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New EU Law Could Force Apple to Allow Other App Stores, Sideloading, and iMessage Interoperability
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To innovate porn apps, vape apps, scamware, copyware, apps used for sedition, race to the bottom for dev commissions? That type of innovation?
As corporate lobbyists benefits the little guy? Sad you can’t see where this may be heading.
And many don’t.
The only reason is the USA does NOT have a FUNCTIONING or SANE president.
I do believe that pornography has been a great catalyst to technological innovation and sped up its adoption.
As has vaping been innovative to the consumption of tobacco.
Inevitably, freedom provides people the opportunity to create and promote crap.
Or things you just don't personally like.
Considering bipartisan efforts have been made since at least the Trump administration, that surely doesn't seem to be the "only" reason (then again, neither was Trump a "sane" president).
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Focusing on the potential negatives is an unhealthy way to view innovation. A lot of meaningful, desirable innovations have also benefited "objectionable" industries but that doesn't mean those innovations weren’t worthwhile.
Plenty of people have used and do use Apple products for "unsavory" or even illegal activities. Does that therefore mean none of those Apple products were innovative? Does that mean none of those Apple products should've been made? Perhaps Apple should just be shut down.
Reality has to be taken into account. Guns are great as personal protection. Maybe we should allow everyone to get a gun without a background check or license. Let's just focus on the positives and not the negatives.
This type of broad based legislation will facilitate the use of the products for even easier "unsavory" or "illegal" activities. Sure let's shut Apple and Google down and let the world figure out by themselves how they are going to get and use cell phones. Let's roll the clock back to 1980. /s
Irrelevant. But on the same token if this was your dime, you'd be crying a different tune.
Thanks for confirming that your entire argument is based on it costing you money.
I have experienced my Grandparents doing this. Mac's advantage is it has very low marketshare. If you were writing malware, why in the heck would you target mac and not windows?
Likewise, in the last 15 years I have not had one problem on Windows. Doesn't mean they don't exist. I support businesses that continue to get infected due to opening up one attachment on an email and it spreads.
Thanks for jumping to conclusions and not seeing the bigger picture.
Leave iOS be. What is inherently wrong with choice here? Opening up iOS does not help the consumer. It won't suddenly resolve the "duopoly" issue people keep posting here.
The choice here:
Gated community - iOS
Open community - Android
This law would remove that choice. It doesn't matter if I don't enable the setting. It could either A) have a flaw that malware can bypass the setting or B) grandparents/parents/other people can be tricked to turn off/on the setting and get infected. This is like saying a gated community exists, but your neighbor can choose to open up that gate so anyone from the public can come in. So no, that means the gated community does not exist.
We need to be less selfish when it comes to IT security. I am sick of the spam emails and DDoS going on. You know what helps spread these things? Zombie computers. Just because your computer is not infected doesn't mean you are immune to the affects of having infected systems out there. I was able to track an influx of spam to my grandparents getting infected and having their contact list exposed. It was a brand new business email, with a unique domain and only my family knew about it at the time. It was only active for a week before I started getting spammed. No accounts, or business cards or anything had the email on it yet.
And another argument saying "Android offers this but doesn't get exploited", you do know that Epic is/was suing Google due to how "complicated" it is to enable side-loading right? So the argument that Apple can make it "3,000 layers deep" probably won't fly
And yes, take a look at history for once in your life. Using Fortnite as an example, when it got removed from the Play Store, Android users were at risk of getting malware. Epic wants a store on the phones. Look at how they handle this on the PC space. They will take people from the Apple App Store and force the app to be an Epic Store exclusive. The counter argument to this in the past is "well Apple just needs to do better to compete when this happens". Do people not know what exclusivity contracts are? Is Steam doing a poor job to allow Epic to do this on PC? Is Steam a horrible environment where devs want to leave it but "are unable to"? How exactly is Apple expected to compete when Epic offers a developer an exclusivity contract? Developers don't check with Apple if the contract is okay. Sometimes Apple doesn't even know a contract was offered! There is NOTHING Apple could do.
The only way I was able to play Final Fantasy 7 Remake, Tiny Tina, Satisfactory and some more games on PC was through the Epic store. I had NO choice. My buddies wanted to play it and discuss together, my buddies wanted to have co-op sessions. The only choice would be for me to drop my social life for 6-12 months or more until it was available on Steam then my buddies will have moved on. So no, its not an option to have zero social life for a year.
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The choice here:
Gated community - iOS
Open community - Android
This law would remove that choice. It doesn't matter if I don't enable the setting. It could either A) have a flaw that malware can bypass the setting or B) grandparents/parents/other people can be tricked to turn off/on the setting and get infected. This is like saying a gated community exists, but your neighbor can choose to open up that gate so anyone from the public can come in. So no, that means the gated community does not exist.
We need to be less selfish when it comes to IT security. I am sick of the spam emails and DDoS going on. You know what helps spread these things? Zombie computers. Just because your computer is not infected doesn't mean you are immune to the affects of having infected systems out there. I was able to track an influx of spam to my grandparents getting infected and having their contact list exposed. It was a brand new business email, with a unique domain and only my family knew about it at the time. It was only active for a week before I started getting spammed. No accounts, or business cards or anything had the email on it yet.
And another argument saying "Android offers this but doesn't get exploited", you do know that Epic is/was suing Google due to how "complicated" it is to enable side-loading right? So the argument that Apple can make it "3,000 layers deep" probably won't fly
And yes, take a look at history for once in your life. Using Fortnite as an example, when it got removed from the Play Store, Android users were at risk of getting malware. Epic wants a store on the phones. Look at how they handle this on the PC space. They will take people from the Apple App Store and force the app to be an Epic Store exclusive. The counter argument to this in the past is "well Apple just needs to do better to compete when this happens". Do people not know what exclusivity contracts are? Is Steam doing a poor job to allow Epic to do this on PC? Is Steam a horrible environment where devs want to leave it but "are unable to"? How exactly is Apple expected to compete when Epic offers a developer an exclusivity contract? Developers don't check with Apple if the contract is okay. Sometimes Apple doesn't even know a contract was offered! There is NOTHING Apple could do.
The only way I was able to play Final Fantasy 7 Remake, Tiny Tina, Satisfactory and some more games on PC was through the Epic store. I had NO choice. My buddies wanted to play it and discuss together, my buddies wanted to have co-op sessions. The only choice would be for me to drop my social life for 6-12 months or more until it was available on Steam then my buddies will have moved on. So no, its not an option to have zero social life for a year.
Fortnite players using Android phones at risk of malware infections
Developer’s decision to bypass Google Play Store could have dangerous security impact, experts say
Impostor 'Fortnite' Android Apps Are Already Spreading Malware
New analysis from mobile security firm Lookout shows that malware authors are taking full advantage of 'Fortnite' ditching the Google Play Store.
Attention Fortnite Fans: The New Android App Was Found Containing a Massive Vulnerability | McAfee Blog
Back in June, Fortnite fans, hopeful for an Android version of the game, were teased with fake apps, which were in turn part of a cybercriminal’s scheme.
www.mcafee.com
Epic Games Has Already Exposed Android Users To Unacceptable Fortnite Malware Risks
The first Fortnite installer for Android included a flaw that could allow other apps to load malware instead of the game.
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Fair but it can be handled the same way it is on Android by adding a toggle to allow apps from 'unknown developers' ie non app store sources.
Nobodys Granny need toggle it off.
Exactly, that’s why this these regulations are a sham.
Again, you don't care about 'the bigger picture' , which is just lots of nonsense the App Store is riddled with scams
A “throw the baby out with the bath water” person definitely does not see the bigger picture of why this legislation is bad, in my humble opinion.
Everything tricks these people. Do you think my grandma would install something if it had giant bold letters "THIS IS MALWARE"? No. It was a trick. Same would apply to iOS.
So? Opening up the App Store will HELP with scams? NO OTHER STORE that will get created will have scams? There will be a 0% growth in scam apps? Its not even a discussion worth entertaining IMO because it is impossible.
Alternative to the comment would be like "crime still exists, so lets force the cops in the country to cut half their employees".
I have said it before, if you want scam apps to be removed, advocate for Apple to have 3-6 month App Review timelines. Developers want fast app reviews, so things are not examined closely. We need slower app reviews to remove the scam apps, NOT more stores.
Oh the horror oh no people will be able to install software without Apples permission like nearly every other operating system in existence.
No i never said it would help with scams. The App Store isn't stopping scams on the platform that is the point.
If this was your livelihood, your intellectual property, your software, you’d be crying. But yeah, the horror stories will eventually come to the surface.
And like I said - the solution is longer App Review times. Not opening up iOS.
The police doesn't prevent all crime in existence.
It's a theoretical choice - when in reality no one chooses their smartphone OS based on that as their first or only criterion.
No. You're still free to choose to live in your gated community by only downloading from Apple's store.
That's a fallacy - because such sideloading exists today by way of abusing enterprise developer certificates.
Some of them openly touting how revoke-proof and quick to re-sign are if Apple revoked their certificate.
I don't live in a gated community - but I would be very surprised if you can't invite people to your house/apartment on your own - i.e. without having been vetted and approved by the community administration.
Whereas you are like saying: "No, I don't invite and non-members over to my house - that's why my neighbours shouldn't be able to do it either".
Isn't it kind of ironic how someone who "had no choice" where to download his game of choice is all for restricting choice on an even lower layer (the operating system)?
Well that ship has sailed. Also their App Review process is open to abuse hence all of the antitrust investigations.
Invest in something that hasn't been banned?
Can you prove that statement. No one is a big criteria, all it takes is for one to prove it false.
That doesn’t mean the ecosystem won’t take a dive.
It doesn’t exist on iOS , a platform that could be ripe for abuse.
Not the same.
No it’s not ironic.
That's like complaining:
"The only way I can get one particular product in town is to buy it from Walmart, cause they stock it exclusively. I have no choice" 😭
But also...
"Why should everyone in town being forced to buy everything from Target be a problem - as long as we can trust Target's merchandise quality review process? (And also, you can move away to Canada, if you don't like it)" 🤷♀️
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