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Doesn't 'tacky gimmick' usually spell 'end of the line' at Apple?

That imac run on wacky color combos was close to the end of the crt gum drops. I would similarly expect the iPod nano is going into the toilet by january 2010. iPod touch will take over, with the shuffle always keeping a low end market in order.
I'm not so sure if these color combos will be as wacky as the iMacs did. More like two-toned or so.
 
Wow. Another great page 1 story. Not.

Doesn't 'tacky gimmick' usually spell 'end of the line' at Apple?

That imac run on wacky color combos was close to the end of the crt gum drops. I would similarly expect the iPod nano is going into the toilet by january 2010. iPod touch will take over, with the shuffle always keeping a low end market in order.

Maybe. But then again at that time, everything was in wacky colors. But then I remember before the nintendo 64 ended it went from the gray to the transparrent colors...

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I was more thinking something like that.

Now that is something that could happen. None of this childish crap others are posting

How about getting two iPod classics?

Yeah. spend close to 700 or 800 bucks? no thanks. if you dont like large HDS then just get a shuffle. you can hold 20 or so songs and just shuffle them around

It won't go multi-touch like people have suggested. Apple just redesigned the GUI on the iPod touch.

erm dont you mean ipod classic/ipod nano? they got the new UI. the ipod touch just got the iphones dock in the first firmware update. not really a huge UI change

The next step appears to be 240 GB on the high-end.

now that wont be that bad. but carfull the guys on here will be complaining its to much

Just because you don't have a large music collection doesn't mean that there aren't thousands of us who collections that far exceed the available storage offered by the iPod classic. I'd love to one day see an iPod with a TB of storage....

While I dont have over a thousnad of songs I HATE shuffling my stuff around. I want all my stuff on there at once.

You also would never in a million years need that much space on your friggen portable music player. Browsing through it would be insanely hard, you wouldn't be able to find anything. Do you NEVER want to hear the same song twice? I'm completely willing to bet that you don't even listen to HALF of your music collection frequently at all.

of course we want to hear it twice, that's why you put it on repeat. oh and add a search feature like in 5.5G then you can find your music. doesnt take a rocket scitencet to figure that one out

I hope that they change the physical appearance of the nano. I'm not a big fan of the "fat" iPod.

its not that fat. I find it very appealing. people wanted video so they got it
 
Yeah. spend close to 700 or 800 bucks? no thanks. if you dont like large HDS then just get a shuffle. you can hold 20 or so songs and just shuffle them around
I wasn't being serious.

erm dont you mean ipod classic/ipod nano? they got the new UI. the ipod touch just got the iphones dock in the first firmware update. not really a huge UI change
Yep. I did mean iPod nano/classic.
 
Okay, well pardon me on my format deficiencies. I cede that point.
Good. Unfortunately there are many other points you should cede.

but now, having established that we're talking about a particular breed of audiophiles that has requirements far from the norm, shouldn't we just throw all these preconceptions aside?
Are you for real? The only thing that separates me from most "audiophiles" (sorry I dislike that word – it reminds me of places like head-fi and people who buy into snake oil), is that I also have a huge load of audio I have produced myself. But even without, we're not talking about a "special breed".
Just because you cannot fathom that people obviously older than you have much more music than you, just because you cannot fathom how one uses better headphones than the standard sub-par issue, and just because you think that lossy formats are THE format, doesn't make me a "special breed" whatsoever.
I know it's hard for you, but at last try to acknowledge that the mere fact of using uncompressed audio (from a cd, that's 11 times as big fils as a 128kbps file) and being a bit older than you will double the amount of space one needs many-fold.


If you're that hell-bent on quality, you're bound to look further than just an iPod refresh...
I'm not "hell-bent" on it, I just prefer it. In my first post in this thread I even mentioned I don't have any iPods (anymore), but another player, and when you have reread that, you will notice when I entered into this discussion: I did that when you and some other blokes were saying that people would NEVER use that much space, that it was unneeded, and then you jumped in with your nonsense about the Touch and iPhone being big enough as one could STREAM the music. Hell, you even suggested streaming it over 3G, and use pandora.

If you look back, I was talking about having a need for space, and why it's good to bring it along, rather than streaming it, and how unsettling it is, that some people speak of this as if people with a large (in GB, not necessarily tracks) music collection is asking the impossible when they say they'd like some more space. And it was THAT ignorance I was trying to correct.

Obviously, some people dug their heels in, and refused to learn and respect other views even a little bit.
 
Even if a 65 year old woman isnt the type you'll see with an ipod, there are 65 year old woman who listen to music on ipods... and I'm sure she doesnt want a bight yellow, lime green and neon blue ipod

Don't be too REALLY sure about that, pal. A woman who is 65 now has about a 70% chance of having been at least a closet hippie in the 1960s. The ones who weren't hippies, if they ever even ended up with a computer at all, they might now own a Zune... I'll grant you that a woman who's in her 40s now would probably not go for a flower power iPod. She's the soccer mom with MBA type, probably has a Zen player.

So let Apple bring on the lime and magenta polka-dotted iPods, life is short... and if one ends up not liking some iPod's new color options, there's always an iSkin duo or a Gelaskin to mask the original coloring.

If they make the backs of iPod touch plastic the next time around, I can see Gelaskin coming up with cool stuff to put on them.
 
I'm not so sure if these color combos will be as wacky as the iMacs did. More like two-toned or so.

And you are so sure because....

YOU ARE STEVE JOBS!!!

Going away from one color means they have free reign to do whatever they want, and they did whatever they wanted long ago with iMacs and it went spazzy. Most likely they will just color the dials differently or put color trim on... I would rather hear about the functions than the veneer.
 
/snip/ Most likely they will just color the dials differently or put color trim on... I would rather hear about the functions than the veneer.

yeh the whole colors thing is starting to sound like a trip to PC Colorware -- I used to fantasize about getting a bunch of refurb 4th gen 40Gb clickwheels and shipping them off to those guys for some body work. But redecorating any nano that way seems like it would be very expensive per unit of area, since it's the same fussy process.

Despite my earlier comment about flower-power nanos not being out of the question for ladies of a certain age (you know... 29 twice and then some), I personally like the concept that Gradient Mac posted earlier for a nano update. Simple but with some understated trim is the new hot... and if one tires of it, there are all manner of 3rd party aftermarket options.
 
in all seriousness

i suspect, though I am not an Apple Devo so I don't know, that the way off the future will be more solid state use and less actual drives. so the classics will eventually die out. from what I can tell the devo on them is frozen anyway.

the shuffle will likely never really go away although pushing up to a 4 and 8 gig model might not be a bad thing. if they stay on the lower end of price. that little $49 model is a great starter for kids that just gotta have one but Mom and Dad are worried they aren't ready to be responsible for something costly.

I suppose a touch screen nano could happen. Certainly bigger storage on the touch and even the phone would be a plus. but it would have to come as costs come down. I don't see anyone willing to pay $1000 for an 80Gig phone and right now, it would go that high. maybe half that price and it would sell.

as for the colors thing. aside from the red series which is a charity tie in, I would rather see less colors. I was at my local store last night and I overheard a convo between a Mom and little girl and the sales person. The little girl wanted a pink nano but Mom would only let her get a 4gig and that's only in silver. the little girl looked like she was about to try. but the sales person noticed that Mom had a nano in her hand and it was in a case. so she simply told the girl that she could get a case like Mom's and then if she ever had a new favorite color, she could get a new case. Mom nodded furiously, problem solved. they found a pink case with flowers on it and the little girl thought that was the coolest thing in the world. so likely would other folks. so ditch the colors and focus on the internals is the way I'd hope Apple goes
 
as for the colors thing. aside from the red series which is a charity tie in, I would rather see less colors. I was at my local store last night and I overheard a convo between a Mom and little girl and the sales person. The little girl wanted a pink nano but Mom would only let her get a 4gig and that's only in silver. the little girl looked like she was about to try. but the sales person noticed that Mom had a nano in her hand and it was in a case. so she simply told the girl that she could get a case like Mom's and then if she ever had a new favorite color, she could get a new case. Mom nodded furiously, problem solved. they found a pink case with flowers on it and the little girl thought that was the coolest thing in the world. so likely would other folks. so ditch the colors and focus on the internals is the way I'd hope Apple goes

I agree. The iPod is a very slick product, and I would hate to see it become too childish. Apple could introduce a whole new range of covers for iPods to satisfy the people who want them to be multi-coloured . I think the colours Apple currently offer are perfect.
My .02
 
I agree. The iPod is a very slick product, and I would hate to see it become too childish. Apple could introduce a whole new range of covers for iPods to satisfy the people who want them to be multi-coloured . I think the colours Apple currently offer are perfect.
My .02

I agree, abd most of the people who want these childish colors are anywhere between 13 and 16 years old they have no tastes
 
I think apple has learned to avoid such tacky patterns and they're probably looking at something similar to the iPhone with the metal edging and choice of color on the back or like someone has already mentioned the iMac with the black/aluminum. However, they could also be looking into something like two toned paint that can be seen on some cars and it changes color depending on how the light hits it.
 
I think if Apple wants to better perceive itself as "green," they should reduce the number of colors on the 4G nano to just silver and black. Give that many modern protective cases for the nano cover up the player so well you couldn't tell what color the case is, going to fewer colors may not be such a bad idea.
 
Here are the two things I don't understand:

A) Why are so many people intent on seeing the Nano killed? I bought one classic, sold it, and have since bought two Nanos. I never want to go back to a HDD-based player. Flash memory is so much better for my needs. I also don't want a touch screen. I use my Nano when working out or doing yardwork and a touchscreen would get abused. I would never buy a Shuffle. I want to control the song I'm listening to and I definitely want a screen. I see nothing wrong with the current hierarachy.

B) Why do people get upset about capacity increases? Why would you WANT to limit yourself? Even if you don't have that much music now, you might in the future. Do you really NEVER hear new music you like? I discover new artists all the time. If you don't... I feel for you. As for not being able to listen to it all in one sitting: that's not the point! I want to be able to listen to what I want, when I want... period! I don't want to have to try to predict what I may be in the mood for and deal with swapping songs off if I'm in a hurry. I just want it all there any time I have the desire to hear it. If having unused flash memory capacity REALLY bothers you... buy one of the lesser models. One of you people that is advocating against capacity increases... please explain why it makes you so angry that other people might dare utilize more space than you or have broader musical taste than you. I really don't get it.
 
Here are the two things I don't understand:

A) Why are so many people intent on seeing the Nano killed?

B) Why do people get upset about capacity increases?

A) I think the reality of the hardware caused by the iPhone is making the nano a kind of wilted branch on the Apple tree. The shuffle will stay where it is for a long time, hopefully getting cheaper. Then the iPod touch will probably dominate the line as the hardware gets cheaper in the next 3 years. With x million iPhones being made the hardware development and manufacture costs will plummet drastically, so using that basis for all future iPods will probably be unavoidable.

I have a nano from 2 years back, and love it. But the newer ones with video are such 'happy meal' product compared to the rest of the line. Maybe the shuffle will get an axe or reduction to $25, and the nano will have room as a $99 item.

B) I think that is just because of money issues. Without video there are few people with need for over 20 GB. I can't even find enough songs from my huge main library to make a nice 4 GB fill on my nano. 3 GB is all I get up to before the nano library becomes a burden.
 
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