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There's no reason for a change of form factor. The tube is great. They don't have to reduce the volume or the size, they don't have to reduce the amount of ports since they are not making it any smaller. It'll come with TB3, updated GPU's CPU's SSD's and Memory. Just like we expect it to be. Phil said this is the form factor for the next 10 years.
 
There's no reason for a change of form factor. The tube is great. They don't have to reduce the volume or the size, they don't have to reduce the amount of ports since they are not making it any smaller. It'll come with TB3, updated GPU's CPU's SSD's and Memory. Just like we expect it to be. Phil said this is the form factor for the next 10 years.

If they'd given in to a eGPU solution there probably wouldn't be so many complaints about the Mac Pro, that's the only glaring weakness.
 
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Makes sense since it's better for business.
It's actually worse for business, as clearly indicated by the fact that their income overall, and their Mac income specifically, has gone down lately. iOS devices and Macs don't exist in isolation from each other.

--Eric
 
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It's actually worse for business, as clearly indicated by the fact that their income overall, and their Mac income specifically, has gone down lately. iOS devices and Macs don't exist in isolation from each other.

--Eric

The problem is Tim Cook is running the company on a profit margin. Now none of us will know what's deep down in his heart, but the way he has managed to run it in the last few years is exactly what Microsoft was doing in terms of business -- profit margins were a high priority. Now of course, Microsoft made terrible products, while Apple is still making decent products right now.

Time Cook has turned the sails in a different direction, which I think is pretty terrible. Things like Macs don't need to keep Apple afloat, but they need to cater to that audience for a good reason.

Steve Jobs was the kind of person to drop truth bombs and jolt the system and fire people on the spot for screwing up. There was a reason he did this. I'm not saying it's good or bad, but someone needs to do that.
 
There's no reason for a change of form factor. The tube is great. They don't have to reduce the volume or the size, they don't have to reduce the amount of ports since they are not making it any smaller. It'll come with TB3, updated GPU's CPU's SSD's and Memory. Just like we expect it to be. Phil said this is the form factor for the next 10 years.
Might be an imac pro...
 
Heard it´s coming with a new keyboard as well..
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The problem is Tim Cook is running the company on a profit margin. Now none of us will know what's deep down in his heart, but the way he has managed to run it in the last few years is exactly what Microsoft was doing in terms of business -- profit margins were a high priority. Now of course, Microsoft made terrible products, while Apple is still making decent products right now.

Time Cook has turned the sails in a different direction, which I think is pretty terrible. Things like Macs don't need to keep Apple afloat, but they need to cater to that audience for a good reason.

Steve Jobs was the kind of person to drop truth bombs and jolt the system and fire people on the spot for screwing up. There was a reason he did this. I'm not saying it's good or bad, but someone needs to do that.

Tim Cook, bless his social warrior soul, is one part John Sculley, one part Steve Ballmer and one part Marissa Mayer.
https://steveblank.com/2016/10/24/w...allmer-and-why-he-still-has-his-job-at-apple/

In a few years Tim will retire with a $100 million magic parachute and several billion in Apple stock.
One can only hope his replacement will be as good for Apple and it's customers as Microsoft's has
been post Monkey Boy.

I wonder if this chap would be interested in reinvigorating a slumbering dinosaur?

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I wish. If Apple managed to put the Mac Pro internals into an iMac case and keep the fan noise to a minimum, I would never buy a Mac Pro again.

I wonder what is stopping apple going the imac pro route ? You can already fit dual desktop class pascal gpus in laptops.
 
Satya Nadella, CEO of Microsoft.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/why-microsoft-most-interesting-company-tech-moment-1588791

Can you imagine Monkey Boy or the Timinator green lighting this?
that thing looks pretty freaking awesome for freehand drawing/painting stuff.

other than that though, where's the advantage? notice the CAD drawings in the commercials aren't being created.. instead, they're being marked up on, noted, highlighted, etc.. guarantee the actual CAD work was done on a more traditional interface.

i'm not saying this computer isn't potentially leading into paradigm shifts for creative content creations, just that it's certainly not there right now as far as i can gather unless we're strictly talking painting/drawing.
 
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Satya Nadella, CEO of Microsoft.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/why-microsoft-most-interesting-company-tech-moment-1588791

Can you imagine Monkey Boy or the Timinator green lighting this?


Tim is gonna f it up if he ever decided to go to MS ways. Tim isn't good enough to get to MS level at the moment.
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that thing looks pretty freaking awesome for freehand drawing/painting stuff.

other than that though, where's the advantage? notice the CAD drawings in the commercials aren't being created.. instead, they're being marked up on, noted, highlighted, etc.. guarantee the actual CAD work was done on a more traditional interface.

i'm not saying this computer isn't potentially leading into paradigm shifts for creative content creations, just that it's certainly not there right now as far as i can gather unless we're strictly talking painting/drawing.
Just imagine if it included CAD...
 
that thing looks pretty freaking awesome for freehand drawing/painting stuff.

other than that though, where's the advantage? notice the CAD drawings in the commercials aren't being created.. instead, they're being marked up on, noted, highlighted, etc.. guarantee the actual CAD work was done on a more traditional interface.

i'm not saying this computer isn't potentially leading into paradigm shifts for creative content creations, just that it's certainly not there right now as far as i can gather unless we're strictly talking painting/drawing.

Yeah, painting, drawing, Photoshop, video editing and 3D
are the big disciplines that the Surface Studio will revolutionize.
All of Creative Cloud working with the Dial will be big, too.
Later I imagine there will probably be a 21" consumer oriented version for around $2K.
Imagine what game devs would be able to do with a Surface and Dial interface.
 
Just imagine if it included CAD...
the problem is CAD applications have a thousand commands, most of which are fairly common in usage.. quite possibly the genre of applications demanding the most variety in input than any other..

it also require numerical input (length/angles/etc) as well as text input (various notations etc)..

a CAD app on that thing would have to be entirely dumbed down in functionality in order to make much use of the limited input options.

we're not going to see advancements in CAD UI until we see us leaving 2 dimensional inputs/outputs.. we might see something different but nothing faster.. 2D i/o are all of the following -- pencils, touch screens, keyboards, trackpads, mice, lcd flat panels, dials.. etc.
you can only move X or Y in all of those.. multi faceted applications are going to require a third Z axis functionality in order to get the amount of controls necessary into seemingly simple interfaces.
 
the problem is CAD applications have a thousand commands, most of which are fairly common in usage.. quite possibly the genre of applications demanding the most variety in input than any other..

it also require numerical input (length/angles/etc) as well as text input (various notations etc)..

a CAD app on that thing would have to be entirely dumbed down in functionality in order to make much use of the limited input options.

we're not going to see advancements in CAD UI until we see us leaving 2 dimensional inputs/outputs.. we might see something different but nothing faster.. 2D i/o are all of the following -- pencils, touch screens, keyboards, trackpads, mice, lcd flat panels, dials.. etc.
you can only move X or Y in all of those.. multi faceted applications are going to require a third Z axis functionality in order to get the amount of controls necessary into seemingly simple interfaces.
So, another word: you need 3d, right?
 
So, another word: you need 3d, right?
i think some sort of holographic 3D projection of a model which allowed a user to manipulate it in real 3D space would be incredible..
i'm not sure if it's possible or even practical but at this point in time/imagination, it seems pretty helpful or at least very cool to look at.

really though, with CAD, the software has to be smarter in order for us to speed up.. artificial intelligence of some sort in which the software can learn what we need instead of us needing to explicitly command the software in the most minute of steps/details.

for instance, if i want to model a 3' diameter sphere with the top 3rd cut off, i will need to use about 10 commands and 20 mouse clicks to get there..

whereas what i really want is "yo! draw me a 3' diameter sphere and cut off the top third"... i want the computer to be able to better understand me so i can communicate with it in a much faster way.

(but this isn't really a point against the surface studio or anything like that.. i believe people are working on really changing the way we interact with computer.. it's just that the tech is not ready at this point in time and we're not going to really see any radically different/improved ways of working until such time.. we will see some further advancements of past paradigms such as what we're seeing with microsoft's latest offering)
 
i think some sort of holographic 3D projection of a model which allowed a user to manipulate it in real 3D space would be incredible..
i'm not sure if it's possible or even practical but at this point in time/imagination, it seems pretty helpful or at least very cool to look at.

really though, with CAD, the software has to be smarter in order for us to speed up.. artificial intelligence of some sort in which the software can learn what we need instead of us needing to explicitly command the software in the most minute of steps/details.

for instance, if i want to model a 3' diameter sphere with the top 3rd cut off, i will need to use about 10 commands and 20 mouse clicks to get there..

whereas what i really want is "yo! draw me a 3' diameter sphere and cut off the top third"... i want the computer to be able to better understand me so i can communicate with it in a much faster way.

(but this isn't really a point against the surface studio or anything like that.. i believe people are working on really changing the way we interact with computer.. it's just that the tech is not ready at this point in time and we're not going to really see any radically different/improved ways of working until such time.. we will see some further advancements of past paradigms such as what we're seeing with microsoft's latest offering)

at about 4:10, a phone can recreate 3d.

But yeah...you would be seeking "siri-like" to get your work flowing.
I don't know if Apple would be mentioned in this category.

For video editor, it would be amazing...that dial...omg....lol. so cool.
I have to say: I believe the philosophy of each tech company would likely to be the indicator of their future.
 
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