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You need to get out more, i know 19 and 20 years olds with a X and they work at a checkout and buy their coffee at McDonalds :)

I have 2 teen sons for who, as their wealthy father, I purchased iPhone X's for at Christmas. Not the same thing. Offspring are an anomaly. Count how many recent college graduates and new parents have iPhone X's. Not many.
 
I have 2 teen sons for who, as their wealthy father, I purchased iPhone X's for at Christmas. Not the same thing. Offspring are an anomaly. Count how many recent college graduates and new parents have iPhone X's. Not many.

It's just a phone man, doesn't matter how wealthy or not you are anyone can buy on contract. $100 a month here with 20gb data unlimited calls/texts. 2 cups of Coffee ;)

I know one 20 year old who works in a cake chop with one, when he came home and showed his sister who works in a supermarket she went down and got one, that blows your theory.
 
I have 2 teen sons for who, as their wealthy father, I purchased iPhone X's for at Christmas. Not the same thing. Offspring are an anomaly. Count how many recent college graduates and new parents have iPhone X's. Not many.
Do you have to bring your wealth up all the time? Isn’t it good enough to be a 1%? You just have to ram it home how superior people with money are. My grandfather was a millionaire and he killed himself. Money doesn’t buy happiness for everyone.
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Don’t tell these things to boltjames. He wants to believe only the “special people” can have a X. He refuses to believe he’s not “special”.
Lol
 
Funny thing is you could be the richest person in the world or a teenager checkout chick and still own Apples most expensive iPhone X.
Unless you could get them to gold plate one with diamonds :)

Not many checkout chicks could buy a top of the line BMW though.
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I have 2 teen sons for who, as their wealthy father, I purchased iPhone X's for at Christmas

I was mean i only got mine a iPhone 8 lol. Got my wife a 8 plus 256gb though, i didn't think she deserved the X :)
She hasn't reached trophy wife status yet ;)

Out of interest if you are so loaded why do you still own iPad air 2's? IMO they were the worst iPads so far and i have had them all, vibrating speakers and terrible screen distortion.
 
If there was a battery case by Apple for the X. I’d own one. The 8 is to close to my 7 so I won’t move. I think this is why the X has not sold well.
 
This is how I see it:
In the big countries where you can pay the price of the iPhone x in installments i.e US/GB/DE etc where you get the X $/€/£ 50 a month then most of the average joe can get it.

In smaller countries where you need to pay full px, then only the “well off” people can afford it.

Example: i live in Czech Republic, and personally i know no more than 5 people with an iPX (including me) in a town of 1.5 milion. They are all well off. On the other hand, i see many american tourist tenage girl backpackers with one as well.

Its all about the payment plans my friends.
 
Software wise, they could do better. Overall I'm satisfied with the X. I don't see many that own one though. I see more 7's and 8's. A lot with a 6s as well.
I agree. I don't see much folks with the X, but I do see a lot of folks who still uses their 7 plus and 8 plus. I think most folks who have the 7 plus are not planning to upgrade since it is still a good device, but those who still uses the 6S plus and before would most likely want to upgrade for the 7plus/8plus. Not much jump for the X.
 
Anyone can afford a $50 cup of coffee, right? I mean, it's only $50.

But the people who actually reach in their pockets and spend $50 on a cup of coffee? You won't find many. They are the very discriminating and very wealthy. A $2,000 bottle of wine? A $1,000 a night hotel room? A $100 wool scarf? These aren't dollar amounts that would break anyone's budget but good luck finding Average Joe's spending this kind of coin.

iPhone X, same thing. You can say "but...but...but it's only blah blah dollars" all you want, it's not a matter of the aggregate dollar amount. It's about what people find as an acceptable price and what type of person to which that barrier is not an issue or a consideration.
I think it’s clear your reasons for owning it are quite unique and what many would perhaps label as tragic. You bought one because you think it gives you ‘status’ whereas those other people who could afford one but didn’t buy one decided their current iPhones are good enough. In your case it’s the difference between poser and modest consumer and it’s why you face so much opposition on here. Most people are not like you. You’re very entertaining though.
 
If there was a battery case by Apple for the X. I’d own one. The 8 is to close to my 7 so I won’t move. I think this is why the X has not sold well.

You can’t say the iPhone X has not sold well, because it was the top-selling iPhone every week since it’s launch in November according to Cook. Is it going to be the top selling iPhone of all time? Likely not. But Apple offering the iPhone 8 was still a wise decision, because the iPhone X is not for everybody for various reasons, where the iPhone 8 is cheaper and has familiarity.
 
Rumours are starting to gain momentum that this year’s X will cost £100 less with an introduction of a Plus variant too. I remember somebody saying the Plus would never happen but lots of evidence from industry insiders that it’s on the cards due to demand.

Will a slightly cheaper X still be for ‘special people’ too?
 
Rumours are starting to gain momentum that this year’s X will cost £100 less with an introduction of a Plus variant too. I remember somebody saying the Plus would never happen but lots of evidence from industry insiders that it’s on the cards due to demand.

Will a slightly cheaper X still be for ‘special people’ too?

I’m guessing the “special people” will then buy the Plus model and still feel superior because the poor ones bought the £100 cheaper model.
 
Rumours are starting to gain momentum that this year’s X will cost £100 less with an introduction of a Plus variant too. I remember somebody saying the Plus would never happen but lots of evidence from industry insiders that it’s on the cards due to demand.

Will a slightly cheaper X still be for ‘special people’ too?

I’m guessing the “special people” will then buy the Plus model and still feel superior because the poor ones bought the £100 cheaper model.

I think if Apple had a viewpoint If they read this thread, they would say the iPhone is for anybody who wants one. There is no specific demographic for anyone to not have an iPhone X, it’s just a matter how they actually achieve one. But as other examples are in this thread, anyone working at a local coffee shop could an own an iPhone X all the way up to corporate executive for a fortune 500 company.
 
This thread is seriously Off the topic :)
It's kinda trying to find a relation between having an iphone X and personality type/Wealth!

I my opinion, In some countries having the X can be a big deal because not many people have it/ buy it
but calling someone rich because they have 1000$ to pay for a phone Is just crazy,
I mean real rich people buy high-end Cars not 1000$ phones there are lots of Super-expensive luxury phones alout there and i dont consider the X a "luxury phone"
And How People Think about someone Because They have Iphone x depends On the person, the country they're living in and lots of things but i don't see why it should matter

Hope this puts an end to this!
 
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This thread is seriously Off the topic :)
It's kinda trying to find a relation between having an iphone X and personality type/Wealth!

I my opinion, In some countries having the X can be a big deal because not many people have it/ buy it
but calling someone rich because they have 1000$ to pay for a phone Is just crazy,
I mean real rich people buy high-end Cars not 1000$ phones there are lots of Super-expensive luxury phones alout there and i dont consider the X a "luxury phone"
And How People Think about someone Because They have Iphone x depends On the person, the country they're living in and lots of things but i don't see why it should matter

Hope this puts an end to this!

100% agree!

No matter how you slice it, $1000 for an iPhone is too much. It has nothing to do with if you have the money or not, or if you finance it. When you're talking at large, it's too high of a price tag to be a mind blowing success. It's not really something to argue against - rumours are already circulating the next version will be $100 less.
 
I think there are 4 reasons why the iPhone X has not lived up expectations:
  1. The smartphone market is saturated. Everyone who wants a smartphone has one so there is no 'new' marketshare to pick up - Apple's big push into China over the last few years has boosted numbers but can't go much further.
  2. As hardware becomes more powerful (around the iPhone 6S/A9) there has been less need to upgrade beyond a desire for the latest features.
  3. The cost has crept up. The £1000/$1000 price made headlines in the regular press around the world which would have made quite a few few people that don't follow tech take notice and reconsider upgrading. Yes, the X is 'only a little more per month' than before but for some people that may have pushed them past breaking point. It also would have put up the monthly cost for people who are happy to pay £40-50/month and then £100 or so every year to get the latest phone without thinking who may reconsider upping the monthly spend.
  4. The X itself isn't that special to warrant the price increase. People who wanted a larger screen and/or the better camera were already happy with the Plus. Whilst there was a pent up demand for a larger screen with the iPhone 6 supercycle, surely there wasn't such a demand for an edge-to-edge screen. FaceID, removal of the home button and an-edge-to-edge screen probably aren't that important to a lot of people (i.e. rather than be put off by the notch or lack of TouchID, the new features are a bit 'meh')

Now that the inadvertant battery/throttling issues have come to light and Apple have been forced (rumour) to abandon some of the iOS12 plans in place of getting it stable and bug-free it is likely that a lot more people will spend £29 to get there 6s and 7-era phones through another year unless Apple unleashes something spectacular in September.

There may be a pent up demand for even larger screens if the rumoured 6.1" LCD and 6.5" X2 Plus come to fruition and I can see iPHone sales rising again this year so long as these models come and the pricing is more restrained, but I can't see sales ever matching the iPhone 5s/6 days until a game-changing feature comes along.
 
I think two reasons covers it:
1. Apple doesn’t release sales figures, leading to
2. News outlets making up clickbait stories
That’s a good point, in reality we don’t know if the iPhone has ever been successful. It could have just been our misguided perceptions all along as Apple only ever tell us everything is gravy. It could all be a ruse.
 
I think there are 4 reasons why the iPhone X has not lived up to expectations.

In a sense, you really can’t say that because we don’t have actual numbers proving otherwise, only to know specifically what Cook said during a statement that the iPhone X was the best selling iPhone every week since it’s launch back November. What we do know, is the iPhone X is not going to be for every consumer, Apple knows this and so does the consumer. Why? Because the price point and technology hasn’t been accepted by everybody, which is exactly why Apple offered the iPhone 8 in a similar form factor with similar internals at a cheaper price point. Smart phone costs in general are in the rise, but consumers are slow to upgrade because they’re likely content with what their current iPhone does already.
 
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I think there are 4 reasons why the iPhone X has not lived up expectations:
  1. The smartphone market is saturated. Everyone who wants a smartphone has one so there is no 'new' marketshare to pick up - Apple's big push into China over the last few years has boosted numbers but can't go much further.
  2. As hardware becomes more powerful (around the iPhone 6S/A9) there has been less need to upgrade beyond a desire for the latest features.
  3. The cost has crept up. The £1000/$1000 price made headlines in the regular press around the world which would have made quite a few few people that don't follow tech take notice and reconsider upgrading. Yes, the X is 'only a little more per month' than before but for some people that may have pushed them past breaking point. It also would have put up the monthly cost for people who are happy to pay £40-50/month and then £100 or so every year to get the latest phone without thinking who may reconsider upping the monthly spend.
  4. The X itself isn't that special to warrant the price increase. People who wanted a larger screen and/or the better camera were already happy with the Plus. Whilst there was a pent up demand for a larger screen with the iPhone 6 supercycle, surely there wasn't such a demand for an edge-to-edge screen. FaceID, removal of the home button and an-edge-to-edge screen probably aren't that important to a lot of people (i.e. rather than be put off by the notch or lack of TouchID, the new features are a bit 'meh')

Now that the inadvertant battery/throttling issues have come to light and Apple have been forced (rumour) to abandon some of the iOS12 plans in place of getting it stable and bug-free it is likely that a lot more people will spend £29 to get there 6s and 7-era phones through another year unless Apple unleashes something spectacular in September.

There may be a pent up demand for even larger screens if the rumoured 6.1" LCD and 6.5" X2 Plus come to fruition and I can see iPHone sales rising again this year so long as these models come and the pricing is more restrained, but I can't see sales ever matching the iPhone 5s/6 days until a game-changing feature comes along.
How is it known the iPhone X hasn’t lived up to expectations? And whose expectations? Yours or apples?

I think it has and was an “experiment “ by Apple for the future.
 
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I believe that Apple were using the X as a marketing tool to see how much money people are prepared to pay / pay per month for a iPhone.
Here in the UK, it is around £80 a month on a tarif with £150 upfront if you want the 256GB version which is essential in my opinion. 64GB just doesn't do it in 2018.
That's £2000 over 2 years or £10,000 over 10 years. Crazy to most people. Also £20 extra a month will get you a brand new car - Fiat 500 on a contract hire.
I have the X and two of my friends have BUT i've certainly not seen any other professionals rocking them. In fact the only ones that I do see are on Instagram :) I also get 25% off my monthly tarif. I have a rule were i'll never pay more than £50/55 a month for a phone. I have loads of interests and love holidays, eating out with friends, art, interior design, clothes, surfing & biking gear. I spend my money on that AND like to save my money / invest.
It's beautifully made & designed. But, it's the price and the fact that this is something that is used 90% outside of your safe home. In the big cities, it's asking for trouble having this out in public. After being mugged last week and seeing several people attacked since with 20+ cars vandalised, it's really opened my eyes to carry super expensive things around with you. With insurance and Apple care, you're paying over £100 a month - every month - that's 2 or 3 holidays to Ibiza a year asa comparison!
Same with the Beats Pro headphones. I saw a guy wearing them near Camden tube one evening - nobody around, total darkness and these H U G E bling bling things were practically shouting '£400 headphones here, come mug me'.

I remember when we were all horrified with the original iPhone prices and now look :)
I do feel that Apple have overdone it with their range of new and old iPhones currently on sale. It's a mess. SE, 6S, 7, 8, X and those plus sizes.
Personally, I preferred it when there was just one model in the range like in the iPhone 4, 4S days. People actually got excited about their launches in those days.
 
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I believe that Apple were using the X as a marketing tool to see how much money people are prepared to pay / pay per month for a iPhone.
Here in the UK, it is around £80 a month on a tarif with £150 upfront if you want the 256GB version which is essential in my opinion. 64GB just doesn't do it in 2018.
That's £2000 over 2 years or £10,000 over 10 years. Crazy to most people. Also £20 extra a month will get you a brand new car - Fiat 500 on a contract hire.
I have the X and two of my friends have BUT i've certainly not seen any other professionals rocking them. In fact the only ones that I do see are on Instagram :) I also get 25% off my monthly tarif. I have a rule were i'll never pay more than £50/55 a month for a phone. I have loads of interests and love holidays, eating out with friends, art, interior design, clothes, surfing & biking gear. I spend my money on that AND like to save my money / invest.
It's beautifully made & designed. But, it's the price and the fact that this is something that is used 90% outside of your safe home. In the big cities, it's asking for trouble having this out in public. After being mugged last week and seeing several people attacked since with 20+ cars vandalised, it's really opened my eyes to carry super expensive things around with you. With insurance and Apple care, you're paying over £100 a month - every month - that's 2 or 3 holidays to Ibiza a year asa comparison!
Same with the Beats Pro headphones. I saw a guy wearing them near Camden tube one evening - nobody around, total darkness and these H U G E bling bling things were practically shouting '£400 headphones here, come mug me'.

I remember when we were all horrified with the original iPhone prices and now look :)
I do feel that Apple have overdone it with their range of new and old iPhones currently on sale. It's a mess. SE, 6S, 7, 8, X and those plus sizes.
Personally, I preferred it when there was just one model in the range like in the iPhone 4, 4S days. People actually got excited about their launches in those days.
I think there are benefits to launching Just one Phone ,maybe less bugs ,and maybe having a fantastic phone with fewer bugs instead of 2-3phones with more bugs ...
I mean apple is a big company but releasing Lots of Phones every year ?
I'm not with that, although people demand that from apple in my opinion.
But sometimes people might not know what they want
they might not Know if the company Releases many phones the quality of each model might not be as good as it was Used to be

But i hink it was almost impossible for apple to hold on to that mind set
Cause Samsung and other brands come up with lots of phones every year and maybe having multiple models increases the Total sales
I don't Know God only knows!
God bless✝️
 
I think there are benefits to launching Just one Phone ,maybe less bugs ,and maybe having a fantastic phone with fewer bugs instead of 2-3phones with more bugs

I believe that Apple were using the X as a marketing tool to see how much money people are prepared to pay / pay per month for a iPhone.

"Bugs"? The iPhone X has no bugs, in fact, it's the most stable and speedy iPhone I've ever owned and I've owned them all, not to mention it's primarily an iteration of a set of technologies that's over 10 years old, and you think it's a beta device?

"Marketing tool"? The iPhone X is the best selling iPhone every week since its launch in November, but you think it's some test like some new flavor of Jello?

The level of comedy is reaching epic heights.

How about this folks: The iPhone X is the perfect smartphone, in only a few months it has become the best selling product of the world's largest smartphone company, and just because you think it's too expensive doesn't mean it is. It just means you don't understand who Apple is as the largest luxury electronics brand in the world because you got a bunch of free iPhone's from your mobile carrier for awhile and think it should always be that way.
 
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"Bugs"? The iPhone X has no bugs, in fact, it's the most stable and speedy iPhone I've ever owned and I've owned them all, not to mention it's primarily an iteration of a set of technologies that's over 10 years old, and you think it's a beta device?

"Marketing tool"? The iPhone X is the best selling iPhone every week since its launch in November, but you think it's some test like some new flavor of Jello?

The level of comedy is reaching epic heights.

How about this folks: The iPhone X is the perfect smartphone, in only a few months it has become the best selling product of the world's largest smartphone company, and just because you think it's too expensive doesn't mean it is. It just means you don't understand who Apple is as the largest luxury electronics brand in the world because you got a bunch of free iPhone's from your mobile carrier for awhile and think it should always be that way.

Agree---

3 members of my family on this iPhone and no issues. best smartphone i have ever owned. is it perfect-no. is it for everyone--no. but dang close. this is the immediate future for smartphones--

not sure why thread is still on-going. but, hey--we all need something to b--ch about--:)

Also, tired of the pricing complaints. Yes, it is a lot of money for most people. So, don't buy it if too much. Those of us who bought an iPhone 6s Plus over 2 YEARS ago spent within 150.00 of the X's cost. Whether it is worth the cost is an individual choice.
 
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