And yet, on the social (and regular) media I see a lot more posts/articles about Netflix shows than Apple TV shows (the latter are almost never mentioned). None of the Apple TV shows had as much resonance as Stranger Things, Squid Game, Griselda etc. Besides, Netflix is much better at offering third party content. For example, one can watch Walking Dead (from AMC). On Apple TV, you'd need to pay for each episode.
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Netflix No Longer Allowing Subscribers to Pay Through Apple's App Store
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Probably. But the’ll lose them forever. Most people I know either never had Netflix or dumped them
Of course you have your credit cards in your Apple Wallet right now. Do you realize that you won’t have that option anymore when Apple is forced to allow third party access to NFC. The very first thing that will happen is your credit card companies will pull out of the Wallet so they don’t have to pay Apple’s fees. If you have five credit card you will then need to download and install five different apps in order to use each off those credit cards. You will no longer be able to have all your cards your Apple Pay wallet. You will be using the Visa Pay app, the Mastercard Pay, the Discover Card Pay, your bank’s Debit Card Pay. Separate apps for every card you have. Get it?
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Funny how they complain about Apple, but they let cell phone companies, online sale websites, some banks and other web merchants offer and charge for their subscriptions not directly via the Netflix website. They must be desperate to "get back" at Apple.
And I pay for neither and you’re still paying for them either way. Yet you can still watch them for a lot less.
No, I don't get it, because thus far, it hasn't happened. There has been nothing keeping credit card providers using google or apple. If they wanted to use their own app, they could and they always have been able to. But they haven't. Make a better argument, because the one you made frankly isn't grounded in reality.
Are you sure about that? Android has always had open access to NFC and yet Google Wallet works with plenty of credit cards. I am not even sure if Google takes any fee for this or not.
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Cancelled a year ago or so during that ridiculous price hike.
We don't miss it whatsoever. It is not a necessity.
We don't miss it whatsoever. It is not a necessity.
Netflix hasn’t got enough market penetration to have 10 billion active subscribers so I guess there are still customers waiting to be tapped into.
You and me can only realistically know what happens in our own circles, instead of on a macro scale. Besides, exclusivity is still a thing.
Even if they did charge a fee, it doesn't matter because google pay is still the dominant payment platform on the android platform.
That's not relevant to comparison between Netflix and Apple TV, is not it?
That's fine. I no longer pay for Netflix at all.
The incessant price increases, followed with reducing features and worse content got me to cancel. Netflix takes its customers for granted. I've got more than enough fantastic content on Apple TV+ and occasionally Crave (HBO in Canada) and Disney+ to fill my need for TV.
The incessant price increases, followed with reducing features and worse content got me to cancel. Netflix takes its customers for granted. I've got more than enough fantastic content on Apple TV+ and occasionally Crave (HBO in Canada) and Disney+ to fill my need for TV.
Fearmongering among Apple fan base in full display, speculating a bunch of scary “what if” without knowing what’s happening. Apple will respond if they find coercing banks no longer works due to forced competition. We customers need not to worry.
Probably only a small problem that there aren't 10 billion people on the planet... but hey who's counting. Lol.
(intended as humor, not making a dig at you.)
Of course, all the services you mentioned increase prices too. As far as content is concerned, none of these other services come close to Netflix (Disney+ has an advantage for kids though).
This. I just bought every episode of my favourite 80s show Quantum Leap after finishing Seinfeld for which I was subscribed to Netflix for over a year. It would've been far cheaper to just buy the show, and you get to keep it and shuffle episodes.
None of those services reduced their quality.
If you consider "none of these other services come close to Netflix" as in the quantity of content, then sure... but Apple TV+ has been incredible show after incredible show. Netflix is just full of junk with the odd good show or movie. It used to be that Netflix had almost any show from across many studios. That was the golden era where you could sub to Netflix and get everything. That's long gone.
Based on the number of people here who said they have or they will be cancelling because of Netflix price increases, password sharing crack down, lack of appealing content, etc, you'd think Netflix would be losing subscribers and yet...
Netflix on Tuesday blew past Wall Street subscriber estimates in the fourth quarter. . . .
The company reported it added 13.1 million subscribers in the December quarter, its largest-ever fourth-quarter subscriber growth, handily exceeding projected gains of 8.97 million. That brings the total number of subscribers to 260 million.
The streaming giant said it expects healthy double-digit revenue growth for full-year 2024, as it continues to add members and invest in its advertising business.
If any policy is stupid, it's Apple's policy and belief they deserve a 15% cut of Netflix's subscription revenue just because.
They will try, and might succeed, but whether this kind of thing sticks or not is up to us.
If people accept it, they will do it. If people refuse and jump to another provider which offers those convenience factors, then you’d likely see a reversal in policies/strategies.
Collective consumer sentiment is what allows these giant corporations to act as they do - I wish more people took their own influence on this seriously.
You know, I’ve ran out patience with Netflix instead. You know why?
They keep……..
RAISING THEIR PRICES WHILE CHURNING OUT BAD SHOW AFTER ANOTHER, and THEY KEEP CANCELLING HIGH RATED TV SHOW, ALL BECAUSE THEIR ALGORITHM TELL THEM TO DO SO!!!!!!! 😡
So forget that they are part of the App Store cartel that doesn’t know how laws of doing business works and wants to keep all the profit to themselves. They just don’t care about customers, period.
A lot of that content that used to be on Netflix has been retracted to promote the different streaming competitors they have now. Stuff obviously returned to Disney + or Hulu, Paramount+, WB (Max), Britbox (BBC/ITV), Peacock, and so on. It's their content. Obviously there is still stuff licensed from the content sources on a rotational basis that reappears on Netflix every so often. The golden era where Netflix had everything on it is no more.
Now you need to look at Netflix as an alternative streaming content provider that occasionally has stuff you want to see including those temporary licensed TV series/movies in additional to their own productions. It's still a great source of Asian content and other international generated shows that aren't really represented well on the usual USA based content streamers. That can encompass a lot of content most don't even watch because its CC based (non-English).
I subscribed to Netflix via their website. It works just fine. People purchase things online every second of every day not using Apple’s IAP system with zero problems. Apple needs to stop portraying IAP is being about privacy/security. It’s not. It’s rent seeking. Since Apple exempts so many big names they should change their policy to only take commission on games IAP. I’m sure that’s where they make most of their money anyway. For any other developer who uses IAP just charge them for the credit card processing and any other administrative fees. Surely that would be less than 30% or 15%.
🤣 You'll have to tell me why you think Apple deserves a 15% cut of Netflix's subscription revenue when Apple isn't producing or hosting the content.
Interchange fees? The average interchange fee is between 1.5% and 3.5%.
Xcode software to develop for Apple and the App Store? The cost to host the app on the App Store? That's what the $99/yr developer fee covers per https://developer.apple.com/programs/
Join the Apple Developer Program to reach customers around the world on the App Store for iPhone, iPad, Mac, Apple Watch, and Apple TV. Membership includes all the tools, resources, and support you need to develop and distribute apps, including access to beta software, app services, testing tools, app analytics, and more.
What else is there that Apple is providing and should be compensated for?
Exactly. It’s rent seeking. I have a smart TV which is Roku. I have a DirecTV box which is Google. When I want to watch something on Netflix that’s how I access it. Just because I sometimes watching something on my iPad doesn’t mean that Apple is responsible for my Netflix subscription.