It should be interesting to see whether Apple makes these changes in iOS 17 or fights it with a lawsuit until iOS 18.
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New EU Law Could Force Apple to Allow Other App Stores, Sideloading, and iMessage Interoperability
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And to all people who defend the walled garden of Apple: If the EU really allowed that behaviour, Google could also decide to no longer accept apps from unknown sources. Then consumers only had the chance between two walled gardens and both without nipples.
All the apps I have for banking & payment, parking, investment, Microsoft apps like Teams and Outlook, Instagram, Snap Chat, ordering groceries, viewing utility cost and usage.
Basically every important app to me.
Under the Computerized Markets Act (DMA), the standards will apply to tech goliaths that meet its “watchman” models and power them to open up their different administrations and stages to different organizations and engineers.
“The DMA will change the computerized scene significantly,” said chief VP Margrethe Vestager in a proclamation going with a Commission official statement. “With it, the EU is adopting a favorable to dynamic strategy to guaranteeing fair, straightforward and contestable computerized markets. Few huge organizations grasp critical market power. Watchmen partaking in a settled ready in computerized markets should show that they are contending reasonably. We welcome every single possible guard, their rivals or purchaser associations, to come and converse with us about how to best execute the DMA.”
If (or more probable, when) Macintosh is assigned a guardian, it should roll out significant improvements to its iPhone and iPad stages to oblige the necessities. In Spring, under the watchful eye of the law was passed, Apple said it was “worried that a few arrangements of the DMA will make pointless protection and security weaknesses for our clients.”
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Hmm this sounds like the old argument of when you put governments in charge who really watches the watcher? Will this just turn into an another example of backdoors, unknown monitoring by 3rd parties and so on? Also that last comment mentioning Macintosh, I think the author meant Apple. opps
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techstory.in
“The DMA will change the computerized scene significantly,” said chief VP Margrethe Vestager in a proclamation going with a Commission official statement. “With it, the EU is adopting a favorable to dynamic strategy to guaranteeing fair, straightforward and contestable computerized markets. Few huge organizations grasp critical market power. Watchmen partaking in a settled ready in computerized markets should show that they are contending reasonably. We welcome every single possible guard, their rivals or purchaser associations, to come and converse with us about how to best execute the DMA.”
If (or more probable, when) Macintosh is assigned a guardian, it should roll out significant improvements to its iPhone and iPad stages to oblige the necessities. In Spring, under the watchful eye of the law was passed, Apple said it was “worried that a few arrangements of the DMA will make pointless protection and security weaknesses for our clients.”
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Hmm this sounds like the old argument of when you put governments in charge who really watches the watcher? Will this just turn into an another example of backdoors, unknown monitoring by 3rd parties and so on? Also that last comment mentioning Macintosh, I think the author meant Apple. opps
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Apple might be forced to allow other app stores under a new EU law. - TechStory
Under the Computerized Markets Act (DMA), the standards will apply to tech goliaths that meet its "watchman" models and power them to open up their different administrations and stages to different organizations and engineers.
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iMessage is a thing in the US. If Apple removed iMessage in Europe, 90% of Europeans won’t even notice, as they all use WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, Viber, etc.
Nobody has to side load, but I want the option.
I will not switch to an iPhone unless side loading is possible.
It's my device if I buy it and I should be able to load what I want.
I will not switch to an iPhone unless side loading is possible.
It's my device if I buy it and I should be able to load what I want.
Turning Apple into Android removes the duopoly and makes it worse not better. There is a clear line and feature set between iOS and Android. iOS is closed, Android is open. Pros/cons.
Now this is the EU mandate I care about. Not the USB-C thing. Gimme code signing like on the Mac and leave the AppStore for those, who need the extra simplicity.
Yes and Apple could easily put the same safeguards as they use with macOS. As long as the user agrees to it, it is their own game.
This thread makes me better understand the expression, “analogies are not for smart people”
Man-made horrors beyond your comprehension
But I don't care if the App Store didn't benefit developers enough. I only care about me.
I want ONE place to get all my apps. One set of policies, one UI, one place to find everything that's available.
The web is an example of freedom and it's horrible compared to iOS for casual use.
Unnecessary and obscuring metaphor; you're implying that Apple's primary goal with the App Store is security with profit as a secondary goal, I assume?
Security is a marketing tool to Apple. It's a good one, because it does benefit users in a notable way, but make no mistake, the App Store exists to make Apple money first. Everything else it does, good and bad, is secondary to that.
What makes the iPhone different? Roughly an order of magnitude—there are > 1 billion iOS devices in use vs ~100 million Macs.
The primary goal for any for profit business, even a hospital is to make money. Apple is a business so the same applies. I have my own business with the same thing. That is what a business is for. If it doesn’t make money I’m not getting paid and living on the street.
Except the already have that option on android and it isn't used significantly. I'd think for a smaller developer, the infrastructure costs to enable this would easily outweigh any savings from the 15% they currently pay. Also, they would now have to worry about piracy.
As far as "marginally cheaper" pricing, App Store prices are already extremely low. There's no room to lower prices significantly.
Exactly.
I'm absolutely NOT asking you to be concerned for the trillion dollar company. I'm asking why you care about something that will primarily benefit billion dollar companies with little potential consumer benefit and significant potential consumer negatives.
Worth noting that banking, investment, grocery, utility, etc apps don't really drive revenue as much revenue through the apps themselves as you might think, and they don't really have any motive to pull away from the App Store. Same goes for marketplaces like Amazon and eBay. They don't pay royalties to Apple for purchases made through them. They probably won't go anywhere.
Well, except Amazon, which I suppose will move because Amazon has their own app store over on Android already. And I suspect Apple will as well in the not too distant future. Which is gonna be... weird.
Nor does Apple only charge what the services cost to run.this is one clueless person, it isn't free to run you know
Exactly. Which is why I said that security has never been the primary goal of the App Store. You're metaphor seemed to suggest that you disagreed with that, so I just wanted to clarify.
Good for you. But for others who use iMessage and prefer not to use SMS or Android, they have no choice but to accept Apple's monopoly dominance over iPhone/iPad App distribution. And in a few months, that dominance will come to an end. Also, Apple doesn't lock down the Mac in the same way as the iPad even though the Mac and the iPad have the same exact M1 and M2 chips. Why?
It has in China.
Also, the Play Store accepts almost everything and it was very easy to not pay Google commission. So there were very little incentives to switch stores.