iPad Need your opinion - New iPad 2017

[rui no onna]

The next device to age like the iPad 2 did and even possibly surpass it would be the iPad Air 2.

iPad 4 and Air kinda already match and they're already doing better in terms of performance with age.

That said, A8X+2GB RAM is bound to set a new record (unless Apple caps firmware updates to 5 max or something).
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Ehh I would say 2-3 but regardless you have a point, iOS devices with 2gb of ram are all performing excellent in iOS 11 betas so really it could become that the "pro" models simply are alittle quicker and have the enhanced multitasking ability. I reckon both the iPad and iPad Pro are getting 5 years support at least. They both are recent enough obviously Apple has no intention to make 2gb ram devices obsolete any time soon. If this is the case man people with the iPad Air 2 are in for a long support cycle (my guess is that'll be the first iOS device to get 6 years of updates. Very curious to see what happens over these next years as iOS 11 seems to mark a big shift in Apple's entire strategy for iPads.

I expect the 2017 iPad to be good for at least 3-5 years. That would put A10X Pro at 4-7 years after adding the extra 1-2 years. That's a fairly long time in tech.

Caveat with iPads is they're integrated systems. In future, I don't think performance will be the determining factor for continued support. Rather, it'll probably be new features and technologies. That's why I don't expect current high end tech to have significantly longer useful life than mid range.

 

[gobikerider]

Completely agree. The 2GB RAM will see it being supported for a long time.

the future looks bright not really its more foggy and hazy since Apple sporadic with this stuff and could screw the iPad over tbh like kill it off when they drop support for the Air 2 and Mini 4
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iPad 4 and Air kinda already match and they're already doing better in terms of performance with age.

That said, A8X+2GB RAM is bound to set a new record (unless Apple caps firmware updates to 5 max or something).
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I expect the 2017 iPad to be good for at least 3-5 years. That would put A10X Pro at 4-7 years after adding the extra 1-2 years. That's a fairly long time in tech.

Caveat with iPads is they're integrated systems. In future, I don't think performance will be the determining factor for continued support. Rather, it'll probably be new features and technologies. That's why I don't expect current high end tech to have significantly longer useful life than mid range.

I'm very curious about that since iPod touch updates always seemed limited to 3 years I wonder if iPads it'll be limited to 5 years. Idk though seeing as 5 years is sorta a joke with the new Pro's overhead but we wont know until 3 years down the road when we can gauge how these devices hold up.

 

[loby]

A5
iPhone 4S
iPad 2
iPad mini

A5X (basically same CPU and 2x faster GPU than A5 to support 4x the pixels)
iPad 3

A6
iPhone 5
iPhone 5c

A6X
iPad 4

I went from an iPad 3 to the iPad 2017. Actually, my iPad 3 still was good for general web browsing etc. The retina screen was nice, but of course the iPad 2017 smokes.

I do notice the difference with the iPad 2017's screen, feels a little cheap plastic without the lamentated screen. I actually like the iPad 3 screen's feel better than the iPad 2017, but overall not complaining.. .

The iPad 2017 is well worth it if you are coming from an iPad 2 or 3. From an iPad 4, yes if you don't just use it for web browsing or watching movies.

 

[m4v3r1ck]

Fully Apple loaded household here. We just upgraded an iPad 3 to iPad 2017! Great device for every day-to-day work.

Good luck with making your choice!

Cheers

 

[luy]

The biggest disadvantage of the ipad 2017 is its screen. Otherwise its a good device.

 

[bnmcj1]

The biggest disadvantage of the ipad 2017 is its screen. Otherwise its a good device.

For me the screen is its biggest plus. I really like the more glare photo/magazine like screen as opposed to the ones with less glare. Reminds me of the Thunderbolt Display 27" I had. I use my iPad 2017 indoors anyway.

Came from iPad Pro 9.7" which unfortunately got damaged screen. Bought the iPad 2017 until new pro's came out too keep as en extra, but I find the iPad 10.5" too small and the 12.9 could have a little bigger sceeen. Just dont want to buy it when Apple has not slimmed down the bezels on the 12.9".

 

[luy]

True, but using the iPad 2017 outdoor without the anti glare screen is really bad. And when I first saw the 120hz of the iPad Pro, there was no way I could go back to the "normal" iPad. Anyway, of course the iPad 2017 is still a good entry level iPad.

 

[akash.nu]

From an iPad 4, yes if you don't just use it for web browsing or watching movies.

What do you mean by this? Would you mind elaborating please?

 

[akash.nu]

The biggest disadvantage of the ipad 2017 is its screen. Otherwise its a good device.

Well, I'm keeping my iPad 4 anyway. Maybe will use the new iPad just for work purposes & the iPad 4 for watching videos, in case I do. I tend to watch any type of videos mostly on the home theatre though.

 

[44267547]

Well, I'm keeping my iPad 4 anyway. Maybe will use the new iPad just for work purposes & the iPad 4 for watching videos, in case I do. I tend to watch any type of videos mostly on the home theatre though.

I wouldn't be put off too much by the display on the 2017 9.7 iPad. It does lack the laminate display, however, it's actually 44% brighter over the iPad Air One. And in most cases, reflectivty would only be an issue based on how bright the lighting is indoor/outdoor. But otherwise, I haven't seen too many complaints about the brightness or reflectivity with the new 9.7 iPad.

 

[Channan]

I think the Pro will last a wee bit more then "a little longer" but iPad still great device especially at that price.

The processor is only a year newer. It does have more RAM, but that doesn't mean it'll last a whole lot longer.
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My wife has one, and I have the new 10.5 Pro. I disagree completely about the speakers. Yes, it has more speakers, but they're not better. On the 2017, every tick of the volume bar brings appreciably more and more volume. On the Pro, the bottom half of the bar is incredibly disappointing in its variance. The other huge advantage of the 2017 is battery life. Doing what I normally do on the 2017 ticks off about 5 percentage of the battery. On the Pro, the same load takes around 12 percentage. The screen is much better on the Pro, but it comes at a little bit of a cost - fingerprints and dust. It attracts them and holds them in a way the 2017 never does. A simple swipe with a cloth cleans the 2017 back to brand new yet I can never seem to clean the Pro completely.

I can highly recommend both of these devices, but if you're just getting something for web browsing, some gaming, and video watching, and you do that mostly indoors, I recommend the 2017 over the Pro. The Pro is simply not 300 dollars better. If you need a workhorse that is going to last probably as many years as the Air 2 has, get the Pro. It's processor and extra memory are beasts compared to the 2017, although with the current version of iOS, the 2017 does everything my Pro does at the same speed. I assume that will change with 11.

It's not just about how loud it is. It's the quality. The iPad Pro just sounds better.

 

[Mainsail]

I just bought a base 2017 iPad on sale for $300. I didn't get the iPad Pro because we have a Mac desktop at home for heavy lifting. Basically, I got the 2017 iPad so I wouldn't have to lug a laptop around for routine tasks and simple content creation. It seems to get the job done. Of course, I just got the iPad, so I will need to spend more time to fully evaluate. Here is how I plan on using it for light productivity and routine computing:

• Emails & messaging
• Calendar, Reminders and Time Management Apps
• Small document creation (Pages & Keynote) and editing larger documents
• Simple spreadsheet creation (Numbers) and editing more complex documents
• PDF review and markups
• Note taking
• File Management (iCloud Drive & File App in future)
• Personal Finance, Banking and Investment Tracking
• Ebooks
• Photo & Video organization and simple photo editing
• Media consumption, research & web browsing

Like I said, if I need to do significant content creation or more complex tasks, I will use the desktop. But, frankly, I suspect this will only happen a couple of times per month.

 

[myrtlebee]

I do notice the difference with the iPad 2017's screen, feels a little cheap plastic without the lamentated screen. I actually like the iPad 3 screen's feel better than the iPad 2017, but overall not complaining.. .

The iPad 3 doesn't have a laminated display either. It's only the different body design that makes the screen on the two feel different. I too prefer the more solid feel of iPad 2/3/4, and even iPad Air 2.

 

[Reno Raines]

I'm seeing loads of people here own the iPad Pros. Is there any iPad 2017 owner? I'm looking to buy one and would like to hear about your opinion.

Also please mention if you're fully invested in Apple ecosystem and if you've owned any other iPads before and what has changed in the new model.

I have had the original iPad, iPad 2 iPad Air 2, and now the iPad 2017. The new 2017 model is to me less laggy on iOS 10 but the battery life to me is the real winner. Also the A9 processor gives it plenty of speed for the money. I am invested in the apple ecosystem as I have three iPhones and an Apple Watch. I think the iPad 2017 is a great iPad for the lower end Apple market. I would characterize it as the no frills model.

 

[Mackinjosh]

The processor is only a year newer. It does have more RAM, but that doesn't mean it'll last a whole lot longer.
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It's not just about how loud it is. It's the quality. The iPad Pro just sounds better.

Except it doesn't. It has more speakers, so it wins in that if you block two speakers you can still hear the other two, but the sound isn't any better. The real killer for me, again, is the lack of variance throughout the entire volume slider.

 

[Tikatika]

Had need for a second iPad. Already have the 9.7 Pro. We strongly debated getting the 10.7 Pro, but instead went with the 2017 iPad. Best decision! The display is beautiful, on par with the 9.7 Pro, and it is fast and solid.

Unless you have need of the Pro for its pencil capabilities, I strongly recommend you save your money and get the 2017 iPad. You won't be disappointed.

 

[Ffosse]

I had the 2017 iPad and the display wasn't good at all - worth it to get an iPad Pro for all the spec improvements.

 

[Channan]

Except it doesn't. It has more speakers, so it wins in that if you block two speakers you can still hear the other two, but the sound isn't any better. The real killer for me, again, is the lack of variance throughout the entire volume slider.

But it does. Maybe you just can't tell the difference and you're one of those people who is fine using dollar store headphones.

 

[akash.nu]

Except it doesn't. It has more speakers, so it wins in that if you block two speakers you can still hear the other two, but the sound isn't any better. The real killer for me, again, is the lack of variance throughout the entire volume slider.

But it does. Maybe you just can't tell the difference and you're one of those people who is fine using dollar store headphones.

Well, I hardly use my iPad for any viewing pleasure without headphones, so the speakers aren't really that much of a deal breaker for me. I guess the extra cost of the Pro will put me off in this case. Plus I'm not an artistic person as such to use the Pro with the pencil. I really just need a workhorse which will help me with not carrying my MacBook everywhere.

 

[Channan]

Well, I hardly use my iPad for any viewing pleasure without headphones, so the speakers aren't really that much of a deal breaker for me. I guess the extra cost of the Pro will put me off in this case. Plus I'm not an artistic person as such to use the Pro with the pencil. I really just need a workhorse which will help me with not carrying my MacBook everywhere.

I'm not saying the speakers are necessarily a reason to buy the Pro. All I said originally was that it has better speakers. I was just pointing out the pros of the Pro and leaving it up to you (or anyone else who wants to know) to decide if it's worth paying more for.

 

[Mackinjosh]

But it does. Maybe you just can't tell the difference and you're one of those people who is fine using dollar store headphones.

Nope, V-Moda Crossfade 2 Wireless headphones. And I can definitely tell a difference in the audio quality of the speakers. The 10.5 inch pro has a horrible low-end volume situation.

 

[44267547]

I'm not saying the speakers are necessarily a reason to buy the Pro. All I said originally was that it has better speakers. I was just pointing out the pros of the Pro and leaving it up to you (or anyone else who wants to know) to decide if it's worth paying more for.

I think the quad speakers with the iPad Pro are a really nice selling point, but it's quickly negated if somebody uses wired headphones over using the speakers. But personally to me, I like to take advantage of the hardware features if I am paying for them, and the speakers Is one nice advantage to the Pro that I really like.

 

[Precursor]

I went from the OG ipad 3 to the 12.9!

I went from iPad 2 to iPad Pro 12.9 when it came out.
I was stunned!

 

[Channan]

I think the quad speakers with the iPad Pro are a really nice selling point, but it's quickly negated if somebody uses wired headphones over using the speakers. But personally to me, I like to take advantage of the hardware features if I am paying for them, and the speakers Is one nice advantage to the Pro that I really like.

But apparently they aren't better and the only advantage is if you happen to cover up the speakers on one side, you can still hear the speakers on the other side. Lol

 

[Mackinjosh]

If tablet speakers are a main selling point for you, you're doing it wrong. Just get a bluetooth speaker, which blows away any tablet speakers.