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What time of day will it go on sale? Will it be a worldwide ordering at the same time?

I found the same press release on Apple Japan's Web.

http://www.apple.com/jp/pr/library/2013/12/18All-New-Mac-Pro-Available-Starting-Tomorrow.html

They say, they will start accepting orders from Dec. 19th in Japan.
If it is noon in Japan, it is 10PM EST, 7PM PST Dec. 18th in the US and it is 3AM, Dec. 19th in London.

If it is midnight PST, I have to wait until 5 PM Japan Time today.
 
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Is this just assembly, versus manufacture of the components?


Most of the components of the Mac Pro are not made in Austin. It is assembled there. The components are spread out over a couple of States and another couple of countries.

the video that Apple put out was shot in couple different locations. That isn't all in Austin.
 
Most of the components of the Mac Pro are not made in Austin. It is assembled there. The components are spread out over a couple of States and another couple of countries.

the video that Apple put out was shot in couple different locations. That isn't all in Austin.

Hmm... that, if you take Tim's tweet literally, would indicate there was a delay in one/more of the components.
 
Most of the components of the Mac Pro are not made in Austin. It is assembled there. The components are spread out over a couple of States and another couple of countries.

the video that Apple put out was shot in couple different locations. That isn't all in Austin.

Okay, so in that respect I had close the right idea. Then if the Austin plant is just gearing up but the component manufacture ones have already been cranking for a while, might that not bode well for them getting orders assembled fairly quickly?
 
Well, the Tim said.. "We have begun manufacturing the Mac Pro in Austin."

Does that mean this week? Kinda hard to tell there...

They would have been making the bits for a long time now. It's not like somebody walked in yesterday and pulled the giant lever marked, "Start Mac Pro assembly now"

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Hmm... that, if you take Tim's tweet literally, would indicate there was a delay in one/more of the components.

I would say so. The CPUs and the TB2 controllers are the most likely culprits.
 
So how does the "pre-order" stuff work tax wise? I'm pretty sure your credit card is not billed until it ships.

If using profession services to do your taxes that is a far better question directed at them than here.

It is generally far cleaner and simpler to recognize expenses and revenues when they actually happen as oppose to "on paper" happen. Companies that get caught 'cooking the books' tend to drift toward the latter over time.
 
Okay, so in that respect I had close the right idea. Then if the Austin plant is just gearing up but the component manufacture ones have already been cranking for a while, might that not bode well for them getting orders assembled fairly quickly?

The modern Apple has a deep aversion to inventory. Generally, Apple tries to make enough to sell a several weeks ahead of time and no more.

For launches that generally causes a temporary demand bubble where the number they can made doesn't match how many folks are buying. There is probably some inventory built up, but most likely almost none of that are BTO configs. The BTO configs will be built as there is "spare" capacity on the manufacturing line.

If in the initial launch bubble Apple is utterly swamped for standard configus there won't be much if any "spare time". If huge fraction of folks all buy BTOs again... there isn't much supply there so it would take a while to get built.

Whether the suppliers are holding inventory of parts is their problem. Apple probably has contracts that say they can ask for up to XX amount per month and they better deliver if they want to keep getting Apple contracts long term.

I highly doubt the plant is "Just getting geared up". Far more likely they have gotten to a point where they consistently operate at targeted levels. If the factory targets are 5K-8K per month then they have been running effectively and measured doing so at least 6K/month that is the point where would say had "begun manufacturing". If not at the target rates really the phase you are in is the "getting the bugs out".


6K over the last 4 weeks isn't going to be much if there are 10-12K folks who want the Mac Pro in the first two weeks of sales.
 
deconstruct60 is likely right that the factory isn't "just getting geared up."

From an electronics hardware perspective, there are five major build states:
  1. Prototype (PROTO)
  2. Engineering Validation Test (EVT)
  3. Design Validation Test (DVT)
  4. Production Validation Test (PVT) / ramp
  5. Mass Production (MP), or Steady State Production

The Austin manufacturing line should be at the fifth stage, Steady State Production, and has probably been that way for several weeks.

There may be some scarcity of parts, there often are for new Apple products (particularly major silicon, like CPUs and GPUs, as well as display panels).

The PVT/ramp phase that precedes Steady State Production would be when manufacturing procedure would be honed.

In the same way, when a fancy new restaurant opens, there are often a few invitation only pre-opening parties that effectively behave like the engineering PVT/ramp phase. Once the restaurant is open, they are in Steady State Production. You just can't close the kitchen at 7pm because they ran out of steaks or because they are "trying to figure things out."

That might happen at your freshmen year dorm kegger, but these are professionals.
 
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Well, we'll find out tomorrow when we pull up the website and it says "shipping in...."...
 
I, too, just heard from an independent source that tomorrow is the day.

Thanks. We have the official Apple release telling us that tomorrow is the day a couple of hours ago. Good though to have confirmation from an independent source as well.
 
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