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I want lighter as well. I loved my iPhone 6. Perfect weight. The plus sizes and now the regular and max pro sizes are way too heavy. I have a 13 Pro and it feels heavy. My girlfriend has SE and it's so much lighter to handle.
 
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I never used to care about this, but the 13 Pro Max is far too heavy this time around. I almost couldn't believe they managed to make it heavier than the 12 PM. I have big hands and it's still tiring to hold for long periods of time or any period of time at certain angles.
So that no one else has to look it up,
13 Pro Max 240g versus
12 Pro Max 228g

That’s an imperceptible amount over an even more imperceptible amount (slightly over 2 nickels roughly 10 grams). As a comparison, you can increase the weight of an iPhone 13 Pro Max by over 8 times as much by just buying an Apple Silicone MagSafe case. 82.78 grams.
 



 
I never used to care about this, but the 13 Pro Max is far too heavy this time around. I almost couldn't believe they managed to make it heavier than the 12 PM. I have big hands and it's still tiring to hold for long periods of time or any period of time at certain angles.

And to add insult to injury, they made the sides square so that they cut into your hands. Nice!

Steve Jobs has definitely left the building.
 
The iPhone 13 is just 4 grams heavier than your old S5 Active (174g vs 170g). Don't tell me that's a lot for you. The iPhone 13 mini is lighter (141g) and has larger screen than your S5 Active.
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People like expensive premium devices. Apple is aware of this ever since they released the 5c which was a god damn travesty.

The original SE is aluminium btw and has the same build quality as the 5/5S.
That's right, I meant 5c
 
speaking of the 13 mini, my co-worker has one and I kinda like it.

I will need to carry a tablet just for emails though.
 
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So that no one else has to look it up,
13 Pro Max 240g versus
12 Pro Max 228g

That’s an imperceptible amount over an even more imperceptible amount (slightly over 2 nickels roughly 10 grams). As a comparison, you can increase the weight of an iPhone 13 Pro Max by over 8 times as much by just buying an Apple Silicone MagSafe case. 82.78 grams.

I don't use cases. If you ever find the opportunity to, hold a 12 Pro Max and 13 Pro Max side by side. It's much more apparent than the numbers would suggest. It's also the balance of the device that feels odd this time around. It's weird to use in bed or in any relaxed position because it's become very top heavy or something, can't put my finger on exactly what has changed here. I think simply moving away from stainless steel would help a lot with overall weight.

And surely they can't get heavier from here, right? XS Max was 208g, 11 Pro Max was 225g, 12 Pro Max 228g, 13 Pro Max 240g. I think we have to hit a plateau at some point and start improving on this. At least the Pro and Pro Max are at feature parity now, though. Can always step down to the smaller size I suppose.
 
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I don’t get people that say they like a heavy feel because it’s premium. My Breitling is titanium and feels much better than a stainless watch. To me light weight is premium. It requires more design. Frankly the first thing I do is get an apple case for my phone. I don’t tend to care what it’s made of. If they made the 13mini with a plastic back I’d be all over it. Carbon fiber that can hold charge is the next big thing. Then solid state glass batteries.
 
Lighter means a smaller battery and less Ram
After using an iPhone for a short period you get used to the weight
 
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Lighter means a smaller battery and less Ram
After using an iPhone for a short period you get used to the weight
:D I don't think the weight of RAM chips are that significant... LOL.

Battery, sure. But structure material is still going to be the biggest and significant contributor. The non Pro iPhones don't have any problems keeping the weight low thanks to aluminum. The iPhone 13 is lighter than the iPhone 11, while having more storage and larger battery.
 
I don’t get people that say they like a heavy feel because it’s premium. My Breitling is titanium and feels much better than a stainless watch. To me light weight is premium. It requires more design. Frankly the first thing I do is get an apple case for my phone. I don’t tend to care what it’s made of. If they made the 13mini with a plastic back I’d be all over it. Carbon fiber that can hold charge is the next big thing. Then solid state glass batteries.
Yup. Plastic gets a bad rap, but with proper treatment, they can feel premium while being light and supporting wireless charging. Perfect example is the Galaxy S21, where just at a glance, you won't be able to tell the difference between its matte plastic back with the glass back on the S21+/Ultra. Another plus for plastic, it's more durable than glass without needing fancy treatments like "ceramic shield."

But Apple is already all in on glass, since even the cheapest iPhone SE uses glass back.
 
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Titanium is inevitably going to make it to the iPhone some day and make the whole thing dramatically lighter.

Hoping that day comes sooner rather than later.
Definitely. Actually, assuming supply chains and manufacturing are sorted out, I would expect the iPhone 14 Pros to get titanium treatment, along with a price increase. What else Apple can use to justify a price increase beyond $999 (without any fancy tech like folding screen). Titanium, and let it print money. :D
 
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And to add insult to injury, they made the sides square so that they cut into your hands. Nice!

Steve Jobs has definitely left the building.
Steve Jobs presided over the chamfered edge design language. It’s stunning and a welcome change over the rounded edges which were much less attractive. After spending 4 years with the 6S/8, I am so glad Apple went back.
 
What makes it greater? Should let the buyer decide. I’d rather have the light weight aluminum with a case. Not going to bend it or anything.
Flagship Samsung and iPhones are well over 1k price range. I’d rather get my monies worth and not a cheap aluminum framed device which Samsung uses on their 1300 android flagship.
 
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What makes it greater? Should let the buyer decide. I’d rather have the light weight aluminum with a case. Not going to bend it or anything.

Agree that aluminum can be every bit as premium as stainless or some other fancy steel. I think HTC made a phone back in the day that was a one piece 7075 aluminum case. Now that would be sweet to see in an iPhone, probably more than Apple wants to spend on a case though.
 
Flagship Samsung and iPhones are well over 1k price range. I’d rather get my monies worth and not a cheap aluminum framed device which Samsung uses on their 1300 android flagship.

This just shows how locked in people are to the idea that steel = expensive, aluminum = cheap. It's perception, not reality. I want a well design phone made with optimum materials. A one piece aluminum case could have greater stiffness and less weight than the current iPhone design, would almost certainly cost more to make, and could look really cool too.

ETA: I don't mind the current design in terms of weight, feel, or look (although I think the polished steel is a little cheesy), but I also don't think stainless steel is necessarily needed for a premium design.
 
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This just shows how locked in people are to the idea that steel = expensive, aluminum = cheap. It's perception, not reality. I want a well design phone made with optimum materials. A one piece aluminum case could have greater stiffness and less weight than the current iPhone design, would almost certainly cost more to make, and could look really cool too.

ETA: I don't mind the current design in terms of weight, feel, or look (although I think the polished steel is a little cheesy), but I also don't think stainless steel is necessarily needed for a premium design.
No, I’m not locked in. Been owning Samsung aluminum flagships since 2013 thru to the s21 ultra and note 20 ultra being the last models owned long term. Stainless steel is much nicer.
 
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