makemkv produced a file of approx. 18GB. I then used Handbrake, with the same settings used previously, only this time it produced a file of approx. 5.7GB which wont sync with the appletv. To make sure I hadn't messed things up I redid the hole process but still had the same result. Is there a limit on the size of file that can be synced with the appletv? Also, If you have two MKV's of similar size, wouldn't you expect the output of handbrake to be similar in size (assuming you used the same settings)?

Cheers,
Adrian
 
aidym said:
it produced and file of approx. 5.7GB which wont sync with the appletv
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You need to click large size for films that are over 4GB (I found this out the hard way :( )

Oh and most Blu-ray's I have ripped the feature is one whole thing and not on anything else, I think maybe MakeMKV has an issue.
 
northy124 said:
You need to click large size for films that are over 4GB (I found this out the hard way :( )

Oh and most Blu-ray's I have ripped the feature is one whole thing and not on anything else, I think maybe MakeMKV has an issue.
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I used the AppleTV preset so by default the 'Large file size' option is already selected.
 
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