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So how does the "pre-order" stuff work tax wise? I'm pretty sure your credit card is not billed until it ships.

I'm pretty confident I won't have an 8 core and D700 at my door till late Jan early Feb.
 
We get it, you don't like it - even so much as to add it to your signature!

Now, maybe go somewhere else on the forum and find something to be positive about? :)
 
So how does the "pre-order" stuff work tax wise? I'm pretty sure your credit card is not billed until it ships.

I´m pretty sure you can´t order without a credit card payment and they will happily take your money and ship whenever. :apple:

I'm pretty confident I won't have an 8 core and D700 at my door till late Jan early Feb.

I´m pretty confident I´ll get mine late March - mid April. :apple:
 
I believe that they will be shipping BTO options in December too. No reason they won't have the stock models at retail stores tomorrow. When the 2010 Mac Pros launched, the BTO shipped in the same week. Granted they had the machining for the cases and components ready to go, based on the factory assembly video they posted, it looks the same here.

I don't think BTO will have to wait long, 3 weeks tops.
 
damn that sucks .. a desktop card barely more powerful than a mobile:(

To be fair, the GTX 780M might have 'M' in its name, but it has a TDP of 122W. Yeah, it gets stuffed into some 8 or 9 pound Wintel gaming notebooks, but it's not exactly a normal mobile part. It mostly has an 'M' in its name simply because it's designed to be soldered to motherboards by OEMs rather than placed on cards by GPU vendors. It's performance competitive with $200-$300 desktop parts.
 
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I´m pretty sure you can´t order without a credit card payment and they will happily take your money and ship whenever. :apple:

That is called postal order mail fraud. Apple isn't going to do that. There is a legal limit to how far in advance can charge before ship. I think the credit card companies also deeply frown on this practice also. (way to many folks who cancel later but now have to get "refunds" because the charge had percolated through the systems of payments. )
 
Tomorrow, for orders.. If, according to dear Tim, they just started building them, then delivery in May...

I doubt Tim literally means they just started the line up today. :)

This isn't exactly the iPhone. Based on the only Mac Pro sales volume numbers I've ever seen reported (50K/quarter), Apple sells ~1/7 as many Mac Pros in a quarter as they sell iPhones in one day. There probably isn't a need to stockpile units in preparation for launch to any huge extent here. Volumes are so low (50K/quarter is less than 600 units per day) that it's probably hard not to overbuild production capacity.

The CPU/GPU models in these machines have also been generally available for a while. Unless they run into some specific manufacturing problem with some of their custom parts I wouldn't expect huge wait times or availability problems.
 
I doubt Tim literally means they just started the line up today. :)

Yeah. I believe he meant they've just added the Austin factory to the ones that have already been busily churning out nMPs. And I believe Mac Rumors is making a big assumption when they labeled that image as the production line in Austin. I think it's just a stock production photo, not necessarily Austin--I might even have seen that very image before.

ETA: I am wrong; it's only being assembled in Austin. My bad.
 
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I doubt Tim literally means they just started the line up today. :)

The CPU/GPU models in these machines have also been generally available for a while. Unless they run into some specific manufacturing problem with some of their custom parts I wouldn't expect huge wait times or availability problems.

I'm pretty sure availability is exactly why we had to wait till Dec 19th to even just pre-order the thing.

I haven't so far seen any vendor selling the 1680 (8-core), though I saw boxx has some crazy e5 12 core, 32 gb laptop yesterday - I'm sure its special order.

And I've only seen a very small number of boxx systems with TB or TB2.

Throw in the fact the D300, D500, and D700 are probably apple exclusives.

I could not find a Samsung 840 pro series 1TB SSD anywhere online the other day.

I would say unless you buy the stock config you will be waiting till Valentines day for receipt.
 
Yeah. I believe he meant they've just added the Austin factory to the ones that have already been busily churning out nMPs. And I believe Mac Rumors is making a big assumption when they labeled that image as the production line in Austin. I think it's just a stock production photo, not necessarily Austin--I might even have seen that very image before.

Wasn't that the ONLY production line for these?
 
Yeah. I believe he meant they've just added the Austin factory to the ones that have already been busily churning out nMPs. And I believe Mac Rumors is making a big assumption when they labeled that image as the production line in Austin.

Isn't Austin the only Mac Pro production facility? AFAIK, it is not being made anywhere else.
 
So, back to the point, does this mean they only actually started production just this week? If so.. delivery in quantities in.. April?
 
I am seriously tempted to buy a stock 6 core version tomorrow but just not sure if d500s will be good enough

I have decided to wait for some benchmarks to see whether the d700 upgrade will be worth it.

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So, back to the point, does this mean they only actually started production just this week? If so.. delivery in quantities in.. April?

No, it does not mean that at all. Why would you think that? Maybe the production line video was staged? Seriously though.... Seriously.
 
I have decided to wait for some benchmarks to see whether the d700 upgrade will be worth it.

yea i was hoping reviews and benchmarks would be out already. I don't see how the d700s will not be much better then the d500s. Memory I will upgrade later on down the road .. SSD wise .. i only use like 60gb .. so I could use the 256 and I have my external storage and hopefully owc releases SSD upgrades down the road
 
No, it does not mean that at all. Why would you think that? Maybe the production line video were staged? Seriously though.... Seriously.

Well, the Tim said.. "We have begun manufacturing the Mac Pro in Austin."

Does that mean this week? Kinda hard to tell there...
 
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