iPad Pro New iPad Pros?

[rui no onna]

The iPad 3 & 4 issue and when Apple released the 1st generation iPhone with 4GBs then later 8GBs while dropping the price of it. And the iPhone issue came under Steve Jobs

Iirc, 4GB and 8GB were both released at the same time for $499 and $599 respectively. Then a couple months later, they drop the 4GB from the line up (it could be found at Walmart for $299 on clearance), dropped the 8GB down to $399 and released a $499 16GB model. 8GB just wasn't enough for my music so I managed to skip that drama and went directly with 16GB.

 

[Ludatyk]

IMO it’s likely that Apple released a 6 GB model in 2018 to give developers a big hint what was coming, and to allow them to prepare for this in advance, to have everything in place for the release of iPadOS.

I think 6GB is mainly for Adobe... given they are planning on releasing Photoshop in the near future. That's going to be a major selling point for Apple.

Iirc, 4GB and 8GB were both released at the same time for $499 and $599 respectively. Then a couple months later, they drop the 4GB from the line up (it could be found at Walmart for $299 on clearance), dropped the 8GB down to $399 and released a $499 16GB model. 8GB just wasn't enough for my music so I managed to skip that drama and went directly with 16GB.

Yeah, you're right. I had the 4Gb at the time... maybe 8GB, I can't remember. All I remember how disappointed I was at the time when Apple dropped the price of the 8GB. Getting that 16GB was definitely the better buy!

 

[camedenliving]

Apple is considering a switchable 60Hz/120Hz refresh rate screen on the iPhone in 2020, and is discussing with Samsung and LG
For iPad
The tablet continues to use LCD technology however, and Apple has yet to implement 120 hertz on any of its OLED products.

 

[Maven1975]

If it does come out... don't expect to find them cheap.

Better have a backlit keyboard folio, stronger casing and a big boost in speed to make it worth the swap from Gen 3.

 

[rumz]

If it does come out... don't expect to find them cheap.

Better have a backlit keyboard folio, stronger casing and a big boost in speed to make it worth the swap from Gen 3.

Worth the swap to who? I’m pretty sure releasing an updated iPad Pro is not contingent on convincing people with the 2018 model to upgrade, if that’s what you’re talking about. I’m currently on the first gen iPad Pro. Even the 2018 3rd gen is very attractive to me. But as close as we are to fall announcements, I figure I can hold out for a couple months just to see what happens. (Unless I see another $450 discount... might be hard to pass that up).

 

[Ratsaremyfreinds]

ot but i forgot if i asked this b4 but how long will it take to see see 5nm cpus?

 

[rumz]

ot but i forgot if i asked this b4 but how long will it take to see see 5nm cpus?

We might see them as early as fall 2020.

https://9to5mac.com/2019/07/19/5nm-chips/

 

[Premal212]

Worth the swap to who? I’m pretty sure releasing an updated iPad Pro is not contingent on convincing people with the 2018 model to upgrade, if that’s what you’re talking about. I’m currently on the first gen iPad Pro. Even the 2018 3rd gen is very attractive to me. But as close as we are to fall announcements, I figure I can hold out for a couple months just to see what happens. (Unless I see another $450 discount... might be hard to pass that up).

$450 discount, jheeeeeeeze, I’m over in the UK but where was this? I’ll happily snag one if I can get it for that cheap.

 

[rui no onna]

$450 discount, jheeeeeeeze, I’m over in the UK but where was this? I’ll happily snag one if I can get it for that cheap.

Probably on the 512GB-1TB or LTE models. Iirc, the only time I saw it at that discount was with 2-year contract with Verizon.

 

[Dave245]

I had originally been guessing early spring, but with iPadOS coming and Ming-Chi Kuo’s 2019 forecast, I’m now predicting fall 2019

Why do you think iPadOS has anything to do with new iPad Pros?

I think it's interesting that Apple have separated the iPad with it's own OS, the new features will be great, however i'm not sure if that means anything for new iPad Pros.

 

[EugW]

Why do you think iPadOS has anything to do with new iPad Pros?

I think it's interesting that Apple have separated the iPad with it's own OS, the new features will be great, however i'm not sure if that means anything for new iPad Pros.

The new iPadOS is a game changer. Having a shiny new set of iPad Pros to go along with it makes sense.

 

[Donka]

The new iPadOS is a game changer. Having a shiny new set of iPad Pros to go along with it makes sense.

The flip side is that many people will see iPadOS as the upgrade and not feel any need to update their current iPad Pro for what would most likely be a small spec bump. I certainly fall into that category.

 

[EugW]

The flip side is that many people will see iPadOS as the upgrade and not feel any need to update their current iPad Pro for what would most likely be a small spec bump. I certainly fall into that category.

Sure, esp. if you already have a 2018. But if you have anything older, iPadOS plus 2019 Pro might be a very compelling upgrade.

For myself, I probably would have kept my 2017 model that I bought in 2019, but my wife wants it so I’m inclined to upgrade. At this point I have very little interest in the 2018 models. They are not available for refurb here in Canada but I wouldn’t be interested even at refurb pricing.

 

[EugW]

As expected, the 2018 iPad Pros can only support up to 4Kp60 on external monitors, including on the new USB-C compatible LG 5K Ultrafine monitor. However, it should be noted that DisplayPort.org states that technically it can support 5K over USB-C. (I'm not talking about Thunderbolt here.) This makes me wonder if the the new 2019/2020 iPad Pros would be able to do this.

 

[Dave245]

The new iPadOS is a game changer. Having a shiny new set of iPad Pros to go along with it makes sense.

Good point, iPadOS is going to get better over time, each year it will probably be updated at WWDC.

 

[rumz]

As expected, the 2018 iPad Pros can only support up to 4Kp60 on external monitors, including on the new USB-C compatible LG 5K Ultrafine monitor. However, it should be noted that DisplayPort.org states that technically it can support 5K over USB-C. (I'm not talking about Thunderbolt here.) This makes me wonder if the the new 2019/2020 iPad Pros would be able to do this.

Had the same thought when I saw that the iPad Pro would only do 4k on the new display (though I think we knew that the curent iPad Pro could only output 4k, right?). Not sure if we'll have to wait till the A14x to hit 5k support or not.
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$450 discount, jheeeeeeeze, I’m over in the UK but where was this? I’ll happily snag one if I can get it for that cheap.

Yeah Amazon had the silver 12.9" 1tb wifi+cellular listed at $450 off for a few hours last Friday... I waffled on that one. I should have headed straight out the door to Best Buy to get them to price match before it was gone. (preferred buying local in case of any issues with the device).

 

[Ludatyk]

Good point, iPadOS is going to get better over time, each year it will probably be updated at WWDC.

Apple have always updated the iPad platform each year at WWDC, but sometimes it doesn’t get much screen time. It just depends on what features Apple announces for the platform.

The iPadOS is for marketing, IMO. Although, it does help to distinguish the operating system...

 

[rumz]

Apple have always updated the iPad platform each year at WWDC, but sometimes it doesn’t get much screen time. It just depends on what features Apple announces for the platform.

The iPadOS is for marketing, IMO. Although, it does help to distinguish the operating system...

Marketing or not, there were years where you don't see much new specific to the iPad. They could just call it an iOS update and not worry about whether there was anything noteworthy for the iPad. It's hard to imagine them doing that now with a separate OS to talk about... but who knows. I suppose they could mention it every so briefly like they did things like AppleTV this year.

 

[pdoherty]

October last year (2018) saw a very big update to the iPad Pro, a redesign and second gen Apple Pencil update. After such a big update, I can't see Apple updating the iPad Pro until 2020, think about the people that would be pretty annoyed if they announce an all new iPad Pro..

Sort of like how pissed all of us who bought iPad 3s were, when the 4 came out what, 6 months later?

 

[rui no onna]

Sort of like how pissed all of us who bought iPad 3s were, when the 4 came out what, 6 months later?

That's 6 months though and they were released in the same calendar year. At 1 year later, I don't think it's much of an issue.

 

[Ludatyk]

That's 6 months though and they were released in the same calendar year. At 1 year later, I don't think it's much of an issue.

Won’t be an issue at all, IMO. I understand the argument of releasing a new iPP along side iPadOS, but the 2018 iPP is darn good right now.

Even with the official release of iPadOS that can cause a spike in growth without the need for a new one. I've had every 12.9” iPP since they first released in 2015… I for one, won’t look to upgrade if Apple does decide to release a new one this year. And if history is any indication, apart from iPadOS… iOS 11 was the latest major update to the iPP and they did somewhat released the new one along side iOS 11.

It’s kind of odd how they went about that year in 2017, they released new iPP in June… yet iOS 11 was in September that year. So, either in Fall… if it’s ready. But I bet on a Spring release.

 

[Codeseven]

Is the Screen Freeze problem well known enough for people to say No to a new Pro unless Apple can demonstrate it is fixed via a software update (iPadOS) or new hardware?

My Gen3 Pro has the problem, it’s only made tolerable by leaving the Pencil attached (no, I won’t return it for yet another Pro with the same problem). Not that I need a new Pro, but there’s no way I would buy a new one, or even recommended a Pro to anyone, unless I’m guaranteed the problem is fixed. (Please God let it be a software fix).

 

[littlerock72202]

might need to wait for the 2019 iPad 10.2 inches

 

[bensisko]

Personally, I always dismiss any argument that's based on "does or does not make sense" - mostly because we see the patterns that we want to see and it's not necessarily what Apple's marketing or strategic plan is (though I'm also learning not to ever say "Apple will or will not do ________").

The long and the short of it is that the iPhone and OS software is about the only thing we can ever reliably say will release on a regular schedule. It's pretty obvious we're going to see new iPads. Will there be new Pros? There's a lot of conflicting data, but I'm guessing not unless there's a good reason to.

Having said that, the upcoming release could be very telling about Apple's future iPad strategy. Their latest release was the Air 3 and the Mini 5 back in the spring. What is going to be the distinguishing factor between the new "iPad" and "iPad Air" products? Maybe it would be a good idea to update two sets of iPad products at a time (iPad/iPad Pro, and Air/Mini).

An argument against new iPad Pros (at least in relation to release of iPad OS) is that iPad OS will be released around the iPhone event. The only reason to show a new iPad at the iPhone event is if there isn't a compelling update to the iPhone / Watch. Also, a consumer iPad with iPadOS might be a better shot to target the masses instead of putting a focus on the Pro.

At the end of the day, if you're in the market for a new Pro buying advice is the same as always: Get what you need when you need/want it. Even if there are new Pros, I doubt the upgrade would be significant at this point where it's going to last that much longer than the 2018 models.

 

[EugW]

Even if there are new Pros, I doubt the upgrade would be significant at this point where it's going to last that much longer than the 2018 models.

A 6 GB iPad Pro would be a huge advantage over a 4 GB model for longevity.

Not everyone wants or needs a 1 TB iPad Pro just to get 6 GB.