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arctic

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Jun 18, 2008
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True. TB will be standard across the board on all Macs. There's a reason why all Apple Displays support them. TB on every MBA is a no brainer.
 

fitshaced

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Jul 2, 2011
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If Lion is app store download only, why is there a 'We'll be back soon' message in the Apple site if there isnt a hardware change?
 

gguerini

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Jun 28, 2007
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I just don't understand why Apple insist on 2GB only. Many people are saying that 2GB is not enough for Lion especially in combination with the Intel HD3000. Seriously.. it's very disappointing to buy a brand new and expensive computer in the second half of 2011 that comes with only 2GB. You can buy 8GB on Amazon for only $50. You can also find smartphones that come with 1GB already.. soon they will surpass the performance of our expensive toys. :mad:
 

Davidkoh

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Aug 2, 2008
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I just don't understand why Apple insist on 2GB only. Many people are saying that 2GB is not enough for Lion especially in combination with the Intel HD3000. Seriously.. it's very disappointing to buy a brand new and expensive computer in the second half of 2011 that comes with only 2GB. You can buy 8GB on Amazon for only $50. You can also find smartphones that come with 1GB already.. soon they will surpass the performance of our expensive toys. :mad:

Upgrade the ram then? 2 GB will most likely be for the cheapest entry level model.
 

OSMac

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Jun 14, 2010
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If Lion is app store download only, why is there a 'We'll be back soon' message in the Apple site if there isnt a hardware change?

Apple loves to be dramatic and get all the attention they can.
If your a stock holder you'll love it too :)

I think the Airs will be later, keep the focus on one thing today.

Many people will buy Lion today who would not if they were buying a new Air with it installed.

But who knows after yesterdays record profits they may just throw them all up for sale at once!
 

Roman2K~

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Mar 11, 2011
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This article mentions base speeds (1.6, 1.7, 1.8 GHz) from which we can deduce actual processor models (the earlier rumors were spot on):
(Spec comparison)

The maximum Turbo clocks (in bold) are what matters here, I think they should have been emphasized in the article. Nowadays, base speeds are pretty much meaningless with SpeedStep and Turbo Boost.
 
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MRU

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Aug 23, 2005
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4GB ram 'should' be standard - more so than any other aspect on this refresh, so it will be disappointing if 2GB ram has been maintained on the base model given every other mac seems to come with 4GB as standard including the mini (all bar the white macbook which if rumors are ever accurate will be phased out anyway).


I'm ready to order a new 11" - however I may go for 13" if the 11" base only has 2GB as I would certainly be upgrading both it and the SSD to 128 anyway.
 

clyde2801

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4GB ram 'should' be standard - more so than any other aspect on this refresh, so it will be disappointing if 2GB ram has been maintained on the base model given every other mac seems to come with 4GB as standard including the mini (all bar the white macbook which if rumors are ever accurate will be phased out anyway).


I'm ready to order a new 11" - however I may go for 13" if the 11" base only has 2GB as I would certainly be upgrading both it and the SSD to 128 anyway.

Well, that's showing 'em! Take THAT, greedy corporate types!




Wait, you want to take more?
 

da3dl3us

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Jul 27, 2010
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This article mentions base speeds (1.6, 1.7, 1.8 GHz) from which we can deduce actual processor models (the earlier rumors were spot on):
(Spec comparison)

The maximum Turbo clocks (in bold) are what matters here, I think they should have been emphasized in the article. Nowadays, base speeds are pretty much meaningless with SpeedStep and Turbo Boost.

For the 13'', how much of a difference will that 0.1 GHz make in the Ultimate version?
 

OSMac

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Jun 14, 2010
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This article mentions base speeds (1.6, 1.7, 1.8 GHz) from which we can deduce actual processor models (the earlier rumors were spot on):
(Spec comparison)

The maximum Turbo clocks (in bold) are what matters here, I think they should have been emphasized in the article. Nowadays, base speeds are pretty much meaningless with SpeedStep and Turbo Boost.

Nice summary, be interesting if both 11 and 13 run the same cpus,
will the 11 now run hotter and louder?
 

mmendoza27

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Oct 18, 2007
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Nice summary, be interesting if both 11 and 13 run the same cpus,
will the 11 now run hotter and louder?

The 11" is going to have the 1.6 Core i5 standard. There's no way it'll run the Core i7 1.6, which is actually priced a little higher than the Core i7 1.7.
 

jwb81

macrumors newbie
Jul 20, 2011
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I was really hoping for the option of 8 GBs of ram. I am willing to pay for it! Come on, Apple, take my money.

Amen. Actually making me question if I can do this. It would cost virtually no money and makes such a difference!
 

arctic

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Jun 18, 2008
632
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The 11" is going to have the 1.6 Core i5 standard. There's no way it'll run the Core i7 1.6, which is actually priced a little higher than the Core i7 1.7.

I think so too. And the 11" Ultimate to have the BTO of 1.7 while the bigger brother 13" Ultimate having the 1.8 BTO.
 

arctic

macrumors 6502a
Jun 18, 2008
632
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Amen. Actually making me question if I can do this. It would cost virtually no money and makes such a difference!

Just guessing. 8gb RAM might be only on the 13" Ultimate BTO since the 13" might be the models that will get the 4gb standard.
 

Heck Hummer

macrumors newbie
Jul 20, 2011
1
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If the rumored specs on the standard configurations of the 13" models are true, and the prices to not change, then that means we'd be paying $300 for 128gb of storage. That's $2.34 per gig. Seems pretty high considering that flash storage prices have dropped to almost half this level already. In 6 months this will seem like outright robbery.
 

mmendoza27

macrumors 6502
Oct 18, 2007
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Also, they aren't completely up but go to http://www.apple.com/macbookair

Basically the things we had an idea about.

[EDIT]: The features page and some of the other pages are going through updates. They still talk about the Nvidia 320M etc so wait a little bit.
 
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