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iPad New 10.2" iPad: Touch ID, Smart Connector, A10, 2160x1620 - $329 - ** 3 GB RAM CONFIRMED **
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No, it's not. It adds unnecessary bulk and isn't as well made as the original smart keyboards.
Uh what? It is the original Smart Keyboard. It's the same one as the 10.5 Pro.
https://www.apple.com/ca/shop/produ...ration-and-ipad-air-3rd-generation-us-english
So the previous 9.7 is better for everyone who doesn't care about the keyboard support or the minor spec size? Especially if you can find a 9.7 for around $199? Really underwhelming to me.
I agree with you. The 9.7" iPad Pro would be a better buy (at a discount obviously).
It's lighter, thinner, has a better display (P3), True Tone, laminated screen, better camera, and best of all quad speakers. iPads are still mainly consumption devices and those quad speakers make everything so much better. Not only that but the 9.7" iPad Pro is a pretty reliable device with no major issues.
Hoping this is an Apple typo, but I sent it in to MacRumors as a tip just in case...
New iPad *appears* to be using an older, slower version of Touch ID.
Take a look at the "Secure Authentication" section on this page: https://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/
New iPad *appears* to be using an older, slower version of Touch ID.
Take a look at the "Secure Authentication" section on this page: https://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/
Complete bullsh*t! I was waiting for this ipad and can't be frustrated more. Gonna get a 2nd hand 2018 ipad. "by innovation only" you Tim Crook...
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It’s the same Touch ID as iPad Air 3.Hoping this is an Apple typo, but I sent it in to MacRumors as a tip just in case...
New iPad *appears* to be using an older, slower version of Touch ID.
Take a look at the "Secure Authentication" section on this page: https://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/
[EDIT] Probably not.
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You would think. But why does Apple's website say...
iPad Air (3rd Generation)
Second-generation fingerprint identity sensor built into the Home button
iPad (6th Generation)
Second-generation fingerprint identity sensor built into the Home button
iPad Mini (4th Generation)
Second-generation fingerprint identity sensor built into the Home button
iPad (7th Generation)
Fingerprint identity sensor built into the Home button
iPad Mini (3rd Generation)
Fingerprint identity sensor built into the Home button
Spacing is almost irrelevant in the create pro. The thinkpad style shape of the keys and the travel make it superior to the 10.5 apple one. I make less mistakes on it than on the apple one. I write very fast on both but I enjoy the create much more. Definitely more mistakes in the 9.7 apple one instead, with which I wrote this...
Pretty much as I thought, they increased the size so they could sell a smart Keyboard for it. I am surprised they didn't take the opportunity to update the chip though. While the A10 is likely plenty for years to come (the A9X still takes everything in its stride) it might pose problems when it comes to support ending (do they keep all A10s, drop the 6th gen but keep the 7th supported an extra year?). I guess the iPod touch makes more sense now, at least - looks like the A10 still has more life left in it than you'd expect for the oldest A series still being produced...
Wow. Still A10, Slight screen increase and the smart connector, and a price rise... (in my country).
In Australia these are $529. It used to cost $529 for the top of the line iPad in the iPad 2/3/4/Air 1 days and that got you the latest processor and ram. Now you have to pay $1000 for a pro to get the base level high end iPad.
In Australia these are $529. It used to cost $529 for the top of the line iPad in the iPad 2/3/4/Air 1 days and that got you the latest processor and ram. Now you have to pay $1000 for a pro to get the base level high end iPad.
Is Smart Connector and eSIM that costly that they have to gimp color gamut and TouchID to reach the $329 price point?
On the upside, this makes me feel much better about buying the $250 6th gen.
On the upside, this makes me feel much better about buying the $250 6th gen.
Most of this has to do with the steady decline of AUD against USD. It recently hit a 10 year low vs USD. This impacts Apple pricing there.
Um... The Mini 4 and 6th Gen iPad definitely don't have 2nd gen TouchID...
In retrospect, I suspect it may be true it's 1st generation Touch ID in the new 10.2" iPad, judging by this table:
I figured they'd all be 2nd gen by now, considering 2nd gen began with the iPhone 6s, but the iPad 2017 and iPad 2018 both are 1st gen. Lame. It's too bad because 2nd gen Touch ID is noticeably better than 1st gen.
Below are the relative Geekbench 5 scores of the various iOS devices. CPU score of A10 is around 1400 multi-core, which is OK. Hopefully this iPad comes with 3 GB RAM like my 7 Plus, because 2 GB RAM in my iPad Air 2 these days = tab refreshes more than I'd like.
Metal appears decent at around 2800, which is probably one reason it was chosen as the cutoff. Below the A9, Metal performance falls off a cliff.
I figured they'd all be 2nd gen by now, considering 2nd gen began with the iPhone 6s, but the iPad 2017 and iPad 2018 both are 1st gen. Lame. It's too bad because 2nd gen Touch ID is noticeably better than 1st gen.
I guess the good news is the A10 in my iPhone 7 Plus (3 GB RAM) and the A10X in my iPad Pro 10.5 (4 GB RAM) are probably going to be supported longer than I might have originally guessed. Same goes for my A10X Apple TV 4K (3 GB RAM). BTW, I just bought the iPad Pro 10.5 and Apple TV 4K a few months ago, and they are both quite speedy. My iPhone 7 Plus is fine, but the performance is not the same as the A10X iPad Pro 10.5. I'm good to keep the 7 Plus until 2020, but then I'll probably either sell it or else pass it down to a family member.
Below are the relative Geekbench 5 scores of the various iOS devices. CPU score of A10 is around 1400 multi-core, which is OK. Hopefully this iPad comes with 3 GB RAM like my 7 Plus, because 2 GB RAM in my iPad Air 2 these days = tab refreshes more than I'd like.
Metal appears decent at around 2800, which is probably one reason it was chosen as the cutoff. Below the A9, Metal performance falls off a cliff.
[doublepost=1568164320][/doublepost]I had a question on using as a temporary replacement for my MacBook Air 2018. When my 11 year old comes over and wants to play games I give him the MacBook Air and I use my 2010 MacBook Pro which is still sort of fast with SSD.
I was looking to get the new iPad and trade in my iPad Air 2 and then get the keyboard so I use the iPad 7th gen as a computer since 2010 MBP is not on current OS.
Would you do that or just save up and get another MacBook Air? Trying to save money but I hold my Apple products a long time so cost after 4-5 years blends away. Please advise
It really depends on what you do with it. Like I said, I use my iPad Pro about 90% of the time, but I use my MacBook about 10% of the time.
For example, while you can use Microsoft Excel on an iPad Pro, IMO the touch interface sucks for that. OTOH, if all you want to do is surf the forums here, compose emails, and watch Netflix, then IMO the iPad with keyboard is often actually superior.
The amount of greed at Apple is something to behold. Even if all they added was an a11, I would think it is ok. A11 and 3gb of ram would be a slam dunk. We got nothing. It just feels wrong to buy the new iPad when it's obvious Apple is doing the bare minimum they can do. Some people can't afford any more than the entry level, and those people are left to purchase a "new" iPad that looks like Apple just took a bunch of old parts, slapped them together and put "NEW" next to it. Sad, really...
In retrospect this was obvious. They just released the Air 3 six months ago. They weren't going to release a "budget" model that's even reasonably close to it in specs.
Seriously?
1) Apple is a for profit organization.
2) the target market is not likely to be iPad 6th gen owners
3) You don’t need to buy it. I don’t think it’s a huge step up from the 5th gen. I’m not buying it, but I can see the merits of the device to get people into the Apple system, subscribed to ATV+, and with a slightly larger screen to watch it on. Oh, and they get iPadOS if they’re upgrading from a really archaic device.
[doublepost=1568167108][/doublepost]@EugW it starts at $429 in Canada, not $549.
I think it's an awesome tablet for it's intended audience. Apple chose what components needed upgrading while still keeping the same price as the previous iPad. It's definitely on my possible list especially since it includes a year of Apple TV+. Perhaps this isn't included in some countries though.