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Was just looking at the ceramic Apple Watch Series 3 on eBay the other day. Glad I decided not to get one if Apple are bringing that material back.
 
Will we ever see the return of the 18K gold Apple watch? Probably not.
Probably too expensive considering it is outdated a few years down the road.

Saw an article about how they basically sold every 18k gold Apple Watch they were going to during launch week. They had thousands of them in a warehouse they eventually scrapped for the raw material.


I was very disappointed they didn’t offer a ceramic case with the series 4 after loving my white series 2. Nothing like an indelible watch case. I REALLLY hope they offer a black ceramic case this time. The reason they haven’t yet is because they’re worried people would be ticked you can’t tell they splurged for a black ceramic that looks like the black SS case, so dumb.
 
So discontinuing ceramic then bringing it back is a “new feature”?
Note that the ceramic version went away when the whole case went through its biggest change with version four. There is some sense in launching a new case design with a smaller choice of materials and then add new materials a year later.
 
I'm all for indestructibility on a watch as I tend to beat them up pretty bad. The 'ion glass' front and plastic back was a scratch magnet for me. I'd rather have an older watch in good shape than a new one that scratches quickly... SS and Sapphire are pretty good, although I've nicked my sapphire screen slightly, and that's in a couple of years of use.
 
People spending the absurd amounts of cash on them are just wealthy culturally adapted brainwashed IMO. ... Those are the people spending $1300 on the throwaway Apple watches.

No more absurd and brainwashed than the typical person who spends even more per annum on vacation travel, fine dining, shows, sporting events, flowers for the spouse, and other stuff they will mostly forget about in a couple years or so. Not everyone is a college student who sleeps on a couch and eats discount ramen.
 
I’ll trade you for an Apple Watch 4!
[doublepost=1566051512][/doublepost]To me using expensive high end materials on a smart watch is like putting Corinthian leather seats in an old Buick or a compact car. May look nice, be comfortable, but as an investment makes no sense. Lipstick on a pig kind of thing.
Aston Martin tried this with the Cygnet, according to one source it sold a total of less than 600 units. And then they put a V8 in it (as a one-off custom order).
 
I’d rathee have they fix the scratch resistance of the display. It is horeendous as of now, my Apple watch ssries 4 is full of deep scratches after only moderate use.

I agree.

I have a S0 SS and a S4 stainless steel.
S0 screen is flawless. S4 has more than a dozen light scratches.
It’s poor.
 
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What's the deal with mentioning Japan Display? What advantage will they bring to the current Watch displays?
It’s a selling point. Made in Japan usually means high quality, built to last. So having Japan will draw an association. Japan Display, hmmm.

Who knows till it’s released. Would love a titanium one.
 
I had a Swiss titanium mechanical watch made by Steinhart. It’s prince ran in the $700 USD range. I’m going to guess that the titanium AW may run in the $1500-$2000 USD range. I’ll be very interested to see how Apple differentiates the appearance from aluminum. Most titanium watches I’ve seen are a dull grey color. The only exception when it comes to titanium watches where the finishing looks very similar to SS are watches made by Grand Seiko. Those GS models are in the $5K USD range.

Most watches, whether they are mechanical or smart watches, are not investments. The exceptions are Rolex, Patek and some vintage models. The resale is much more than the original retail price. For example, you could buy a Rolex GMT Master II for $8,500 USD and sell it for between $18K-$20K USD the minute you walk out of the store. (That is assuming you can even find one to buy).
 
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I’ll trade you for an Apple Watch 4!
[doublepost=1566051512][/doublepost]To me using expensive high end materials on a smart watch is like putting Corinthian leather seats in an old Buick or a compact car. May look nice, be comfortable, but as an investment makes no sense. Lipstick on a pig kind of thing.

Your reference to Corinthian leather perfectly underscores how much this topic distills down to two main concepts: how much marketing influences our satisfaction with a purchase and that the value we attribute to an object is a matter of perspective. “Fine Corinthian leather” was born out of an ad campaign for Chrysler in the ‘70s and convinced a generation that their leather interior from New Jersey was some premium stuff. Calling a discontinued and now revived product “new” will doubtlessly help sell some units. The more important point, however, is that a durable, heirloom item (whether it be an Eames Lounge, a Rolex, or anything that will outlive you whilst getting better with age) should be more highly-valued and certainly be appreciated as a well-earned investment. People will always be drawn to the neat and new, particularly in a society increasingly smitten with novelty and caring little for environmental and human costs attached to mass-produced commodities. Some people, however, will instead focus on their appreciation for craftsmanship, heritage, and the knowledge that they are only caretakers for items that can serve as timeless, tangible mementos to future generations.
 
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I have Swiss watches, but also buy Apple watches. They both have their place imo. I can't get into g-shocks though. While I love the tool aspect of them (I would love being able to see altitude, pressure, temp etc data on the Apple watch), they're crazy ugly and quite expensive for what they are to me.

I agree with you in that Apple watches are tech devices that lose value and functionality with time, but that applies to most things we buy as customers. I sell and upgrade my tech every year, and this approach works really well for me.

I prefer the stainless steel variants of the watch myself, as it feels and looks a lot better than the aluminum to me, and helps it feel like a real watch. I also have a collection of higher-end leather straps in a variety of colours to go with different looks.

Personally, I'm pretty excited to see these new ceramic and titanium models, particularly the former.

Btw, I'm not too sure about the Apple watch being a status symbol. I've never perceived it that way or seen it being perceived that way. I see them everywhere.

Haha! I’m assuming they mean with the heart-monitoring features and health applications to the devices.

But yeah, the point is that a Rolex in 50 years is still a timeless collectible, functioning Rolex. It will always have use and be worth something. In even 5 years that Apple Watch isn’t going to work as intended. It’s a throwaway. People spending the absurd amounts of cash on them are just wealthy culturally adapted brainwashed IMO. It’s a thing. Needing, craving status as some form of personal gratification and measurement of success. Those are the people spending $1300 on the throwaway Apple watches.
 
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If Apple offered a service whereby the logic board could be replaced in the future (to retain speed if nothing else) I'm sure more people would part money for the stainless steel/ceramic models.

Heck, if they offered it from day one, then even the gold 'Edition' model would at least have some value...
Yeah, it’s really hard to justify spending a bunch extra on a fancy case when you know you’ll likely want to upgrade the innards in just a few years.

If I could upgrade everything but the case at a reduced price, I’d be a lot more likely to splurge on a nice case material. Don’t see Apple doing that though so I’ll stick with the lower priced options and treat them as the disposable devices they are.
 
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Titanium vs Stainless Steel
 
Nice leak! I'm hoping the titanium replaces the stainless steel body with little cost increase. I'd buy that.
 
The problem Apple had with the previous Ceramic finishes was the limited color selection. Most high-end watches like Rado feature a black ceramic finish. It is far more elegant than white or gray. Apple needs to start offering a black color for other accessories such as AirPods.
 
What's the point if they cost hundreds more? It's tech. It's throwaway goods. People buy a new one every year or two. No point spending hundreds more for the casing

But if the people like it more? Why not? I don't have an apple watch, but If I would buy one some day I would go for the stainless steel. It costs more than the aluminium version but I like it better that way. So its my choice. My money. Let me enjoy what I want and not what you think is better. Thx.
 
I agree.

I have a S0 SS and a S4 stainless steel.
S0 screen is flawless. S4 has more than a dozen light scratches.
It’s poor.
That’s simply impossible unless you’re scraping your watch face against rough diamonds. The only thing that can scratch sapphire crystal, which is what the SS models use for the face, is a diamond.
 
If Apple offered a service whereby the logic board could be replaced in the future (to retain speed if nothing else) I'm sure more people would part money for the stainless steel/ceramic models.

Heck, if they offered it from day one, then even the gold 'Edition' model would at least have some value...
This! I was thinking exactly the same thing. I’d pay for the case if I could swap out the electronics and be able to update them.
 
It’s so funny how people are like “why would anyone spend hundreds of dollars extra for titanium?”

Newslfash! People buy what they want. People have disposable income. If someone wants to buy a titanium or ceramic watch whyyy do you care?!

I’ve never seen so many naysayers in my life Lol.
It’s usually the same ones that say that Apple shouldn’t have as much money as they do.

Personally I’d never spend over $1k on a watch that would be upgraded every year or so. A phone, sure. It has more capabilities than a watch.
 
Titanium is something I always wondered about and thought they might think about for the top of the range to replace the ceramic.

I have a Titanium watch though and to be perfectly honest I love the feel and weight and look of the stainless steel Apple Watch so I really hope that they don't switch and this is just an option.
 
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