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Thats true, but we need to compare against the latest Rocket Lake processors which were announced in March 2021, after all you are not spending your money back in November last year. If you were to buy a computer now, your choices would be a 24” iMac or a Dell XPS featuring the latest Intel chip.

I was actually comparing against the chip in a comparably priced Dell Inspiron 27". I went looking for a Dell AIO and this was the first thing I found at a similar price range. If I were to buy a computer now, this is one is a candidate.

And as far as single-threaded performance goes, Intel had a very good update, the latest 11th generation desktop chips now score about 1600 on single-threaded Geekbench 5, compared to 1250 a year or so ago. Which is probably why they have released chips with a couple of cores less. In multithreaded mode the latest i5 scores about between 7200 and 8200, the i7 between 9000 and 11000, the i9 between 8500 and 11500. The M1 consistently scores about 1700 single threaded, 7700 multi-threaded.

The M1 is still beating on single core performance? Is the difference in multicore at the i7 tier due to more cores versus the 4+4 design of the M1?

The thing is, Apple has not been very good at keeping machines up to date the last few years. Some Intel macs were still featuring 8th generation processors, and so comparing performance against what has come before is going to favour the new M1 chips heavily. A lot of YouTubers are also playing that game, comparing against whatever machine they have on hand.

Which is why I went into the PC space to find an equivalent style product instead of playing the percentage faster than our previous model. Given that historically iMacs have used the lower class of Intel CPU, this seems like an even comparison though given that the latest Intel i5's product comparable results to the M1?

Bottom line, you’re buying the whole package, design, great screen, peripherals, processor and macOS. I still like the iMac, it’s a great computer and I suspect it will be fast enough for my needs, although I may have to hold out for the 30” version.

It's probably overkill for me too, I personally don't think I'd want to go down in screen size (currently on 2015 27" iMac). In reality it still does everything I ask of it so I personally have a hard time justifying the replacement but that's a problem for future me to reckon with after the launch.
 
It is not a general purpose desktop computer. It is an all-in-one desktop computer. Connecting lots of other devices to such a computer goes against its raison d'être.
I'm sorry, but this is utter nonsense dreamed up after the fact to defend the indefensible. What on earth does it being an AIO have to do with ports?

If connecting lots of other devices is somehow antithetical to the idea of an AIO (a notion that has never once been expressed until Apple removed ports), why do you get two more USB-C ports plus ethernet on the $1499 model? And why does the 21.5" entry level intel iMac, which Apple still sells at full price, have a 3.5mm headphone jack, SDXC card slot, 4x USB-A, 2x USB-C / Thunderbolt 3, and gigabit ethernet?

Being an AIO has never had anything to do with ports on any prior iMac, and it still doesn't now. This is Apple being cheap and forcing the upsell. There is no other reason - none - not to have a decent array of ports on a $1300 desktop computer.
 
Love entering macrumors and seeing this : :)

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My wife loves the new iMac, and she does not like desktop computers. So maybe it will end up being a gift to replace her 2012 macbook.
 
I expect the bigger 30" iMac to be a bit more serious in performance and colouring. Bigger screen, more memory, heftier M processor (whatever the nomenclature), more ports... and I bet it will carry the Pro moniker 🤓. I still have some hope for user upgradeable memory, but I'm afraid those days will be behind us.
 
I think it's interesting how those who dislike the design start describing their perfect iMac design as what the previous models already are, with the exception of the slim bezels. Like we already have that design, buy those models! Just because Apple releases a new model doesn't mean it's a compulsory buy, not everyone has $2k lying around to jump on the latest computer on release day. And if you do need a new computer always it sounds like a Mac Pro or PC would be better for you so you can upgrade components.
My complaint is that the base model only has two USBC/TB ports. And that there's no larger version for me to replace my 27" iMac, but I'm certain those will arrive soon.
 
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The design — inside, outside — beautiful. Perfectly positioned in the Mac lineup.

I get it all — the M1, the colors, the white bezel, the logo-less chin, the power brick. Brilliant.

What exactly do some not get about this remarkable machine?

Your opinion is pretty rare.
 
I think it's interesting how those who dislike the design start describing their perfect iMac design as what the previous models already are, with the exception of the slim bezels. Like we already have that design, buy those models!
I want Apple Silicon with a decent design. Failing that, I would consider an intel imac at a decent discount, but I’d probably want the 21” 4K with 16/512, and I can’t get that anywhere but Apple (and now, not from Apple, either).
 
I'm sorry, but this is utter nonsense dreamed up after the fact to defend the indefensible. What on earth does it being an AIO have to do with ports?

If connecting lots of other devices is somehow antithetical to the idea of an AIO (a notion that has never once been expressed until Apple removed ports)

If you need to connect a lot of things to a computer how can that computer be an ALL-in-ONE? "All" implies everything.

The name implies that the computer has ALL which is needed put into ONE device.

If you want to connect a lot of devices, a regular desktop computer would be better.
 
Reading this while my 2009 iMac is staring at me. She knows her days are numbered...

Not to disregard the users that want many port options, but I agree that most users probably don’t need this. I only need two usb at the most.

I have never used the sd card slot — instead just connected my camera directly via usb. But now all of my photos are shot with an iPhone, so either cloud or usb is all I need.
i will miss the SD cuz i do use it to download pics from my "real" camera to my iMac.... but it's an easy fix to buy one that plugs in. (we have 2011 iMacs that have been getting slower and slower.... looking forward to new pink and ???? iMacs in this household!)
 
If you need to connect a lot of things to a computer how can that computer be an ALL-in-ONE? "All" implies everything.

The name implies that the computer has ALL which is needed put into ONE device.

If you want to connect a lot of devices, a regular desktop computer would be better.
The only thing "All In One" has ever meant is that you can use the damn thing immediately when you pull it out of the box and plug it in.

The very first macs were AIO. And plenty of people bought printers and modems and joysticks for them which required. . . ports. The horrors!

The AIO imac is a great deal over a Mac Mini + comparable monitor +keyboard. It comes with a great monitor, presumably a very good sound system, and a webcam. This is a very good package deal for those of us who use lots of peripherals for graphic, video, sound production, gaming, coding, whatever. Apple's biggest mistake in this model is to forget how a huge chunk of its target market uses these machines and would benefit from more ports.

"AIO" is not some type of philosophical position or moral objective. It just means "package deal that looks good."
 
I am warming to the idea by the day following my initial emphatic NO! I need to see the mustard yellow first hand.

Not really any movement for me. Still not a fan of the Fisher-Price/Starbust colors, white keycaps on the keyboard or the white bezels. Also, it's a desktop computer - meaning that it sits on your desktop. Apple's obsession with thinness is off the charts. I don't care that it's the thinnest iMac ever - it's going to sit on a desk in my office ... not like I'm going to be hauling back and forth to work or the coffee shop in a backpack.
 
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Apple's obsession with thinness is off the charts. I don't care that it's the thinnest iMac ever - it's going to sit on a desk in my office ... not like I'm going to be hauling back and forth to work or the coffee shop in a backpack.
The way I see it, I'm not sacrificing anything for that thinness. If modern logic boards are only a few square inches, a computer can now be just a flat screen on a stand; and it looks good. The so called chin that bothers some, houses the speakers as well as the fans and logic board. I just don't see why anyone would prefer a bigger fatter unit with empty space inside.
 
The design — inside, outside — beautiful. Perfectly positioned in the Mac lineup.

I get it all — the M1, the colors, the white bezel, the logo-less chin, the power brick. Brilliant.

What exactly do some not get about this remarkable machine?

Like I've said before in a few thread on this, I'm perfectly fine with people saying, "Gee, I sure wish it didn't have that 'chin'" or "Why didn't they give us ONE model with a black bezel! :(" etc. Obviously no device is going to please everyone. But I think where it goes beyond the pale is when people start implying Apple made a "HUGE mistake" for not designing it around their personal wish-list or that the machine is "atrocious" (or insert whatever extreme adjective you wish) because it didn't look exactly the way they wanted it to or have the precise ports they wanted it to, etc. That's just silly.

Having said that, 24" doesn't do it for me after using 27" for so many years. If I were in the market for a new iMac right now (I'm not because I just bought an almost-maxed-out Intel 5k last year), I'd probably actually get a maxed out Mac Mini and a third-party 30"+ 4k monitor. . . . or wait until they introduced a larger iMac, but patience is hard, LOL!
 
It is, but that's opinions for you - people take their own very seriously.

Of course. Someone could have a dead-serious opinion that rainbows are the ugliest apparitions on earth, but 99% of the rest of humanity would likely say that was an extreme opinion and not to be taken seriously.
 
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