Dont expect M3 to be on 3nm if they are coming this spring...
M3 can be based on the A16 "4nm" or indeed on the new 3nm architecture
M3 can be based on the A16 "4nm" or indeed on the new 3nm architecture
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New MacBook Airs and 13-Inch MacBook Pro Will Reportedly Feature M3 Chip
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Will Apple please offer the 13” MBP without the Touch Bar finally?
for the sake of keeping the macbook pro's "starting at..." price low! duhThe touch bar lives...
It is entirely possible that Apple ordered the M2 manufactured using the 3nm process (M2.5?). That would yield enough performance and efficiency improvements to justify using it in the MacBook Air 15”. This would allow Apple to introduce the M3, with its new architecture, at WWDC and release products using it in Fall 2023.
But if M3 has, say, 20% better IPC than M2, then that architectural improvement, plus 20% for 3 nm, could give us 1.2*1.2 ≈ 1.4 x performance boost over M2/N4P. Not saying it will be that high, just that M3/N3E would offer both architectural and process improvments over M2/N4P.
Well I just spent a while looking on eBay and FB marketplace for a second hand Studio with an M1 Max or Ultra. Still great value if you want more than 16 GB RAM and minimum Mini specs at the right second price had c.f. a M2 mini even with a 10% off student discount.
it depends on what 3nm architecture Apple goes for the laptops...from what i remember there are 3...boost in performance, boost in efficiency and some performance and something just for desktop POV
So being a laptop i think Apple will go for the middle ground. Again this only applies for the 3nm...M3 can be based on the A16
So the M2 SoCs will have a very short life(span). It's okayish, I guess.
Yes any M series chip does feel overkill, however, apple use its processor in part of its marketing as though the chip makes a huge difference… them releasing it with M3 when (if M3 comes out this month or next) means that literally 2 months after launch M4 would be out instantly making their new iPad Pro dated.
Let’s be honest the general consumer who are the target market for their standard M series chips really won’t get excited about it having M3, the reason M2 devices aren’t selling well is because most people who wanted a MacBook Air have bought the M1 version, and the Mac mini/MBP m2 variants have literally just been launched less than a month ago.
That really means nothing at the moment with all the supply chain issues.
they could easily sit on those chips and are literally producing them now in a bid to avoid issues with production later, shipping delays has seriously hit Apple over the past 12 months.
Yeah and I fully agree but then if no iPad Air is launching this year either (which is what is rumoured) what will that have next… surely their not going to release an M2 device after already announcing M3… the iPad Air is due a refresh within the next 6-8 months.
Yes, I'm aware of that. If you take a look at the post to which I was responding, you'll see were discussing performance improvement at the same power consumption.
Too soon. M1 to M2 took 18 months with same 5nm process. M3 is using new 3nm process. No baseline to how fast this switch to will occur, or its yielding enough to launch products. Could also set a precedent of why buy now for Apple. Just wait.
I never realised the M2s were so slow and awful that people didn't want them. They seemed to be all the rage just a few months ago.
You fickle lot.
You fickle lot.
It could certainly happen. And “old” is a relative term. As long as it’s still useful then the small performance difference between old and new is largely irrelevant.
People buy “old” second hand cars because they’re perfectly suitable for their needs. People buy second hand electronics because they’re sufficient for their needs. Contemporary new computers still use “old” 10th and 11th generation Intel chips because it’s good enough for the device’s expected usage.
”Old” doesn't automatically mean obsolete. Something is obsolete only when it’s no longer viable for the function it was intended for.
M3 does not automatically make M2 or even M1 obsolete. It simply offers an overall, but not drastic, performance advantage.
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All I want is 2+ external displays, then it is an instabuy. if not well, I probably wait another few years, not going to pay 700+ extra for a bulkier even more powerful laptop I don't need.
They didn’t begin mass production. Production began, it does take some time for yield rate to reach expectation.
General production began, It takes months to reach yield rates suitable for mass production.
+ 1 re removing the ugly notch. At the same time, please bring back the brilliant wedge shape from the M1 MacBook Air, which is ergonomically far superior to the clunky M2 MacBook Air.
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