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New MBP—and Everything Else—is Threatening My Apple Purchasing Habits
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Given the amount of typos, I didn't spend nearly enough time on it
Thanks for reading!I actually agree with the OP.
2016 was going to be my big upgrade-year. I looked forward to the iPhone 7 as well as the new lineup of MacBooks. Sold my late-2013 rMBP in May in anticipation of the new laptops and set money aside.
Well, the iPhone 7 turned out to be a disappointment, still sporting the same design and (fairly) low resolution screen as my iPhone 6 from two years ago. Sure, the camera is better (a lot better on the plus model, but I cannot deal with its size) but not enough to warrant an upgrade. Not to mention "courage", which seriously put me off.
The MBP 2016 has to be one of the worst received Apple products of the last decade.
Well, plenty of money in my pockets at least.
I hope 2017 will be the year when Apple actually starts listening to what their consumers want, rather than just having courage enough to decide for them.
2016 was going to be my big upgrade-year. I looked forward to the iPhone 7 as well as the new lineup of MacBooks. Sold my late-2013 rMBP in May in anticipation of the new laptops and set money aside.
Well, the iPhone 7 turned out to be a disappointment, still sporting the same design and (fairly) low resolution screen as my iPhone 6 from two years ago. Sure, the camera is better (a lot better on the plus model, but I cannot deal with its size) but not enough to warrant an upgrade. Not to mention "courage", which seriously put me off.
The MBP 2016 has to be one of the worst received Apple products of the last decade.
Well, plenty of money in my pockets at least.
I hope 2017 will be the year when Apple actually starts listening to what their consumers want, rather than just having courage enough to decide for them.
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Like yourself I have had a rMB for over 18 months and through charging with dongles is problematic when you have multiple devices
I still understand that some more simple straight through cables with differing heads have problems. So much so that someone on Amazon is on a crusade to stop the sale of certain brands or clones etc.
Probably the very ones many here say USB-C is no problem get a $5 cable and stop moaning, not good advice IMO
Even the old habits of swapping and exchanging USB cables between devices is not so simple there are already several cases where OEM USB-C cables are only suitable for their own products and should not be used on others due to potential fire risks.
Strangely I noticed the Apple triple port dongle runs a lot warmer than the Samsung one and I would also like to try the Dell one Lisa Grade often shows in her reviews
It will improve eventually but probably like yourself I already have to carry multiple dongles for different products along with adapters and varying cables. My once single cable bag for my Tumi backpack now has a sister for USB-C. (I find the little free flight goodies bag are excellent for this, with or without the socks
Samsung USB C adaptor is of better quality functionally & physically, from my experience has less issue, and runs cooler. I find at times I need to plugin Apple`s digital multi-port in a set sequence if some other dongle are in the chain, typically USB to ethernet or they may, or may not work as intended, naturally the more you have daisy changed, the greater the chance of issue.
Funny I do the same, as some of the airline goody bags are very handy. Theses days I have everything in pouches as this helps getting though security with less pain, literally two of everything adds up to a lot of electronics & wires
Actively trying to reduce the number of adaptors, cable etc. not add to it. In many respects the dongle situation is a solution to a problem that never needed to exist, had common sense been applied. Then again it`s just a function of $$$$ for Apple and that today is "all" Apple cares about...Q-6
Ha, as I suspected.
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Not even close to the actual facts of this and other discussions here. But facts matter little in the emotional responses to Apple (or anything else).
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Which has very little to do with whether it's a worthy upgrade, of course.
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You make my point. Perfectly reasonable explanations about maximized performance have been pointed out to you, but you ignore them in favor of emotional claims like that.
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This is such a stereotypical form of subtle abuse and propagates the I'll feeling that that many are in denial about
To accuse someone of an emotional response with the underlining derogatory implication opposed to simply accepting someone's opinion etc
Maybe your unaware or stating your opinion or equally being emotional
but the latter is not necessary and too easy to use and inflameSubtle abuse? It's disagreement, not abuse, and it's not subtle. And it's based on fact, not mere opinion. I'll grant you that it's inflammatory in the sense that it can inflame people. If you read this discussion and others here, you'll see that almost everyone is sensitive to and inflamed by any remarks they may be able to take offense to. And they seem unaware that they do the same. For example, someone just accused me of abuse and emotionalism. People who complain of being "shut down" don't mind calling those they disagree with fanboys or the like. And so it goes. People generally see better the mote in the eye of the other.
My purchasing habits haven't changed such that I would stop buying Apple products, but I certainly don't upgrade as often, mainly because the technology upgrades are so minimal.
I have a 15", 16G MBP, mid-2014 model. When the 2015 came out, it wasn't worth the upgrade so I decided to wait for the next model.
Now we have this 2016 model and the differences are just not enough for me to justify spending $3K on it. It really doesn't offer anything that I feel takes my machine to the next level of Apple ownership. I will wait (again) for the next one.
If Apple wants me to buy with the frequency I have in the past, they need to throw out bigger bones with each new model.
I have a 15", 16G MBP, mid-2014 model. When the 2015 came out, it wasn't worth the upgrade so I decided to wait for the next model.
Now we have this 2016 model and the differences are just not enough for me to justify spending $3K on it. It really doesn't offer anything that I feel takes my machine to the next level of Apple ownership. I will wait (again) for the next one.
If Apple wants me to buy with the frequency I have in the past, they need to throw out bigger bones with each new model.
The MBPs are designed and built so that upgrading shouldn't be necessary or all that desirable every year, or even every couple years. They should perform well for years to come. What makes an upgrade a good one, I think, is that it keeps up with the technology to a reasonable degree and offers some significant improvements, but normally they won't be important enough to warrant replacing a recent model for most people, who find these things costly.
Agreed but there is a general technology plateau being reached which is probably why 2 in 1's touch etc gain more attention. Like the surface studio not sure what I would do with one and of questionable value but just dam cool
Only dGPU seem to have a larger increase in specs between revisions so we are left with better implantation of interfaces, it's no wonder we are discussing subjective trivia in most threads
Very few companies actually invent and it's equally hard to develop something inspirational. Add our own immunities to surprise of new upgraded models leaves little to look forward too in some respects. We are in need of some WOW factor
The hard part is, every little bit of invention or upgrade in the past half-century has been an attempt to make computers easier to use.Very few companies actually invent and it's equally hard to develop something inspirational. Add our own immunities to surprise of new upgraded models leaves little to look forward too in some respects. We are in need of some WOW factor
We stepped away from punch cards and started using keyboard terminals. The GUI and mouse came along (at the time, Jobs said it was as natural a pointing device as one's finger -- to paraphrase, "If I want tell you there's a stain on your shirt, I don't say that it's four inches down from you collar and three inches to the left of center -- I just point to it.") and are still the main method for interacting with most computers. Touchscreens became the norm when they were made to be responsive enough to use bare fingertips.
So, yeah -- what's next? What can make computers easier to use than they are now? Not flashier, but easier?
WOW does not have to be flashier
, easier to use ? yes if your bundling accessibility under that umbrella ie moving from a computer room full of IBM360's to a phone/tablet/laptopIf we knew what's next, we would not be writing here LOL
I would hazard a guess with MS more involved with VR, Face recognition, Gaming, Voice control, touch, single OS across all platforms and willingness to perform major OS overalls they stand a good chance than most outside of neural/wearable development and rogue inventions
I always thought it was a shame Google Glass never came to the masses, forget touch bars what about look bars
Lenovo as it seems to produce quite a few models turns up with some interesting devices like the Yoga Book, what they learn from these may help us all in the future
Maybe we need new hardware like flexible/folding screens to enable the next easier interface
Perhaps Apple think its more likely from IOS devices than MAC's they certainly have more eggs in that basket
All I know is touch/pen 2 in 1's seem closer to the future than clamshells IMO but they may equally be short lived if something WOW comes out
Only dGPU seem to have a larger increase in specs between revisions so we are left with better implantation of interfaces, it's no wonder we are discussing subjective trivia in most threads
Very few companies actually invent and it's equally hard to develop something inspirational. Add our own immunities to surprise of new upgraded models leaves little to look forward too in some respects. We are in need of some WOW factor
Apple is pretty much dependent on the processors that they can functionally put in their laptops. They got a lot of grief for not putting them in their current MBP, except that Intel wasn't shipping them last fall. If you look at Kaby its not a significant increase in CPU speed and really only increases a small number of speed in only RAW video input.
GPU's that give big power, like in the +2 teraflop range are big in size and draw huge power. So Apple needs to do something. What they have done is shake things up for the future by sacrificing the present. And so, for except a small number of us, a late 2011 with a CPU in the single/multi of 4100/13,000 bench mark is plenty fast, and an integral GPU that is about an 1100 benchmark works.
Apple can't produce chips out of the air that are not there. And Apple does have to do upgrades. If you look realistically at how their upgrades have gone, they would have had to go back to a big clunky looking machine about the size of an old 1st generation MBP to fit a serious GPU upgrade in it. And there is no available CPU without major changes(like when we went from Motorola to PowerPC and from PowerPC to Intel) currently available. I can understand why Apple was not willing to get fat again, and why even staying at the same width wouldn't dramatically increase GPU power.
In many ways Apple has painted themselves into a corner, and as long as we liked the corner, it was great. But now we want them to wave a magic wand. There are no silver bullets here.
Perhaps that's where it lies...
I always think about... if i didn't my room would be filled up from floor to ceiling with Apple gizmos. but my habits have gone downhill as well. Not enough to move to Windows, but its still there hovering overhead "just in case" those moments happen from Apple.
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